Bryan Johnson: Kernel Brain-Computer Interfaces | Lex Fridman Podcast #186

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May 24, 2021

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2h 31m

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Lex Fridman Podcast

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Bryan Johnson is the founder and CEO of Kernel, OS Fund, and previously Braintree. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:

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EPISODE LINKS: Bryan's Twitter: https://twitter.com/bryan_johnson Bryan's Website: https://www.bryanjohnson.co/ Kernel's Twitter: https://twitter.com/KernelCo Kernel's Website: https://www.kernel.com/ PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ Full episodes playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrAXtmErZgOdP_8GztsuKi9nrraNbKKp4 Clips playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrAXtmErZgOeciFP3CBCIEElOJeitOr41 OUTLINE: 0:00 - Introduction 1:13 - Kernel Flow demo 10:25 - The future of brain-computer interfaces 43:54 - Existential risk 49:33 - Overcoming depression 1:04:52 - Zeroth principles thinking 1:13:05 - Engineering consciousness 1:19:19 - Privacy 1:23:48 - Neuralink 1:33:27 - Braintree and Venmo 1:49:10 - Eating one meal a day 1:55:22 - Sleep 2:15:04 - Climbing Mount Kilimanjaro 2:22:02 - Advice for young people 2:26:38 - Meaning of life SOCIAL:

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• Lex Fridman

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• Bryan Johnson

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🧾 EPISODE SUMMARY

In this episode of Lex Fridman Podcast, featuring Lex Fridman and Bryan Johnson, Bryan Johnson: Kernel Brain-Computer Interfaces | Lex Fridman Podcast #186 explores bryan Johnson and Lex Fridman Explore Data-Driven Futures of Mind Bryan Johnson, founder of Kernel and previously Braintree/Venmo, joins Lex Fridman to demonstrate and discuss non-invasive brain-computer interfaces using Kernel’s Flow device. They explore how high-bandwidth brain measurement could transform personal health, mental health, cognition, and large-scale scientific understanding of the mind. Johnson contrasts Kernel’s non-invasive approach with invasive efforts like Neuralink, emphasizing building an ecosystem and “killer apps” through massive data collection and machine learning rather than intuition. The conversation also dives into ethics, privacy, AI, zeroth-principle thinking, nutrition, sleep, depression, psychedelics, and Johnson’s personal journey through failure, wealth, and reinvention.

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