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Gavin Miller: Adobe Research | Lex Fridman Podcast #23

Gavin Miller is the Head of Adobe Research. Adobe have empowered artists, designers, and creative minds from all professions working in the digital medium for over 30 years with software such as Photoshop, Illustrator, Premiere, After Effects, InDesign, Audition that work with images, video, and audio. Adobe Research is working to define the future evolution of these products in a way that makes the life of creatives easier, automates the tedious tasks, and gives more & more time to operate in the idea space instead of pixel space. This is where the cutting-edge deep learning methods of the past decade can shine more than perhaps any other application. Gavin is the embodiment of combing tech and creativity. Outside of Adobe Research, he writes poetry & builds robots. Thank you for listening ❤ Check out our sponsors: https://lexfridman.com/sponsors/ep23-sb See below for timestamps, and to give feedback, submit questions, contact Lex, etc. *CONTACT LEX:* *Feedback* - give feedback to Lex: https://lexfridman.com/survey *AMA* - submit questions, videos or call-in: https://lexfridman.com/ama *Hiring* - join our team: https://lexfridman.com/hiring *Other* - other ways to get in touch: https://lexfridman.com/contact *OUTLINE:* 0:00 - Introduction 1:11 - Poetry & crossover to creative work 6:35 - Turning one medium into another 7:45 - Creative process in both the space pixels and ideas 10:00 - Improving workflow in Adobe tools with AI 14:31 - Taking ideas from prototype to product 16:22 - Learning how to use Adobe tools 21:13 - Applications of deep learning 28:46 - Improving user experience from data 34:30 - Augmented reality and virtual reality 39:57 - Resistance to change 43:40 - Poem - Today I Left My Phone at Home 44:17 - Illusion of beauty in digital space 49:17 - Secret to a thriving research lab 55:27 - Future ideas in Adobe Research 58:13 - Robotics and animation in the physical world 1:08:01 - Poem - Cast My Ashes Wide and Far *PODCAST LINKS:* - Podcast Website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast - Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr - Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 - RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ - Podcast Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrAXtmErZgOdP_8GztsuKi9nrraNbKKp4 - Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/lexclips *SOCIAL LINKS:* - X: https://x.com/lexfridman - Instagram: https://instagram.com/lexfridman - TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://facebook.com/lexfridman - Patreon: https://patreon.com/lexfridman - Telegram: https://t.me/lexfridman - Reddit: https://reddit.com/r/lexfridman

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Jun 10, 20191h 9mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Adobe Research Chief Explores AI’s Future in Creativity and Robots

  1. Gavin Miller, head of Adobe Research, discusses how AI is transforming creative tools to automate tedious tasks while preserving and expanding human creativity. He explains concrete projects in image editing, search, and style transfer, and how Adobe balances power-user control with new, assistive interfaces. Miller also talks about data, privacy, and learning from user workflows, plus his parallel life as a poet and roboticist using biomimetic robots to explore intelligence and personality. The conversation ranges from deep technical ideas like GANs and 3D understanding to philosophical questions about altered reality, authenticity, and the future of human–machine collaboration.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

AI will increasingly handle tedious production work so humans can focus on ideas.

Adobe’s goal is to automate low-level tasks like selections, background removal, aspect-ratio variants, and layout adjustments, freeing creatives to spend more time on story, style, and concept rather than manual pixel work.

Smart defaults and assistive tools can make complex software more accessible without sacrificing expert control.

Features like AI-driven ‘auto’ settings, one-click object selection, and suggestion systems based on similar user workflows aim to speed up beginners while still allowing professionals to refine results to 100% quality.

Understanding real workflows and online tutorials is key to building better creative assistants.

Adobe Research analyzes sequences of user actions and thousands of tutorial videos to infer common next steps, with the ambition to surface context-aware suggestions or mini-lessons directly inside tools instead of relying on manual search.

Modern image tools are evolving from single operations to full workflow macros powered by AI.

Examples like Sky Replace and Concept Canvas bundle selection, search, compositing, color matching, and layout into near-instant compound actions, enabling rapid exploration of multiple high-quality design alternatives.

Generative models bring ‘visual common sense’ but are limited by data, resolution, and domain.

GAN-based fills can plausibly hallucinate missing structure, but today work best at lower resolutions and on familiar categories; robust product features will likely require ensembles of specialized models and self-assessment of confidence.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

We want to free the artist to focus on inspiration and less on perspiration.

Gavin Miller

Shipping is a different type of peer review.

Gavin Miller

If you add a feature to a GUI, you add visual complexity; if you add a skill to an assistant, you don’t have to make the interface more intimidating.

Gavin Miller

Being in research is a license to be curious.

Gavin Miller

I like creating the illusion of life—if you coordinate enough degrees of freedom, it starts to feel like a creature rather than a thing.

Gavin Miller

Interplay between art, poetry, and technical research in Miller’s workAI-assisted creativity in Adobe products (Photoshop, Premiere, etc.)Specific Adobe Research projects in vision, editing, and style transferUser experience, learning, and adaptive/assistive creative interfacesData, privacy, and learning from real creative workflowsAR/VR, 3D content creation, and future creative mediumsBiomimetic snake and spider robots and their relation to AI agents

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