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Masters of Scale

Scott Galloway: Unfiltered lessons for business and life | Masters of Scale

Scott Galloway, creator of Prof G Media and NYU business school professor, joins Masters of Scale host Jeff Berman to answer your questions with his trademark wit and candor.

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Oct 17, 202437mWatch on YouTube

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Friendship as the Top Source of Retention
The episode opens with Scott Galloway recalling a study he read that says having a friend at work is the biggest driver of retention. Host Jeff Berman then introduces the Q&A format and Galloway's background.
- •Galloway cites a study that names having a friend at the company as the top source of retention
- •Early company trips were no spouses allowed, with drinking encouraged
- •The episode is built around audience questions
- •Galloway is introduced as a professor, author and podcaster behind Prof G Media
How Galloway Scales His Ideas
Berman asks what has worked best for extending the reach of Galloway's ideas. Galloway says his core competence is storytelling, that he hires talented people, and that being unfiltered and vulnerable draws audiences in.
- •Galloway works 30 to 40 hours a week and relies on 14 people at Prof G Media
- •He says to focus on what you're good at and hire talent for the rest, giving people a stake in ownership
- •He writes his Friday newsletter as if only his sons will read it
- •He talks openly about family, grief and emotions to fill a gap he sees among men
- •He tries to get in front of emerging media channels
Should CEOs Speak Out on Politics?
Berman asks what to tell business leaders unsure when to take public political positions. Galloway says that for 99% of CEOs he would advise staying out unless politics is part of the company's identity, arguing that companies exist to make money and have personified themselves.
- •Galloway has sat on seven public boards and 17 or 18 private ones, and generally advises against taking stands
- •Exceptions include companies like Ben & Jerry's, Hobby Lobby or REI, where a political position is part of identity
- •He says tech CEOs got over their skis by virtue signaling to younger employees
- •He argues corporations are so good at making money that they shouldn't be trusted to do anything else
- •He suggests telling employees the company provides economic security and their weekend politics are their own business
When Scale Becomes Bad for Society: Antitrust
Berman asks when scale turns harmful. Galloway describes the cycle in which wealth concentrates and influences policy, argues that dominant tech firms are close to impossible to disrupt, and calls for revived antitrust and an end to Section 230 protection for algorithmically elevated content.
- •Economies and companies follow a cycle of concentrated wealth and political influence
- •Galloway cites the market shares of Microsoft, Google and Meta as evidence of near-unassailable scale
- •He points to the AT&T breakup as a case where the pieces became more valuable than the whole
- •He supports empowering Lina Khan and Jonathan Kanter and breaking up companies from Big Chicken to Big Tech
- •He would remove Section 230 for algorithmically elevated content, citing parents' frustration over children's social media use
Assessing Company Culture from the Boardroom
Responding to a question from audience member Sally, Galloway says boards see culture only through the CEO and have few ways to judge it. He points to retention as the key indicator and says he is better at building culture as a CEO than assessing it as a director.
- •Boards get a manicured view because company information is filtered through the CEO
- •Galloway asks board members to have a few of the CEO's reports present to the board
- •Galloway cites 8 to 12 percent annual turnover as the benchmark, with much higher suggesting a culture or compensation problem
- •A board's main jobs are hiring and firing the CEO and deciding whether to sell
- •At Prophet and Prof G Media he imprinted values early and gave Prof G staff his credit card whenever four of them are together
CEO Communication and Different Kinds of Cultures
Berman shares how Buddy Media's founders handled their board. Galloway says boards hate surprises rather than bad news, that CEOs should over-communicate in bad times, and that many culture types can work, including remote-work challenges.
- •Galloway says boards don't mind bad news but hate surprises
- •A good CEO over-communicates in bad times and under-communicates in good times
- •Remote work is the biggest structural change from COVID and makes culture-building harder
- •Morgan Stanley's demanding culture contrasts with Levi Strauss's maternal one
- •Companies should be clear about who will thrive there and who it isn't for
Talent Retention: Overcompensating Your People
Galloway explains how he approaches retaining talent at his own company. He aims to pay people 30% to 80% above market, an idea he took from Netflix, and says a founder's goals and DNA shape the company.
- •Galloway wants to build economic value and economic security for the people he works with
- •He once underpaid in exchange for options but now overcompensates, since he takes no outside capital
- •The idea came from Netflix wanting to be the best-compensated employer
- •A founder's company ends up looking and feeling like the founder
Using AI as a Thought Partner
Berman raises AI and a question from Shelly about what white-collar workers should do. Galloway says AI won't take your job but someone who understands it will, and describes how he uses it as a thought partner rather than a replacement.
- •AI-written book chapters came back anodyne, so it can't replace his writing
- •He uses it to surface rites of passage he didn't know and to anticipate investor questions on a board deck
- •He advises spending 15 to 60 minutes a day to become competent with it
- •He is using AI with his 14-year-old to time sneaker drops, and Berman shares a ski-trip planning example
Why Healthcare Is Ripe for AI Disruption
Asked about AI and marketing agents, Galloway steers to healthcare and education as the most disruptable sectors, judged by price increases relative to inflation. He thinks AI chatbots will give people back time rather than cut costs.
- •His test is price increases versus inflation without matching innovation
- •He names healthcare and education as the most disruptable sectors
- •A parent of a diabetic child could use chatbots to navigate insurance, prescriptions and referrals
- •He doesn't expect AI to reduce healthcare costs but to give people back time
Getting More Americans to Vote
Responding to Noah Kagan's question about boosting voter turnout, Galloway says the answer is voting on phones, which he thinks is politically unlikely. He also mocks the idea of undecided voters this close to the election.
- •He recommends the book by Bradley Tusk on voting on phones, and Berman says he plans to read it
- •He says higher turnout tends to benefit Democrats, so there is resistance
- •He suggests an easy interface elevated in people's algorithms to reach 80 to 90 percent turnout
- •He asks whether non-voters are a case of natural selection
- •He finds undecided voters baffling and says he rarely voted in his twenties unless it was convenient
Advice for a Fifth-Generation Family Business
Berman reads an email from David, who runs a century-old family business that has plateaued. Galloway says the situation is too case-specific for precise advice but recommends an outside kitchen cabinet or board, noting his own mistake of trying to have all the answers.
- •The problem could be market headwinds or a weak team, and it is hard to tell without more information
- •He recommends a kitchen cabinet or board that is invested but dispassionate
- •Such advisors could scrutinize compensation, vendor relationships and customer concentration
- •His early mistake as an entrepreneur was needing to appear to know everything
- •In a family business he suggests advisors who give no mercy, no malice advice
Book Recommendations and Closing
Asked for one book everyone should read, Galloway names Strunk & White's Elements of Style, then talks about the influence of John Irving and early reading on how he sees himself. Berman closes the episode.
- •Galloway recommends Elements of Style because writing well underlies communicating well
- •He names The Winds of War and the Diary of Anne Frank as formative early reads
- •John Irving's books about strange characters made him feel less strange
- •Galloway says he wishes he had written Irving a letter

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