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AI DEBATE: What Will the World Actually Look Like in 2040?

In this AI debate, we explore: * Whether humans will exist in 2040. * What will happen once we reach AGI. * Whether AI gets smart enough to act malevolently or benevolently towards humans. * If AI will grow powerful enough to be out of human control. * and much more... Guests * Zack Kass is an AI advisor, author, and former Head of Go-to-Market at OpenAI. * Liv Boeree is a physicist, science communicator, podcaster and former professional poker champion. * Aric Floyd is an AI writer, and video producer. - Get up to $350 off the Eight Sleep Pod 5 at https://eightsleep.com/modernwisdom Get a Free Sample Pack of LMNT’s most popular flavours with your first purchase at https://drinklmnt.com/modernwisdom Get 35% off your first subscription on the best supplements from Momentous at https://livemomentous.com/modernwisdom Get 15% off your first order of my favourite Non-Alcoholic Brew at https://athleticbrewing.com/modernwisdom Get ChatGPT to explore ideas, solve problems, and learn faster at ⁠⁠https://chatgpt.com - 0:00 Will Humans Still Be Around in 2040? 8:20 What Jobs Will Be Protected From AI? 14:22 Finding Meaning in a Post-Work World 23:13 Technology is Pulling Us From Our Purpose 27:12 Where Do We Draw the Line With Outsourcing Thinking? 39:58 Is AI Unlocking Human Potential? 42:28 Refusal or Obedience: What’s More Dangerous? 46:01 The AI Attack That Should Worry Everyone 54:44 Should We Slow Down Advanced AI? 56:41 Does Recursive Research Actually Work? 01:10:52 How Safe is AI? 01:14:01 Can We Reach a Peace Deal For a Super-intelligent World? 01:22:38 Why AI 2040 Got So Much Right 01:26:21 Is AGI Inevitable? 01:30:39 Could Techno-Pastoralism Be the Future? 01:37:16 Is AI Replacing Human Connection? 01:45:36 How Do We Navigate the Purpose-Friction Problem? 02:00:50 Why Data Centre Policy Matters More Than Ever 02:05:56 The Concentration of Power Concern 02:11:39 Is the Frontier Strategy the Winning Condition? 02:18:17 Will AI Weaken Democracy? 02:29:11 How We Can Limit the Concentration of Power 02:31:45 Is ChatGPT Pessimistic About the Future? 02:37:54 What Should We Be Focused On? - Get access to every episode 10 hours before YouTube by subscribing for free on Spotify - https://spotify.modernwisdom.com or Apple Podcasts - https://apple.modernwisdom.com Get my free Reading List of 100 life-changing books here - https://chriswillx.com/books/ Try my productivity energy drink Neutonic here - https://neutonic.com/modernwisdom - Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact/

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Aug 17, 20262h 42mWatch on YouTube ↗

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Released
August 17, 2026
Duration
2h 42m
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Modern Wisdom
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EPISODE DESCRIPTION

In this AI debate, we explore:

  • Whether humans will exist in 2040.
  • What will happen once we reach AGI.
  • Whether AI gets smart enough to act malevolently or benevolently towards humans.
  • If AI will grow powerful enough to be out of human control.
  • and much more...

Guests

  • Zack Kass is an AI advisor, author, and former Head of Go-to-Market at OpenAI.
  • Liv Boeree is a physicist, science communicator, podcaster and former professional poker champion.
  • Aric Floyd is an AI writer, and video producer.

- Get up to $350 off the Eight Sleep Pod 5 at https://eightsleep.com/modernwisdom Get a Free Sample Pack of LMNT’s most popular flavours with your first purchase at https://drinklmnt.com/modernwisdom Get 35% off your first subscription on the best supplements from Momentous at https://livemomentous.com/modernwisdom Get 15% off your first order of my favourite Non-Alcoholic Brew at https://athleticbrewing.com/modernwisdom Get ChatGPT to explore ideas, solve problems, and learn faster at ⁠⁠https://chatgpt.com - 0:00 Will Humans Still Be Around in 2040? 8:20 What Jobs Will Be Protected From AI? 14:22 Finding Meaning in a Post-Work World 23:13 Technology is Pulling Us From Our Purpose 27:12 Where Do We Draw the Line With Outsourcing Thinking? 39:58 Is AI Unlocking Human Potential? 42:28 Refusal or Obedience: What’s More Dangerous? 46:01 The AI Attack That Should Worry Everyone 54:44 Should We Slow Down Advanced AI? 56:41 Does Recursive Research Actually Work? 01:10:52 How Safe is AI? 01:14:01 Can We Reach a Peace Deal For a Super-intelligent World? 01:22:38 Why AI 2040 Got So Much Right 01:26:21 Is AGI Inevitable? 01:30:39 Could Techno-Pastoralism Be the Future? 01:37:16 Is AI Replacing Human Connection? 01:45:36 How Do We Navigate the Purpose-Friction Problem? 02:00:50 Why Data Centre Policy Matters More Than Ever 02:05:56 The Concentration of Power Concern 02:11:39 Is the Frontier Strategy the Winning Condition? 02:18:17 Will AI Weaken Democracy? 02:29:11 How We Can Limit the Concentration of Power 02:31:45 Is ChatGPT Pessimistic About the Future? 02:37:54 What Should We Be Focused On? - Get access to every episode 10 hours before YouTube by subscribing for free on Spotify - https://spotify.modernwisdom.com or Apple Podcasts - https://apple.modernwisdom.com Get my free Reading List of 100 life-changing books here - https://chriswillx.com/books/ Try my productivity energy drink Neutonic here - https://neutonic.com/modernwisdom - Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact/

SPEAKERS

  • Chris Williamson

    host

    Host of the Modern Wisdom podcast.

  • Aric Floyd

    guest

    Commentator focused on AI risk, governance, and concentration of power.

  • Liv Boeree

    guest

    Science communicator and former professional poker player.

EPISODE SUMMARY

In this episode of Modern Wisdom, featuring Chris Williamson and Aric Floyd, AI DEBATE: What Will the World Actually Look Like in 2040? explores aI by 2040: power concentration, purpose loss, and coordination challenges ahead The guests expect AI to bring enormous upside but worry that it will also concentrate power in the hands of a few corporations or states, potentially undermining democracy as humans become less economically necessary.

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