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Andrew Schulz - Surviving The Cancellation Apocalypse (4K)

Andrew Schulz is an actor, comedian and a podcaster. The world seems to be losing its mind. No one is sure what the rules for acceptable conduct are any more. From virtue signalling to moral grandstanding, the incentives to take down others are stronger than ever. So why are some people immune to these laws of cancellation and is it a solution that the rest of us can steal for ourselves? Expect to learn whether Elon Musk is a hero or a villain, whether True Geordie's cancellation was appropriate, why Schulz thinks that a marriage with a prenup is not a real marriage, how come people don't sleep with their sisters, why the word "uncircumcised" is totally pointless, why the body positivity movement might just be girls reducing their competition from the dating market, what Schulz learned from Mr Beast and much more... Sponsors: Get the Whoop 4.0 for free and get your first month for free at http://join.whoop.com/modernwisdom (discount automatically applied) Free Gift Offer! Go to https://athleticgreens.com/wisdom to get a 1 year supply of immune-supporting Vitamin D3K2 & 5 travel packs FREE with your first purchase! You can’t put a price tag on your own health. Extra Stuff: Subscribe to Andrew's Podcast - https://www.youtube.com/@OfficialFlagrant Check out Andrew's website - https://theandrewschulz.com/ Get my free Reading List of 100 books to read before you die → https://chriswillx.com/books/ To support me on Patreon (thank you): https://www.patreon.com/modernwisdom #andrewschulz #cancellation #elonmusk - 00:00 Intro 01:30 Reflecting on True Geordie’s Cancellation 10:59 Elon Musk: Hero or Villain? 18:56 Andrew’s Thoughts on The Manosphere 28:05 Schulz Reviews Marriage 39:22 Will Jake Paul Vs Andrew Tate Happen? 47:59 Why You Don’t Have Sex with Your Siblings 57:29 Culture of Circumcision in America 1:03:07 Should Short Women be Allowed to Date Tall Men? 1:11:20 The Body Positivity Movement 1:22:04 What Schulz Learned from Mr Beast 1:29:44 Benefits & Challenges of Being Famous 1:43:08 Schulz's Opinion on Joe Rogan 1:50:47 Dealing with the Perils of Fame 1:58:39 Predicting the Future of Media & Comedy 2:05:38 The Joys of Florida 2:10:14 Where to Find Andrew - Get access to every episode 10 hours before YouTube by subscribing for free on Spotify - https://spoti.fi/2LSimPn or Apple Podcasts - https://apple.co/2MNqIgw Get my free Reading List of 100 life-changing books here - https://chriswillx.com/books/ - Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact/

Andrew SchulzguestChris Williamsonhost
Dec 12, 20222h 11mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:00 – 1:30

    Intro

    1. AS

      You can't say, "We're the modern day philosophers, we're the ones putting the truth out there in the world. We're the ones changing the world. We're the ones holding the mirror up to the powerful people," and then on the same level go, "Why are they canceling us for what we say?" You said you're important. You said you're changing the world. Well, if I was someone in power, I'd sure as wanna silence those mother ( censored ) s that are saying the real ( censored ) . If you're that important. Say we're not important at all, and we can say whatever the ( censored ) we want. I have value saying what the ( censored ) I want. So treat me like a clown. I don't give a ( censored ) .

    2. CW

      Andrew Schulz, welcome to the show.

    3. AS

      Thank you.

    4. CW

      What's happening, man?

    5. AS

      Chillin', man.

    6. CW

      Very good. I just missed you in the UK when you were over there. What'd you make of it?

    7. AS

      Yeah. Uh, uh, I liked it. I actually had a good... Yeah, I had a good time over there. It was cool. We got to, you know, do some cool interviews and, uh, I actually got to hang out in London. I haven't really hung out in London before. I didn't, like, do the whole pub thing.

    8. CW

      Mm-hmm.

    9. AS

      I like the pub thing.

    10. CW

      Do you not think you have an equivalent over here?

    11. AS

      It's different. It's different. Like, pub for pub's sake is not... We need another excuse. Uh, I think that's why we have, like, sports almost every night of the week, so it's like we can go to the bar to watch a sport-

    12. CW

      Not just for a hang.

    13. AS

      Yeah. Like, just going to drink feels wrong here. You know what I mean?

    14. CW

      (laughs) Yeah.

    15. NA

      Dunno, yeah.

    16. AS

      Like, I'm going to the bar to drink, like, just that? Yeah.

    17. CW

      Yeah.

    18. AS

      To meet anybody? Maybe.

    19. CW

      England.

    20. AS

      But mostly drink.

    21. CW

      Yeah.

    22. AS

      Doesn't that feel...

    23. CW

      I dunno man. It's part and parcel of the, the British culture, right? This is one of the problems they have with shutting down of pubs, that they're saying it's disconnecting people from each other.

    24. AS

      Yeah.

    25. CW

      And people are becoming more isolated.

    26. AS

      Yeah.

    27. CW

      So, you spent a good bit of time

  2. 1:30 – 10:59

    Reflecting on True Geordie’s Cancellation

    1. CW

      with True Geordie, Brian, while you were over there.

    2. AS

      Love Brian. Free Brian.

    3. CW

      Well, dude, I want to talk about that-

    4. AS

      Yeah.

    5. CW

      ... because I think-

    6. AS

      He's converted to Islam, did you know that?

    7. CW

      (laughs)

    8. AS

      Did you guys... This is breaking news. Brian is actually converting to Islam.

    9. CW

      Pete Davidson is now Jewish.

    10. AS

      Yep.

    11. CW

      And Brian, True Geordie, has converted to Islam.

    12. AS

      Brian is converting to Islam, yeah.

    13. CW

      Yeah.

    14. AS

      He had to give up the foreskin. Did you know that?

    15. CW

      No.

    16. AS

      He's getting circumcised-

    17. CW

      That's a heavy price to pay. I imagine he's got a massive foreskin.

    18. AS

      I don't know how heavy, but you know what I mean? Like-

    19. CW

      Yeah.

    20. AS

      Brian, do you think Brian's got a big, big unit?

    21. CW

      Big foreskin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's no-

    22. AS

      It's all foreskin. (laughs)

    23. CW

      Yeah, it's just 90% foreskin. It's like a sock. It's like a sock with a tennis ball in it.

    24. AS

      (laughs) Shout out to Brian, man.

    25. CW

      Yeah, so I, I thought it was very interesting, 'cause you guys do these sort of intros to the beginning of your pods where it's like a, a, a ran... like a bit-

    26. AS

      Yeah.

    27. CW

      ... for maybe a minute or two minutes. And you guys have said some ( censored ) during those that I, I can't believe gets put on the internet. What was interesting about watching Brian is, he said something that could have been a bit taken straight out of one of your intros.

    28. AS

      Yeah.

    29. CW

      Right? And he got smashed for it. Gymshark dropped him, Pokestars dropped him-

    30. AS

      Yeah.

  3. 10:59 – 18:56

    Elon Musk: Hero or Villain?

    1. AS

      Like, one day I'm gonna release the t-

    2. CW

      The tweet and delete?

    3. AS

      Oh, man. One day ... I don't even delete it. I don't even let it out there. I just type it in so I know the thought is there, and then that shit goes right to the drafts. If somebody hacks my Twitter, it's over for your boy.

    4. CW

      One, one day someone at Twitter's gonna press the wrong button-

    5. AS

      Ooh.

    6. CW

      ... and un- unleash all of your drafts.

    7. AS

      I gotta be on, on Elon's good side. I gotta stop talking shit about Elon, bro, 'cause, 'cause he could release all my drafts.

    8. CW

      What do you think, Elon, hero or villain? The internet's pretty split halfway at the moment.

    9. AS

      Just the idea that, like, he could figure out spaceships and not Twitter. Like, Twitter isn't, like, a hard thing. Like, have you ever met someone in tech? Like, they're not the best, like, socializing human beings. Do you know what I mean? Like, i- i- the fact that they could figure out socializing. Like, have you seen them talk to each other? Like, Zuckerberg has to, like, be reminded to blink, right?

    10. CW

      (laughs)

    11. AS

      Like, his eyes dry out. He's, "Oh, I like MMA, I like surfing." Blink. Okay, there you go. Right? It's like, so E- (laughs) So it's like there's, there's ... These aren't the people that are good at socializing, and they figured out apps around socializing. Elon can figure out how to just write something and post it. It's not that difficult. So if ... I have no question he's gonna figure it out. It's gonna be better. They'll have a billion users. They'll find out a way to monetize it. It'll be easy.

    12. CW

      But is he doing it for the right reasons, in your opinion?

    13. AS

      Yeah.

    14. CW

      'Cause that's the question, right? I-

    15. AS

      I don't know, but in my opinion, yeah. I-

    16. CW

      I think ... I, I, I would agree. Like it seems-

    17. AS

      Well, what's the right reasons? I have, I might have a different right reason than you.

    18. CW

      For me it would be to open up-

    19. AS

      'Cause he cares about free speech?

    20. CW

      It would be to open up communication online, yes. That's my opinion.

    21. AS

      I think that's part of it. But I think that there's other parts.

    22. CW

      What other parts?

    23. AS

      I think if you're a billionaire you need an, some sort of, like, news apparatus to protect yourself. Like, there's a reason why Microsoft, Bill Gates got MSNBC. The MS is Microsoft NBC, right? Amazon got The Washington Post. It's like, once you get enough money where people should kill you because you have that much money, you need a newspaper or something to be like, "Yo, don't kill that guy."

    24. CW

      (laughs)

    25. AS

      You know what I'm saying? Like, that's what all the articles are. It's like, you know, "Amazon gives $100 million to this." And it's just like, "Yo, don't kill me."

    26. CW

      Is there not a difference between something that's editorial and something that's just a platform, though? Like, Bezos can influence what goes out on The Washington Post a lot more easily than Elon can tell people what to tweet.

    27. AS

      Yeah, but Elon can also tweet whatever the fuck he wants. And he can also-

    28. CW

      Never get removed.

    29. AS

      Not, not only can it never get removed, but he can also remove shit that's said about him that's fake. Right? He could be like, "That's fake news."

    30. CW

      Mm.

  4. 18:56 – 28:05

    Andrew’s Thoughts on The Manosphere

    1. CW

      The manosphere, give me your thoughts on the manosphere.

    2. AS

      Yeah, what about the ma- manosphere's always existed, it just got less funny. That's my issue with it. Like, be funny. Be funny about whatever it is. Like, like my, my favorite comedian, the greatest comedian of all time, uh, hands down is Patrice O'Neal. Like Patrice O'Neal is early manosphere. Like I don't know if you watch any of his stuff. Like I'm early manosphere. Like my stuff, I've got jokes that are like perfectly aligned with manosphere shit, but they're jokes, it's funny. What was so great about Tate was he was funny. Like Mark was telling us this one thing, I didn't even see this one, he's like, "I'll never let a girl drive my car." He goes, uh, they're like, "Why?" He goes, "Have you ever, uh, thrown something at your girl and she caught it?" (laughs)

    3. CW

      (laughs)

    4. AS

      Like, like (laughs) like that's just a hilarious ... That joke could go on stage. Like you could take ... He's got lines you could g- take and go on stage and that's why it was so effective. It's like it, it, it tapped into almost like Borscht Belt comedy. Remember? Have you heard of like the Borscht Belt?

    5. CW

      No, what's that?

    6. AS

      Like old back in the day comed- like the, "Take my wife please," these one-liners, right?

    7. CW

      Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

    8. AS

      These one-liners were all incredibly offensive, but they tap into feelings that we have. And our feelings are not the things we execute. You get cut off, you wanna be like, "I wanna fucking kill that person," but you don't really kill them. It's a momentary feeling. So you have frustration with your wife, the, "Take my wife please," everybody in the audience, every husband who's dealt with their wife bitching about something, you know, in, they're the, "Oh, I, I relate to that moment. I relate to that feeling." 'Cause comedy's about feeling, it's not about truth. It's not about what should be true, it's about a feeling that is real that you've had. So I think what happens with these jokes is they tap into moments of what it is like to be a guy in this day and age, and then not funny people got into it and ruined it, like everything, and then started taking every single line seriously. And then when you start take every single line seriously, you just seem like you're ... hate women, you're angry at women, you're bitter, and that's not ... I don't think anybody really at the end of the day wants to resonate with that.

    9. CW

      The fundamental way that it's positioned is that men and women are enemies or adversaries at the very least.

    10. AS

      Yeah, like they're trying to extract something from you.

    11. CW

      Yeah.

    12. AS

      It's kinda dangerous to think about like that.

    13. CW

      I don't know. It, it doesn't seem like a particularly healthy way to create a foundation to build stuff up from that. And the problem is that I also understand, right? Like I was a guy in my 20s who didn't understand the world and himself and fucking everything.

    14. AS

      Yeah.

    15. CW

      So you go to the internet. It was just fortunate for me that I landed on like Jordan Peterson and Sam Harris and whatever-

    16. AS

      Yeah.

    17. CW

      ... as opposed to some other channel.

    18. AS

      Yeah.

    19. CW

      Because you're looking for answers and this person comes across. Here's another dynamic that I always notice. Certainty with the way that people speak.

    20. AS

      Yeah.

    21. CW

      Maybe this is just like in-built fucking unconfidence in knowing things.

    22. AS

      Yeah.

    23. CW

      But for me, I've always got like caveats and a little bit of just, "I'm not so sure, but I feel like this is the right way."

    24. AS

      Yeah.

    25. CW

      When people come out of somewhere and say, "This is the way that things are, here's a meme or a cool word or like a, a, a brand that makes it seem like a fucking legitimate academic topic."

    26. AS

      Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    27. CW

      "This is a thing and this is the way that it is."

    28. AS

      Yeah. Yeah.

    29. CW

      It seduces people. It's one of the reasons that so many political commentators online, like Ben Shapiro is a perfect example of this.

    30. AS

      Yeah.

  5. 28:05 – 39:22

    Schulz Reviews Marriage

    1. CW

      Well, you're a guy who's completed that now, you know, as a rehabilitated ex-party boy who's now-

    2. AS

      Bro, being married is the best.

    3. CW

      Why?

    4. AS

      No, it's horrible. I'm gonna be honest with you. No, I'm just kidding. (laughs)

    5. CW

      (laughs)

    6. AS

      No. No. No, no, it's great. It is the best. But the thing is that we don't share it's the best because that's not fun. I was talking about this with the guys on Flagrant but it's like you don't share good parts of your fucking relationships with your boys. There's nothing fun about that. You don't cli- call my boys up today and be like, "Oh man, I had a, I had a, a great chat at brunch with my wife and we really understood each other and felt safe and loved and vulnerable." Like my friends don't want to hear that fucking shit, right? They want to hear the annoying thing that my wife did to me that made me look like a fucking idiot, then we all laugh at me. Or we laugh at my wife, whatever it is. That's just way more entertaining, so there's things we share. But just to not be involved, I think, in the rat race is great. At my age, I'm 39, that's another thing. I had a great time partying, I'm glad I got it all out of my system, I don't have the FOMO that a lot of guys do. A lot of guys get hitched young and then they have to deal with their whole life, what would it be like to-

    7. CW

      Correct.

    8. AS

      ... have a threesome or something like that? What would it be like to go to Miami and see if you could get laid?

    9. CW

      Got to take them boxers off, man.

    10. AS

      Exactly. And I'm glad I did that. There's, at this point, there's nothing that I'm like, "I wish that I did that before I got married." So I just get to focus on developing this relationship.

    11. CW

      One of my boys was big into pick up art history about 10 years ago.

    12. AS

      Yeah.

    13. CW

      And I remember him speaking to me and he was saying, was like, "Dude, you're really fucking, like, committed to this pick up shit. Like you really, really are." Like where's it coming from?

    14. AS

      Yeah.

    15. CW

      He says, "Yeah, my future wife better be thankful for this." I'm like, "You're gonna have to explain why your future wife should be thankful that you're running-

    16. AS

      Yeah. Yeah.

    17. CW

      ... through half of this city-

    18. AS

      Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

    19. CW

      ... at the age of 23."

    20. AS

      Got it out of the system.

    21. CW

      And he said, "I don't want to walk down the street with my wife and my two kids and my dog and look at a Brazilian chick and think, 'I wonder what it's like to fuck a Brazilian chick.'"

    22. AS

      Yeah.

    23. CW

      "I want to have closed every different loop, every different desire-"

    24. AS

      Yeah.

    25. CW

      "... all the different quirks, even the monkeypox. I want to have got it all."

    26. AS

      (laughs) Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

    27. CW

      And that was what he wanted. And I do think that there's an element-

    28. AS

      Did he do it? Did he live up to it?

    29. CW

      I have no idea. Maybe monkeypoxed-

    30. AS

      Yeah.

  6. 39:22 – 47:59

    Will Jake Paul Vs Andrew Tate Happen?

    1. CW

      fine.

    2. AS

      Yeah. Yeah.

    3. CW

      Speaking of Tate.

    4. AS

      Yeah.

    5. CW

      Tate versus Jake Paul.

    6. AS

      Yeah.

    7. CW

      What do you think happens?

    8. AS

      I don't know, are they actually gonna fight?

    9. CW

      They had a face off. I think if they don't, it is ... Even for somebody that has as many resources as both of those guys do, they're dropping the bag big time if they don't do it, surely. I mean, there's gotta be ... Name me a bigger fight that could happen that would draw more normal public attention than Jake Paul fighting Andrew Tate.

    10. AS

      Bigger fight. Uh, Jake Paul versus Canelo Alvarez.

    11. CW

      Mm-hmm.

    12. AS

      That would be bigger.

    13. CW

      Mm-hmm.

    14. AS

      I think in order for the fight to be big, Jake needs to be the heel.

    15. CW

      That's the fucking interesting question.

    16. AS

      Yeah.

    17. CW

      That's the interesting question.

    18. AS

      Yeah.

    19. CW

      What sort of fucking world have we got ourselves into-

    20. AS

      Yeah.

    21. CW

      ... where Jake Paul's the hero-

    22. AS

      He's the face.

    23. CW

      ... in a fucking facedown? (laughs)

    24. AS

      Yeah. Yeah.

    25. CW

      Like, only, only if you find, like, a guy from the, the depths of, like, the fucking ninth circle-

    26. AS

      Yeah.

    27. CW

      ... and drag him out, and here's Andrew Tate-

    28. AS

      Yeah.

    29. CW

      ... as the fucking bad guy.

    30. AS

      Yeah.

  7. 47:59 – 57:29

    Why You Don’t Have Sex with Your Siblings

    1. CW

      Do you know why people don't fuck their sisters?

    2. AS

      (sighs) Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

    3. CW

      Why?

    4. AS

      Um, (sighs) it's just too much fun.

    5. CW

      (laughs)

    6. AS

      Just ... (laughs) You know? It's like it fits.

    7. CW

      Ugly, ugly sisters?

    8. AS

      It fits perfect, you know. It's like it's Lego, you know what I mean?

    9. CW

      So I learned about this. I gotta fucking-

    10. AS

      (laughs)

    11. CW

      I gotta tell you, I gotta fucking-

    12. AS

      No, I don't know. I don't know.

    13. CW

      I gotta tell you about this shit. So I learned this shit, I gotta tell you about it, right?

    14. AS

      Yeah, yeah.

    15. CW

      So there's something called the Westermarck effect, right?

    16. AS

      Okay.

    17. CW

      (clicks tongue) What it seems like happens, um, let's say that me and you are brother and sister.

    18. AS

      Yeah.

    19. CW

      I can't tell that you're my genetic relative, right? There's no, um, like fucking little code on your face.

    20. AS

      No smell or anything?

    21. CW

      There's ... Uh, you would be able to notice, uh, an affinity, but you wouldn't necessarily ... You're not disgusted, sexually disgusted because of that. The reason is because of this thing called the Westermarck effect.

    22. AS

      Okay.

    23. CW

      So what happens is infants that are raised together for a good amount of time throughout their infancy, usually between the age of like one to two until, uh, like puberty age-

    24. AS

      Yeah.

    25. CW

      What they do is they look at their parents and the family around them and they see who is mom giving attention to? Who am I being raised with? Who's she breastfeeding? If you're the older sibling, you look at, um, w-... did that baby, like, come out of mum and around the time of labor, was she holding this baby that then became my brother or sister. And that's called the Westmark window, right?

    26. AS

      Mm-hmm.

    27. CW

      So you have this period of time, and what you get is this sexual disgust imprinting. So that's why you don't have sex. Not because of some inbuilt fucking innate, "I know that you're my brother or sister." It's because of this window.

    28. AS

      Mm-hmm.

    29. CW

      Now the interesting thing happens when brother and sister are split apart at birth.

    30. AS

      They'll fuck?

  8. 57:29 – 1:03:07

    Culture of Circumcision in America

    1. AS

    2. CW

      I was in the car with a friend-

    3. AS

      Yeah.

    4. CW

      ... a couple of weeks ago and his girlfriend was sat next to me. We were talking about-

    5. AS

      Yeah.

    6. CW

      ... this exact thing.

    7. AS

      Yeah.

    8. CW

      And she went, "Uh, honey." Uh, close your ears for a second.

    9. AS

      Yeah.

    10. CW

      "I have seen a lot of dick in my life."

    11. AS

      Yeah.

    12. CW

      "I have never seen one that's got a foreskin." And I was like, "Wow."

    13. AS

      Yeah.

    14. CW

      If you're in the UK, you would've struggled to see one that-

    15. AS

      Yeah.

    16. CW

      ... didn't have a foreskin.

    17. AS

      Yeah.

    18. CW

      In fact, if you're Brian, you have too much.

    19. AS

      Yeah. (laughs)

    20. CW

      Like, you've got way more than you need.

    21. AS

      (laughs)

    22. CW

      Fucking 90% foreskin.

    23. AS

      Yeah. Yeah. (laughs) He could use it as a burka. Like-

    24. CW

      (laughs) Pull the back up and over the head.

    25. AS

      But he's gonna do, he's gonna do, he's gonna, when he becomes Muslim, he's gonna get circumcised, and then-

    26. CW

      Step into it like a sleeping bag?

    27. AS

      That's what ... (laughs) That's for his new bride, bro.

    28. CW

      (laughs)

    29. AS

      That's for his new bride. Oh, Brian. But, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's a, it's, no, it's a fascinating term that just, yeah, getting ... Yeah, it's such a weird thing.

    30. CW

      Why is it that so many Americans-

  9. 1:03:07 – 1:11:20

    Should Short Women be Allowed to Date Tall Men?

    1. CW

      here's another one.

    2. AS

      Yeah.

    3. CW

      So one of my friends, his wife's sister is six foot two without heels, very tall.

    4. AS

      Wife's sister-

    5. CW

      Wife's sister is very, very-

    6. AS

      Okay. So True Geordie's sister is six two without heels.

    7. CW

      (laughs) No, no.

    8. AS

      Okay, go on. Go on.

    9. CW

      Uh, she was walking through a supermarket and she was, uh, lamenting the fact that she can't find a partner that is taller than her. Like women on average want to date someone at least that's not shorter.

    10. AS

      Yeah.

    11. CW

      Right? And, uh, she's struggling and they're walking around the supermarket and they see this guy who's like six foot seven of the far side, apparently really good-looking dude. And, uh, she sees him on the edge of the aisle and she's like, "Oh, wow." Sort of nudges the sister and says like, "I might go, go and speak to him." And then they see him push the trolley along as they follow him around the aisle like stalkers. And they see him go up to a five foot three girl-

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