EVERY SPOKEN WORD
150 min read · 30,017 words- 0:00 – 15:00
What about you guys?…
- CWChris Williamson
What about you guys? Do you think there's any things to look out for-
- JOJonny
I-
- CWChris Williamson
... red flags with men?
- JOJonny
So, the, the, the main thing is how do they talk about their ex, or if they have any generalisations about women as a whole, if you have someone who it just seems bitter about all women.
- YUYusef
So, so that was one. Second one was similar to what you said, I'd just ask them how ... I'd ask them about their mother. Like if they're very caring and speak very fondly of their mother, chances are-
- CWChris Williamson
Good to women generally.
- YUYusef
Yeah, chances are.
- CWChris Williamson
That's a, that's a really, really good test. I think I need to be very careful today. So, the, the, the reason that Tinder is bad is because it immediately brands whatever interaction you are having with the person under the guise of Tinder. Like, "How did you meet?" "Oh, we met on Tinder." "That's the guy from Tinder." You are rated below anybody, even the worst person who comes through on any other preferential medium. The worst person on Instagram is rated above the best person on Tinder. As my dad would say, with regards to the Tinder thing, "You're looking for a streak of piss in a pile of shit."
- JOJonny
Oh, see I was gonna say diamond in the rough, but I think-
- YUYusef
(laughs)
- CWChris Williamson
Streak of piss in a pile of shit. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back. Johnny and Yusuf from propanefitness.com, and it is finally time for Relationships 104.
- YUYusef
The funnel.
- CWChris Williamson
The insta- including-
- JOJonny
Oh, yes.
- CWChris Williamson
... the Instagram funnel. This is the episode which is most likely to get me in trouble and make people cross.
- JOJonny
To rustle jinnies.
- YUYusef
Do you think because we're revealing the funnel, the funnel will work better or worse as a result?
- CWChris Williamson
I think I need to be very careful today. No, I ... the, the, the thing-
- YUYusef
I think we should go full Louis Theroux and just ask him about it. (laughs)
- JOJonny
(laughs)
- CWChris Williamson
Fine. "So tell us about ..."
- YUYusef
"Some people would say, Chris, that this is a very insensitive way of approaching relationships. What, what do you say to those people?"
- CWChris Williamson
So-
- JOJonny
I think the funnel's gonna be more effective as a ... 'cause people go, "Oh my God, I'm in the funnel."
- YUYusef
"I'm in the funnel, I'm in the funnel."
- JOJonny
"Yes."
- YUYusef
Yeah. Yeah.
- CWChris Williamson
I, I don't think ... Anyway, so relationships 101, 102, and 103 all charted in the top 50 worldwide on iTunes.
- YUYusef
Oh.
- CWChris Williamson
So thank you very much.
- 15:00 – 30:00
Or a snatch, and…
- YUYusef
Strongman.
- JOJonny
Or a snatch, and you're like... Yeah.
- YUYusef
Like, I'm not Strongman, I don't weigh 200 kilos.
- CWChris Williamson
(laughs)
- YUYusef
I don't use a lot of anabolics. I'm, I'm not on TV. Not that v- not that much in comparison. They're like, "Oh, go on. How much?"
- CWChris Williamson
(laughs) .
- YUYusef
Half.
- CWChris Williamson
So you can give them any number.
- YUYusef
Yeah.
- CWChris Williamson
You, you could say-
- YUYusef
10,000.
- CWChris Williamson
Oh, whoa.
- JOJonny
Whoa.
- YUYusef
(laughs)
- CWChris Williamson
Yeah, understood.
- JOJonny
"That's like three of me."
- YUYusef
So because I have an Instagram-
- CWChris Williamson
Yeah.
- YUYusef
... and I have f- 400 followers and I see someone's Instagram that has 5,000 followers and lots of really polished photos and it's like, "Wow, this person-"
- CWChris Williamson
Good shop window.
- YUYusef
"... therefore is popular."
- CWChris Williamson
Well, you've got some so-
- YUYusef
Same, et cetera.
- CWChris Williamson
It's social proofing.
- YUYusef
Yeah.
- CWChris Williamson
Right? And, uh, this comes back to kind of the first thing that I said, which I think is really virtuous actually, that a lot of people would make fantastic potential partners. The only problem is that you're not giving them the chance.
- JOJonny
It's the marketing.
- CWChris Williamson
Yeah. They're, they're, they're, they're literally, they're literally just marketing themselves poorly.
- YUYusef
Mm-hmm.
- CWChris Williamson
Or maybe you're marketing yourself poorly. So it's like right, well, if you present yourself online in the best possible way, and if everyone else does as well, then you're giving yourself the best chance of being accepted by whoever, whichever potential partners it is that you want to get.
- 30:00 – 45:00
It's just data, isn't…
- CWChris Williamson
looking for a little bit more as a girl, I think a really good question to ask a guy is, "When was your last relationship?" And if they- Do you want it to be recent or not? You just want it to exist.
- YUYusef
It's just data, isn't it?
- CWChris Williamson
Okay. Like if it- So it's a- If it was, if it was ... I would say if it was within the last month-... or more than the la- more than five years ago.
- YUYusef
Mm-hmm.
- JOJonny
So, if it was when they're nine, is it, "I held hands with my, with my girlfriend-"
- CWChris Williamson
Yeah.
- JOJonny
"... at nine years old."
- CWChris Williamson
And if it was-
- YUYusef
E- eject. Eject.
- JOJonny
Eject. Yeah, yeah.
- CWChris Williamson
And if it was nine hours ago?
- JOJonny
Uh, also eject.
- YUYusef
Oh, I see.
- CWChris Williamson
Both of those. There's a Goldilocks zone in the middle.
- YUYusef
Nine and nine.
- CWChris Williamson
Yeah.
- YUYusef
Older than nine years old-
- CWChris Williamson
(laughs)
- YUYusef
... but m- w- l- further, further away than nine hours ago.
- CWChris Williamson
Than nine hours ago. There we go, the rule of nine.
- YUYusef
There's your sweet spot. (laughs)
- CWChris Williamson
Give you the rule of nine. (laughs)
- YUYusef
(laughs)
- CWChris Williamson
Um, so, I think that's... What about you guys? Do you think there's any other things to look out for-
- YUYusef
I-
- CWChris Williamson
... red flags with men?
- JOJonny
So, the, the, the main thing is, and this goes for both, how do they talk about their ex? And yes, there is a chance that their ex was this massive psycho that, that... But even then, there's a level of tact and class that if someone just downplays it or doesn't tend to go on about it, or if they have any generalizations about women as a whole, if you have someone who, um, it just seems bitter about, about all women, like, that's another-
- CWChris Williamson
Like, you read sorts of red pill stuff.
- JOJonny
Oh, yeah, particularly. R- r- red, red pill-
- CWChris Williamson
If he's got any Rollo Tomassi books.
- 45:00 – 1:00:00
It's not even about…
- YUYusef
their true-
- JOJonny
It's not even about their opinion, it's just about can they formulate a-
- YUYusef
Yep.
- JOJonny
... uh, uh, something reasonable, and-
- YUYusef
I think our-
- CWChris Williamson
And, and even if they don't know, can they, with grace, play off the fact that they don't know?
- YUYusef
Mm-hmm.
- CWChris Williamson
Like, "Oh, I'm not really into politics, like, but I can tell you a lot about tracking forms."
- YUYusef
Or even just-
- JOJonny
Formula One. (laughs)
- YUYusef
... even just say, "I don't know. I've not heard about that. What's that?"
- JOJonny
Mm-hmm.
- CWChris Williamson
Yeah.
- YUYusef
For example.
- CWChris Williamson
Yeah.
- YUYusef
'Cause a very, a masculine thing is like, "Oh, yeah, yeah, I saw that."
- CWChris Williamson
"Did- tell me about it."
- YUYusef
"Yeah, the Brexit stuff? Yeah. Oh, yeah, I was reading about that."
- JOJonny
Or, like, the male answering syndrome, like, "Oh, me? I- I wrote the book on Brexit, man."
- YUYusef
"Mm-hmm." (laughs)
- CWChris Williamson
(laughs)
- YUYusef
"I am Brexit, man."
- CWChris Williamson
"Brexit? But we went out for drinks, like, three nights ago."
- YUYusef
(laughs)
- CWChris Williamson
"It was brother. He's, he's, he's brother, his brother used to play football with me."
- JOJonny
(laughs)
- CWChris Williamson
Oh, right. Yeah. Okay. (laughs) Um, so what-
- YUYusef
Or show them an Anton Creel clip and see if they react or not.
- CWChris Williamson
In which case, marry them immediately.
- YUYusef
If it's positive, grab them, hold them.
- 1:00:00 – 1:09:04
Un-keen. …
- YUYusef
s- insufficiently-
- CWChris Williamson
Un-keen.
- YUYusef
... un-keen.
- CWChris Williamson
Yeah.
- YUYusef
Um, that they, they probably just do it without thinking. And even if they're not, even if the, that doesn't truly represent them, they just, they've done something like, "Oh, sorry."
- CWChris Williamson
I think one of the ... Especially now that the response rate is less of a concern or a less of a major factor because of the advent of instant messaging, the content is. Like if it's, "What are you doing tonight? When are we going out next?"
- YUYusef
Right.
- CWChris Williamson
Like, you can, you can talk quite freely backwards and forwards and keep it casual.
- YUYusef
Mm-hmm.
- CWChris Williamson
You can also talk quite fr- I think sarcasm and a little bit of kind of jibing is a good tactic to be able to keep everything playful.
- YUYusef
Mm-hmm.
- CWChris Williamson
Not only does it stop you from falling too deep into the, like, falling in, uh-... early stages of love for someone who you've only met a few times.
- JOJonny
Mm-hmm.
- CWChris Williamson
It also kind of, it's that playful territory that, like, you can't have that ... Once you've been with someone for, like, six months, you can't gib them about not really being that bothered about, like-
- JOJonny
(laughs)
- CWChris Williamson
Do you know what I mean? Like, "F- fuck off, mate."
- YUYusef
Yeah.
- JOJonny
It also probes-
- CWChris Williamson
"I've seen your bumhole."
- YUYusef
Boring. (laughs)
- JOJonny
Yeah. (laughs)
- CWChris Williamson
(laughs)
- JOJonny
It, it probes whether they would, um-
- YUYusef
Change everything. (laughs)
- JOJonny
... whether they can take a joke as well. And, and that's it. So, so I think for me, the red flags are, yeah, can they take a joke? Are they ... Have they got a sense of humor? 'Cause I think that pre-frames a lot of other things, a lot of character traits as well.
- CWChris Williamson
What are those, like, what-
- JOJonny
Like, if someone can't laugh, then there's a lot of other things wrong with them.
- CWChris Williamson
It's like pre-screening for particular-
- JOJonny
Yeah.
- CWChris Williamson
... down-stream genetic diseases and stuff like that-
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