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(wind blowing) Ladies and gentlemen,…
- CWChris Williamson
(wind blowing) Ladies and gentlemen, I'm joined by Tim Briggs from Warry Programming and We Dominate Nutrition. Welcome.
- TBTim Briggs
Thank you.
- CWChris Williamson
You may remember Tim from such episodes as Why Does Fitness Hurt So Much-
- TBTim Briggs
Yeah.
- CWChris Williamson
... and Can You Teach Mental Toughness?
- TBTim Briggs
Yeah.
- CWChris Williamson
Um, they were-
- TBTim Briggs
They were massive hit. I'm very opinionated. (laughs)
- CWChris Williamson
Incredibly opinionated.
- TBTim Briggs
Driven by opinion.
- CWChris Williamson
(laughs) That's exactly what it is.
- TBTim Briggs
And exactly will to the end of the day as well.
- CWChris Williamson
Ta- We, we... It's just the same. It's just a replicate. So today, we're going to be talking about how to eat for performance.
- TBTim Briggs
Yes.
- CWChris Williamson
Um, particularly for me, I'm, I'm interested in this.
- TBTim Briggs
Mm-hmm.
- CWChris Williamson
I know how to eat to get lean, but-
- TBTim Briggs
Yup.
- CWChris Williamson
... if you were to say, "You've got a powerlifting meet next weekend, then you've got an endurance event the weekend after and then you've got a CrossFit competition the weekend after that-"
- TBTim Briggs
Yeah.
- CWChris Williamson
"... wha- how, what would you eat and why?" I, I wouldn't have a clue. I wouldn't-
- TBTim Briggs
(laughs)
- CWChris Williamson
... know the first place to start.
- TBTim Briggs
First up, the athlete will be outrageous. (laughs)
- CWChris Williamson
(laughs) If they can do all of those things.
- TBTim Briggs
If they can do all of those, if they're gonna do a powerlifting meet, and did you say, like a-
- CWChris Williamson
Uh-
- TBTim Briggs
What was the last one as well?
- CWChris Williamson
... the CrossFit event and then a, like a endur- like a, a root, marathon or something.
- TBTim Briggs
And a marathon. Pfft. Probably not gonna happen.
- 15:00 – 30:00
One hour work, but…
- CWChris Williamson
- TBTim Briggs
One hour work, but when you look at, uh, football-
- CWChris Williamson
Yeah.
- TBTim Briggs
... it's, it's interval training.
- CWChris Williamson
Brief intervals of sprinting.
- TBTim Briggs
So you're recovering, then you sprint-
- CWChris Williamson
Yeah.
- TBTim Briggs
... then you're recovering, then you sprint. When you're sprinting, what are you doing? You're using carbohydrates as fuel.
- CWChris Williamson
Right.
- TBTim Briggs
You're going glycolytic and you're spiking your heart rate.
- CWChris Williamson
Okay. So-
- TBTim Briggs
So yet again, you'll need carbohydrate, and often with elite teams, they'll load carbohydrate before, they'll load carbohydrate in halftime, and load carbohydrate post.
- CWChris Williamson
I've always wondered this. Are you able, like, having intra-workout-
- TBTim Briggs
Mm-hmm.
- CWChris Williamson
... carbs-
- TBTim Briggs
Yes.
- CWChris Williamson
... is your body able to absorb that with, like, sufficient speed for it to matter?
- TBTim Briggs
Well, yes.
- CWChris Williamson
Like, how long-
- TBTim Briggs
Yes.
- CWChris Williamson
... does it take to hit your stomach? It must be 20 minutes to hit your stomach, surely.
- TBTim Briggs
But then again, if you're training for an hour-
- CWChris Williamson
Mm-hmm.
- TBTim Briggs
... that 20 minutes is fine.
- CWChris Williamson
Yeah. Okay.
- TBTim Briggs
If you look at it that way.
- CWChris Williamson
No, no, no, yeah, I, I, I totally get it. I just, I-
- TBTim Briggs
See, we always recommend, now we're g- I know we've gone off piece, but it'd be good to talk about it, um, timings of nutrition.
- CWChris Williamson
Okay, yeah.
- TBTim Briggs
Especially for, for sport performance. So we categorize it in several windows. You've got your pre, and that'll be maybe an hour or two-
- 30:00 – 45:00
Yeah. …
- TBTim Briggs
50 grams, which is one portion-
- CWChris Williamson
Yeah.
- TBTim Briggs
... of granola in a bowl-
- CWChris Williamson
(laughs) You look at it like a sad, lonely child, don't you?
- TBTim Briggs
Yeah. You're like, "What?" (laughs)
- CWChris Williamson
"Is this all that there is?"
- TBTim Briggs
"Is this all there is?"
- CWChris Williamson
"Can I have some more please, sir?"
- TBTim Briggs
Then you take your bowl off the scale, continue to pour.
- CWChris Williamson
(laughs) It's just no one knows.
- TBTim Briggs
Put your scale to one side.
- CWChris Williamson
No one knows anymore.
- TBTim Briggs
(laughs)
- CWChris Williamson
Yeah.
- TBTim Briggs
Hopefully that camera didn't catch anything-
- CWChris Williamson
Yeah.
- TBTim Briggs
... of what we've just done.
- CWChris Williamson
Uh, uh, I s- I totally get it. Um, so yeah, I mean, the, the Ross Edgley thing, man, he's a fucking animal.
- TBTim Briggs
He is.
- CWChris Williamson
I'm go- I'm going to see his live show.
- TBTim Briggs
Okay.
- CWChris Williamson
So-
- TBTim Briggs
Run me through it. What's-
- CWChris Williamson
... I'm, I, don't-
- TBTim Briggs
... the itinerary?
- CWChris Williamson
I have no idea. He's doing a live show where he'll be doing experiments live on stage and talking about the swim and-
- TBTim Briggs
Okay.
- CWChris Williamson
... um, it's kind of a, I think, The World's Fittest Tour will be a live version of his, uh, book, which is pretty-
- TBTim Briggs
Mm-hmm.
- CWChris Williamson
... pretty interesting.
- 45:00 – 1:00:00
Yeah. …
- CWChris Williamson
that in, like, it would be probably almost-
- TBTim Briggs
Yeah.
- CWChris Williamson
... undrinkable.
- TBTim Briggs
Yeah.
- CWChris Williamson
Like, it's crazy th- Which is actually, at the moment, because I'm dieting, it's actually quite nice.
- TBTim Briggs
Mm-hmm.
- CWChris Williamson
It's a lot more satiating.
- TBTim Briggs
Yeah.
- CWChris Williamson
But when it comes to me trying to get those calories in, I would certainly be switching across. Um, bulk powders do this. They do two, but the one that you want is the, um, beef isolate.
- TBTim Briggs
Yeah.
- CWChris Williamson
How the fuck they manage to get-
- TBTim Briggs
I've cur- I've currently got this.
- CWChris Williamson
Have you?
- TBTim Briggs
I've currently got that protein, yeah. The chocolate one?
- CWChris Williamson
Yes. Good.
- TBTim Briggs
It's good. It is good.
- CWChris Williamson
Lot thinner.
- TBTim Briggs
A lot thinner. But, um, so let's go back around-
- CWChris Williamson
Yes.
- TBTim Briggs
... your dieting.
- CWChris Williamson
Okay.
- TBTim Briggs
Let's, let's run through this.
- CWChris Williamson
Me dieting?
- TBTim Briggs
Let's run through this. So in terms of you dieting, what's your approach to dieting?
- CWChris Williamson
Just dial-
- TBTim Briggs
Because-
- CWChris Williamson
... dial the cals back. (laughs)
- TBTim Briggs
You dial the cals back. (laughs)
- CWChris Williamson
Yeah.
- TBTim Briggs
So have you understood your TDEE or your metabolic baseline as we, we'd suggest? So-
- 1:00:00 – 1:10:17
Mm-hmm. …
- CWChris Williamson
like, I always use this example, I used it on our first ever podcast where I said that if you look at, especially in bodybuilding, but also to a degree in powerlifting and things like that, a lot of people i- in the buildup to their particular competition in a, a sport of choice that isn't CrossFit-
- TBTim Briggs
Mm-hmm.
- CWChris Williamson
... will actually not look forward to that comp prep.
- TBTim Briggs
Yeah.
- CWChris Williamson
So you'll see people, especially bodybuilding guys, everyone will have someone who's done a fitness show or a bodybuilding show on their Facebook, and they'll say, "Now begins the start of my 16-week cut."
- TBTim Briggs
Yeah. Start hell.
- CWChris Williamson
Like, it's gonna be s- yeah, it's gonna be savage.
- TBTim Briggs
Yeah.
- CWChris Williamson
And like, "I'm sorry if I'm not really gonna be friendly," and this, that, and the other. And you're like-I, I mean, if you take the equivalent period for CrossFitters, which is December until, I guess, February for the open or the-
- TBTim Briggs
It's all changed now, but yeah.
- CWChris Williamson
Yeah. Um, if you take any period up until a competition, it's their favorite time.
- TBTim Briggs
Yeah.
- CWChris Williamson
They're training once or twice a day. They're loving the training. Everything's going min.
- TBTim Briggs
Exactly.
- CWChris Williamson
Everything's dialed in. They're eating like fuck. Like, they're getting to eat loads. They're out getting loads of fresh air.
- TBTim Briggs
Yeah.
- CWChris Williamson
Like, uh, it's, uh, I imagine it must be similar for a lot of, um, a lot of guys that do powerlifting that don't have to meet weight.
- TBTim Briggs
Yes.
- CWChris Williamson
Like, if you get to constantly pee- like, rep PB over and over-
- TBTim Briggs
100%.
- CWChris Williamson
... and over again, it must be cool. Whereas, again, you know, l- like we said, if you know as an MMA athlete that you're going in and you've got this-
- TBTim Briggs
You're gonna hate life.
- CWChris Williamson
... yo- you've got this week looming over you-
- TBTim Briggs
Yeah.
- CWChris Williamson
... where you're like, "Holy fucking shit." Like ...
- TBTim Briggs
But worse for those, like that, that dehydration effect on your brain and your cognitive approach. Then you're gonna go and step in the ring and get punched in the face.
- CWChris Williamson
It's almost like, um, it's almost a different element of the sport.
- TBTim Briggs
It doesn't sit that well with me. Yeah.
- CWChris Williamson
It's a different element of the sport, I think. Like, uh, I, I ... You can be the best fighter in the world.
- TBTim Briggs
Mm-hmm.
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