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How To Properly Manage Your Time - Oliver Burkeman | Modern Wisdom Podcast 365

Oliver Burkeman is a journalist and an author. Time is something we all wish we had more of and tons of productivity gurus have proposed strategies to stop it from slipping through our fingers. After years of investigating and reporting on cutting-edge productivity for The Guardian, Oliver has arrived at a slightly different worldview of time and how we should manage it. Expect to learn why becoming more efficient often just leads to you getting more useless work done, the fundamental problems which all time management strategies fail to address, how deciding what you're going to fail at is a superpower, the danger of seeing your leisure time as an arena for self-improvement and much more... Sponsors: Get a free gift from Tiege Hanley when you try their skincare range at http://tiege.com/modernwisdom (deal automatically applied) Get 5 Free Travel Packs, Free Liquid Vitamin D and Free Shipping from Athletic Greens at https://athleticgreens.com/modernwisdom (discount automatically applied) Extra Stuff: Buy Four Thousand Weeks - https://amzn.to/3BhqQJR Follow Oliver on Twitter - https://twitter.com/oliverburkeman Get my free Reading List of 100 books to read before you die → https://chriswillx.com/books/ To support me on Patreon (thank you): https://www.patreon.com/modernwisdom #timemanagement #productivity #efficiency - 00:00 Intro 00:29 Unique Challenges of Time 09:34 The Dangers of Over-productivity 19:24 Solving the Efficiency Trap 26:18 What to Say ‘No’ To 38:07 Letting Go of To-Do List Anxiety 46:39 Forsaking Present for Future 56:03 Productivity as Denial of Mortality 1:01:33 Seeing Life as a Gift - Listen to all episodes online. Search "Modern Wisdom" on any Podcast App or click here: Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2MNqIgw Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2LSimPn Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/modern-wisdom - Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact/

Oliver BurkemanguestChris Williamsonhost
Aug 30, 20211h 5mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 0:29

    Why getting better at productivity often means doing more unimportant work

    Oliver opens with a counterintuitive warning: improved efficiency can push genuinely important work further into the future. As you believe you can “do everything,” you apply less filtering and accept more low-value tasks.

    • Efficiency can increase throughput of trivial tasks, not meaningful progress
    • Believing you can do it all reduces your selectiveness
    • Important work gets perpetually deferred “over the horizon”
    • Filtering and prioritization matter more as capacity increases
  2. 0:29 – 1:27

    Time isn’t something you possess—why “managing” it is a flawed premise

    They explore the unique challenge of time: unlike money or objects, you don’t actually own the future or even the rest of today. You only ever receive moments one at a time, equally for everyone.

    • The idea that we ‘have’ time is conceptually misleading
    • You can’t store or bank next week or later today
    • Life arrives as a sequence of present moments
    • Time’s constraints are universal and non-negotiable
  3. 1:27 – 2:50

    The core time-management mistake: chasing mastery and control

    Oliver argues most time-management anxiety comes from trying to achieve total control over time and the future. This pursuit is impossible, and the attempt itself drives stress and suboptimal decisions.

    • People seek ‘full control’ to feel secure about the future
    • Overwhelm fuels fantasies of optimal productivity systems
    • The desire to ‘win’ against time is a losing battle
    • Chasing control distorts how you spend attention and energy
  4. 2:50 – 4:33

    Is time anxiety modern? Clocks, industrialization, and acceleration

    Time anxiety as we experience it today depends on modern conditions: clocks, economic competition, and constant acceleration. Earlier cultures experienced time as the medium of life, not as a resource to optimize.

    • Pre-industrial life often lacked a separated concept of time-as-resource
    • Clocks enable measurement, comparison, and anxiety
    • Post-industrial efficiency once felt achievable; now it feels impossible
    • Recent decades intensify the sense that ‘staying on top’ can’t be done
  5. 4:33 – 7:56

    Why you feel busier despite having more leisure: ‘overwhelm’ vs ‘busy’

    They distinguish benign busyness from corrosive overwhelm. The problem isn’t activity; it’s the perceived obligation to do more than is possible—an internal contradiction that generates chronic stress.

    • Evidence suggests people may have more leisure than decades ago
    • Busyness can be pleasant when the day can contain it
    • Overwhelm is the mismatch between ‘should’ and ‘can’
    • “Ought implies can”: impossible obligations create distress
  6. 7:56 – 9:31

    Infinite inputs vs finite lives: the hidden engine of over-productivity

    Oliver notes modern life offers endless possible demands—email, opportunities, ambitions—while human time remains finite. Optimization becomes an attempt to make a finite person handle infinite inputs, which cannot work.

    • Modern life presents effectively infinite tasks and opportunities
    • Finite time makes ‘do everything’ mathematically impossible
    • Efficiency is useful, but cannot solve the infinity/finitude mismatch
    • Systems promise serenity ‘next week’ but keep you chasing it
  7. 9:31 – 13:41

    The over-productivity danger: when efficiency becomes the goal (Goodhart/Parkinson)

    They discuss how efficiency can become self-justifying and attract more work, not freedom. Improving the system invites more inputs, often lower-quality, leaving you busier and less fulfilled.

    • Efficiency can become the metric that replaces the real purpose
    • Goodhart’s Law: measures become targets and lose meaning
    • Parkinson-like dynamics: more capacity attracts more tasks
    • Being fast at email generates more email and more churn
  8. 13:41 – 26:17

    Escaping the efficiency trap: ‘surrender’ that sharpens focus, not resignation

    Oliver proposes a ‘muscular’ acceptance of reality: you cannot master time, but you can stop wasting energy on the impossible. This surrender is meant to be bracing and empowering—freeing you to choose a few meaningful commitments.

    • Acceptance is not defeat; it can be motivating and clarifying
    • Stop spending energy trying to outrun reality and limitation
    • Cal Newport’s ‘face the productivity dragon’: make hard choices
    • Meaningful time use becomes easier after confronting finitude
  9. 26:17 – 27:56

    What to say ‘no’ to: the hard part is declining things you genuinely want

    They explore trade-offs and the emotional discomfort of neglecting some important things. Oliver emphasizes that saying no isn’t mainly about rejecting ‘crap’—it’s about declining real opportunities you still value.

    • Single-task focus: limit work-in-progress to create progress
    • Kanban-style constraints help make trade-offs explicit
    • Saying no often means refusing worthwhile, attractive options
    • Without limits, you become a reservoir for others’ expectations
  10. 27:56 – 35:00

    Choosing your failures on purpose: focusing by ‘deciding what to fail at’

    Oliver explains a practical way to live with finitude: preselect domains where you will accept being average (for now). This reduces guilt, narrows focus, and avoids spreading yourself thin across incompatible goals.

    • Pre-decide which life domains won’t get maximum attention now
    • Examples: tidy house vs childcare vs career intensity vs fitness
    • Precommitment reduces the ‘potentiality gap’ and disappointment
    • Narrow focus can create a competitive advantage over scattered effort
  11. 35:00 – 38:08

    Sticking with one path: the Helsinki Bus Station theory of originality

    They discuss why dabbling in many lanes can be a form of avoidance and self-handicapping. The Helsinki Bus Station metaphor argues that real differentiation comes after a long stretch of apparent unoriginality—by staying on one route long enough to reach the outskirts.

    • Multi-project juggling can provide excuses for mediocre performance
    • Attention-economy incentives can reward ‘weird combos’ over depth
    • Originality often emerges after long apprenticeship and patience
    • Persistence through sameness leads to distinctive voice/edge later
  12. 38:08 – 46:40

    Letting go of to-do list anxiety: timeboxing, bottlenecks, and stopping on time

    Oliver offers tactics for people addicted to productivity: put time first, then tasks. Timeboxing and constrained to-do lists create deliberate bottlenecks that force prioritization and make trade-offs conscious.

    • Timeboxing: decide work duration and stop, even if tasks remain
    • Discomfort is inevitable; the practice is ending when planned
    • Two-list method: unlimited backlog + limited shortlist (e.g., five slots)
    • External constraints (apps like Cold Turkey) can enforce boundaries
  13. 46:40 – 56:04

    Forsaking the present for the future: instrumentalizing everything (even leisure)

    They examine how future-orientation colonizes not only work but also rest, turning leisure into another performance arena. The deeper cost is chronic absence from your own life: value is always deferred to a future that never arrives.

    • Leisure-as-self-improvement becomes ‘work in disguise’
    • Modern pressures push excessive future-investment in every moment
    • Keynes’ ‘cat and kittens’ metaphor: always valuing the next stage
    • Planning is useful, but can become compulsive deferral of living
  14. 56:04 – 1:01:33

    Productivity as denial of mortality: plans as an attempt at exemption from chaos

    They connect productivity obsession to existential fear—trying to transcend finitude and uncertainty. Plans and systems can become a way to imagine a problem-free level of life, but reality remains uncontrollable and vulnerable.

    • Planning can function as a defense against death and uncertainty
    • A plan is ‘just a thought’—not a hook controlling the future
    • Control fantasies persist: ‘once this is solved, I’ll be safe’
    • Life continually generates new problems; there’s no final cleared state
  15. 1:01:33 – 1:05:15

    Seeing life as a gift: 4,000 weeks, gratitude, and relaxed seriousness

    They close on the book’s central frame: a human life is roughly 4,000 weeks, and you didn’t have to exist at all. The point isn’t frantic carpe diem, but a calmer liberation: since you already received the gift of time, you might as well spend it on what matters.

    • The improbability of your existence raises the stakes of how you live
    • Avoid ‘white-knuckle’ seizing-the-day pressure and experience hoarding
    • Dropping the impossible quest for mastery can feel relaxing and freeing
    • Choose meaningful commitments because you have nothing to lose versus never being born

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