Modern WisdomHow To Work Out What You Want To Want From Life | Kyle Eschenroeder | Modern Wisdom Podcast 189
At a glance
WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
Designing Your Desires: Stop Chasing Defaults, Start Choosing Life
- Chris Williamson and Kyle Eschenroeder explore Kyle’s long-form essay, “What Do You Want to Want?”, arguing that most people live by unexamined, memetic desires rather than consciously chosen ones. They distinguish between shallow, externally programmed wants (fame, wealth, ease, extraordinariness) and deeper, self-authored desires that lead to meaning and eudaimonia.
- Using philosophy, psychology, and personal stories, they show how default wants create lives of regret, like “winning at the wrong game,” and how reframing struggle, success, money, and “being special” can radically change life trajectories. Practical tools include community design, internal scorecards, journaling, and shadow work to uncover and reshape what we truly want.
- The conversation is positioned as an “active” episode: listeners are repeatedly invited to examine their own lives, ask what they genuinely want to want, and recognize that programming their desires is tantamount to programming their future.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasAsk yourself regularly: What do I want to want?
Most of your current desires are inherited from culture, peers, and advertising. Consciously asking what you want to want exposes unchosen defaults and lets you begin deliberately reprogramming your motivational system.
Beware of living by default, memetic desires.
Memetic desire (wanting what others around you want) can lead you to invest your life in goals—careers, relationships, status—that you never truly chose, resulting in “winning at the wrong game” and deep regret.
Choose a life of meaningful struggle over an “easy” life.
Research on stress, retirement, and post-traumatic growth suggests that embracing challenge makes us more alive, resilient, and satisfied; chasing comfort and ease often accelerates decline and drains life of meaning.
Shift from wanting to be somebody to wanting to do something.
Fame and attention are fragile, addictive, and place your happiness in others’ hands. Orienting toward real impact and meaningful work creates a stable foundation so that when attention fades, your purpose and satisfaction remain.
Replace the pursuit of extreme wealth with cultivating a frugal heart.
Money is like gasoline for a road trip: essential but not the point. Learning to enjoy simple, low-cost experiences lowers your “burn rate,” increases freedom, and prevents the endless treadmill of needing more to feel okay.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesIf we don't cut to the core and program our wants, our desires, then our best-case scenario is to be the most successful, rich, or famous slave.
— Kyle Eschenroeder
You can win the game and then realize you were playing the wrong game the whole time.
— Kyle Eschenroeder
The modern devil is cheap dopamine.
— Naval Ravikant (quoted by Kyle Eschenroeder)
My life is for itself and not a spectacle.
— Ralph Waldo Emerson (quoted by Kyle Eschenroeder)
When you are so interested in your own game, you don't care about the score on a game you're not playing.
— Kyle Eschenroeder
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