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Michael Knowles - The Problem With Political Correctness | Modern Wisdom Podcast 331

Michael Knowles is a political commentator, podcaster, and an author. Ostensibly, political correctness is the right thing to do if you're a responsible human that is respectful of other people's emotions. Encouraging people to be mindful and precise of the words they use makes sense. But demanding for tolerance becomes undermined when the people doing the demanding are overbearing and intolerant. It’s like punching people in the name of peace. Something is obviously amiss... Expect to learn why people who respect free speech may need to restrict free speech, how political correctness lays a trap for everyone, whether Michael thinks we're closer to a Brave New World or 1984, his thoughts on Steven Crowder's situation and much more... Sponsors: Get 5 Free Travel Packs, Free Liquid Vitamin D and Free Shipping from Athletic Greens at https://athleticgreens.com/modernwisdom (discount automatically applied) Get 20% discount & free shipping on your Lawnmower 3.0 at https://www.manscaped.com/ (use code MODERNWISDOM) Extra Stuff: Buy Speechless - https://amzn.to/3vTcmxS Follow Michael on Twitter - https://twitter.com/michaeljknowles Get my free Ultimate Life Hacks List to 10x your daily productivity → https://chriswillx.com/lifehacks/ To support me on Patreon (thank you): https://www.patreon.com/modernwisdom #michaelknowles #politicalcorrectness #freespeech - 00:00 Intro 00:30 The Problem with Political Correctness 06:00 The Need for Censorship 11:25 Language Has Been Politicised 21:35 The Inner Citadel 28:10 Why the Left Hate the Working Class 31:45 The End Goal of Political Correctness 38:28 Should Intolerance Be Tolerated? 45:22 The World Without Woke 51:29 History's Grounding Effect 55:43 'Seasons' Are Triggering 59:20 1984 or Brave New World? 1:10:00 Reality & Accountability 1:15:35 Steven Crowder's Cancellation - Listen to all episodes online. Search "Modern Wisdom" on any Podcast App or click here: iTunes: https://apple.co/2MNqIgw Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2LSimPn Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/modern-wisdom - Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx Email: modernwisdompodcast@gmail.com

Michael KnowlesguestChris Williamsonhost
Jun 7, 20211h 27mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 6:04

    Political correctness as a trap: redefining words to reshape reality

    Knowles argues that politically correct (PC) speech tries to change reality by changing definitions. He claims conservatives get trapped: complying reinforces the new standards, while “free speech absolutism” dissolves old norms anyway. The segment sets up PC as a long-running cultural project rather than a recent trend.

    • PC/wokism/cancel culture reframes reality by redefining language
    • Two conservative reactions (compliance vs absolutism) both erode shared standards
    • PC’s rise is decades-old in public awareness and ~100 years in development
    • Examples: pronouns, women’s sports, Pride-month normalization
    • Claim: conservatives fail by not offering a substantive alternative vision
  2. 6:04 – 11:26

    Why Knowles advocates 'just and prudent' censorship

    Pressed on how to escape the Catch-22, Knowles argues for limited censorship grounded in long-standing legal and moral boundaries. He points to restrictions on fraud, obscenity, and certain sedition as evidence that societies always constrain speech. The justification: some speech undermines the conditions that make truthful speech possible.

    • Call for ‘just and prudent’ censorship as a counter to PC’s standards-destruction
    • Historic limits on speech: fraud, obscenity, certain sedition
    • Chesterton: ‘thought that stops thought’ should be stopped
    • Education depends on objective truth; relativism sabotages learning
    • Liberty can be undermined by licentiousness (addiction analogy)
  3. 11:26 – 13:51

    Language, thought, and Orwell: why semantics aren’t trivial

    Chris and Knowles connect linguistic narrowing to restricted cognition, echoing Orwell’s thesis about Newspeak. They argue semantic shifts are not cosmetic—language structures what people can think and therefore how they live. Knowles disputes the ‘conspiracy theory’ framing by placing the pattern in a longer intellectual history (Orwell/Huxley).

    • Restricted vocabulary limits possible thought (1984/Newspeak)
    • Semantic changes are foundational, not mere ‘word games’
    • Orwell and Huxley as early diagnosers of modern dynamics
    • Difficulty: explaining language stakes without sounding conspiratorial
    • Speech manipulation is framed as a route to social control
  4. 13:51 – 21:19

    Euphemism treadmill and 'compassionate lies' in PC language

    Knowles distinguishes between polite euphemisms that don’t deny reality and PC euphemisms that invert meaning. He gives examples like “justice-involved youth” and shifting homelessness terms to argue that moral accountability gets displaced. The chapter culminates in the claim that compelled participation in falsehoods (e.g., pronouns) threatens social cohesion.

    • Two euphemism types: reality-compatible politeness vs reality-denying PC
    • Examples: ‘justice-involved youth,’ ‘unhoused,’ pronoun demands
    • PC reframing shifts blame and removes moral/causal explanations
    • Argument: ‘lies are compassionate, truth is cruel’ is a left premise
    • Claim: inability to agree on basic reality undermines self-government
  5. 21:19 – 28:12

    Retreat to the inner citadel: coping by changing the game

    Chris introduces Isaiah Berlin’s “inner citadel” idea: when people can’t attain desired goods externally, they redefine values so they can ‘win’ internally. Knowles links this to leveling impulses and hostility toward excellence (Vonnegut’s Harrison Bergeron). The discussion argues that suffering isn’t grounds to abolish ideals like truth, beauty, or excellence.

    • Berlin’s inner citadel: redefining desires when reality blocks them
    • Examples: status, relationships, weight, crime—creating new rules to ‘win’
    • Knowles ties this to anti-excellence leveling (Harrison Bergeron)
    • Suffering is universal; it doesn’t negate the existence of the good/true/beautiful
    • Critique of conservative subjectivist shrug: ‘no accounting for taste’
  6. 28:12 – 31:53

    Gramsci, cultural capture, and why the Left 'hates the working class'

    Knowles frames PC’s strategy as Gramscian: seize institutions and reshape common sense to enable revolution. Chris probes the Left’s apparent contempt for working-class people, and Knowles argues identity categories provide a political workaround where class solidarity failed. They discuss manufactured group labels and how cultural “delivery mechanisms” outcompete the Right.

    • Marxist failure → Gramsci’s ‘war of position’ to capture culture
    • Claim: Left’s disdain for ‘deplorables’ and elevation of experts
    • Identity politics as substitute for class-based solidarity
    • Political usefulness of broad labels (e.g., ‘Hispanic,’ ‘Asian’)
    • Right’s weakness: underestimates speech’s role in polity; Left uses it expertly
  7. 31:53 – 39:28

    The end goal of PC: radical liberation and the 'abolition of humanity'

    Asked where PC ends, Knowles argues it is primarily destructive—an inversion of traditional moral order rather than a constructive alternative. He characterizes the telos as liberation from nature and reality, producing atomization and a collapse of deliberative politics into coercion. The conversation ties this to anti-human currents in some environmental rhetoric.

    • PC framed as negative/destructive rather than edifying
    • Radical liberation becomes self-undermining: ‘liberation from reality’
    • End state described as atomization and breakdown of social bonds
    • Loss of objective truth → speech collapses → politics becomes raw imposition
    • Parallel to ‘human racism’/anti-human sentiment in eco-ideology
  8. 39:28 – 42:26

    Tolerance vs intolerance: Marcuse, Locke, and boundary-setting

    They examine whether intolerance can be tolerated, citing Herbert Marcuse’s “Repressive Tolerance” and its logic for censoring conservatives. Knowles concedes a general principle: no society can tolerate ideas that destroy the society itself. He reframes open-mindedness as instrumental—meant to close around perceived truth and shared premises.

    • Marcuse: ‘liberating tolerance’ censors the Right and amplifies the Left
    • Knowles accepts the meta-point: societies must defend themselves from self-destruction
    • Locke’s paradoxical limit: tolerance ‘except atheists’ (historical example)
    • Open mind as means to conviction, not permanent suspension of judgment
    • Buckley: ‘skepticism has utility only when it leads to conviction’
  9. 42:26 – 51:29

    Self-hatred, theology, and contradictory modern views of the person

    Knowles argues Western self-critique has become uniquely extreme and reflects deeper spiritual disorder. He links declining birth rates, civilizational guilt narratives, and anti-tradition impulses to a loss of theological grounding. He also highlights what he sees as contradictions: materialism (“meat puppets”) coexisting with Gnostic body-denial (gender ideology).

    • Claim: West is uniquely self-hating despite achievements (e.g., abolishing slavery)
    • Self-hatred expressed in overpopulation rhetoric, abortion, anti-natalism
    • ‘All human conflict is theological’—religious roots of cultural conflict
    • Transgender ideology described as Gnostic body/soul split
    • Left uses inconsistent arguments if they destabilize tradition
  10. 51:29 – 55:43

    History’s grounding effect: America’s shallow roots, immigration, and memory wars

    Chris contrasts the UK’s deeper historical continuity with America’s contested founding narratives. Knowles argues that weak shared origin stories plus high immigration and poor assimilation accelerate institutional and cultural fragmentation. They connect this to battles over national memory—statues, founders, and redefinition of heritage.

    • UK’s depth of history as ballast; America’s founding story is contested
    • Multiple origin myths: Pilgrims, Jamestown, 1776, frontier, Ellis Island
    • Open borders + assimilation decline → identity instability (Knowles’ view)
    • Religious fragmentation as parallel to cultural fragmentation
    • Statue removals as an attack on national memory and common sense
  11. 55:43 – 59:20

    ‘Seasons’ are triggering: universality, elite jargon, and imperial claims

    They react to an example of “inclusive language” that avoids seasonal terms like “summer” in favor of corporate calendar language (e.g., “Q3”). Knowles argues that universalizing language erases particularity (place/time/nation) while smuggling in elite frameworks. He extends the point to symbols: national flags are bounded, while Pride/BLM are portrayed as universal and expansionary.

    • Mocked example: replacing ‘summer’ with ‘the months I mean’ or ‘Q3’
    • Critique: universalism erases time/place particularity but imports elite corporate language
    • National symbols vs universal symbols: bounded claims vs imperial claims
    • Pride/BLM flags framed as universalizing ideologies
    • Connection to borderlessness and ‘citizen of the world’ rhetoric
  12. 59:20 – 1:09:57

    1984 vs Brave New World: control through pleasure, tech, and abundance

    Knowles and Chris weigh which dystopia better matches the present, landing on mostly Huxley with some Orwellian language control. They argue modern power works less through overt repression and more through pleasure, distraction, and pharmacological/sexual deregulation. Social media, on-demand consumption, and abundance are framed as the enabling infrastructure of soft control.

    • Conclusion: ~90% Brave New World, ~10% 1984 (language)
    • Huxley’s model: control via pleasure, drugs, sex, and convenience
    • Tech platforms manipulate reward chemistry and attention
    • Abundance replaces scarcity as the central civilizational challenge
    • Porn and opioid crises as modern analogs to soma
  13. 1:09:57 – 1:15:36

    Reality and accountability: habits, religion, and PC replacing morals with speech codes

    They discuss how delayed consequences (health, social decay) let semantic manipulation outpace reality—until reality reasserts itself. Knowles argues private behavior has public/political consequences and that weakening religion reduces accountability. He claims PC substitutes traditional moral codes with speech codes, shifting focus from actions to verbal compliance.

    • Lead vs lag: semantic wins are immediate; real-world costs appear later
    • Private vice has public political consequences (shared with Left’s logic)
    • Decline of religion reduces accountability mechanisms
    • Catholic confession as structured accountability and interruption of habit loops
    • PC replaces moral codes with speech rules: ‘what you say’ over ‘what you do’
  14. 1:15:36 – 1:27:13

    Steven Crowder’s cancellation and the limits of ‘never cancel anyone’

    In the closing, they use Crowder’s situation to illustrate how deplatforming shrinks reach by destroying discoverability, not just revenue. Knowles argues conservatives again face a false binary: accept left cancellations or oppose all cancellations. He proposes a third approach—enforce standards too—citing historical anti-communist ostracism and calling for a unified substantive conservative vision to define boundaries.

    • Crowder targeted because he’s mainstream and joke-based attacks are scalable
    • Deplatforming’s real damage: loss of discovery and cultural presence
    • Milo as example of true ‘un-personing’ via delivery-mechanism removal
    • Rejects ‘never cancel anyone’ as ahistorical; all societies enforce taboos
    • Calls for conservative unity and a substantive vision to set standards

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