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Our Biggest Lessons From 2020 | Modern Wisdom Podcast 261

Jonny & Yusef join me today to talk through our biggest lessons from 2020. Expect to learn what we've learned from the weirdest year ever, how Yusef's insight on the front-lines of a hospital has changed his worldview, how Jonny has improved his personal development by removing most of the things he does, how hot a hot potato can be and much more... Sponsors: Get 2 weeks Free Access to the State App at https://apple.co/36nNALG (discount automatically applied) Extra Stuff: Check out Jonny & Yusef's site - https://propanefitness.com/ Learn to build an online business - https://propanefitness.com/modernwisdom Get my free Ultimate Life Hacks List to 10x your daily productivity → https://chriswillx.com/lifehacks/ To support me on Patreon (thank you): https://www.patreon.com/modernwisdom #2020review #mindset #personaldevelopment - Listen to all episodes online. Search "Modern Wisdom" on any Podcast App or click here: iTunes: https://apple.co/2MNqIgw Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2LSimPn Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/modern-wisdom - Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx Email: modernwisdompodcast@gmail.com

Chris WilliamsonhostYusefguestJonnyguest
Dec 21, 20201h 3mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 3:04

    Christmas jumper banter, hot potato, and setting the year-end agenda

    The episode opens with festive banter about Christmas jumpers and a running gag involving a hot potato. Chris frames the conversation as an annual end-of-year wrap-up: lessons learned, failures, and a possible “bear or bull” game (later postponed).

    • Christmas jumper tradition and joking around ("festive Steve Jobs")
    • Hot potato bit and playful warm-up
    • Chris sets the plan: lessons, wins/fails, possible game at the end
  2. 3:04 – 6:08

    Johnny’s Lesson #1: Subtraction, essentialism, and reclaiming bandwidth

    Jonny reflects on starting 2020 by constantly adding self-improvement habits, then dropping most of them. His takeaway is an 80/20 approach—simplify across life (habits, wardrobe, apps) to get similar or better results with fewer moving parts.

    • Self-improvement becomes overly additive (cold showers, breathwork, ROMWOD, etc.)
    • Applying the 80/20 principle to reduce complexity
    • Simplifying routines to regain “bandwidth” and reduce cognitive load
    • Example: morning routine becomes primarily longer meditation
  3. 6:08 – 11:44

    Testing habits by removing them: the “personal development elimination diet”

    The group explores how to evaluate whether routines actually help. Jonny argues you should temporarily remove habits to test their real impact, because stacking many habits makes it hard to know what’s working.

    • Take habits away to verify whether they matter (causality vs. correlation)
    • Morning routines can lock in habits, but may also preserve unnecessary ones
    • Injuries and outcomes don’t always change after dropping a practice (frustrating delayed effects)
    • Analogy: elimination diet applied to personal development
  4. 11:44 – 16:42

    Solitude as a skill: why 2020 exposed discomfort with being alone

    Yusef’s first major lesson is that many people struggled in 2020 because they weren’t comfortable with their own company. The group discusses solitary confinement as an extreme example, and frames solitude tolerance as a long-term capacity—not a quick hack.

    • Pandemic amplified mental health issues and removed distractions
    • Solitude reveals what people have “tucked away” emotionally
    • Comfort with oneself is cultivated slowly, not via hacks
    • Chris notes introverts gained an unusual advantage in 2020
  5. 16:42 – 19:31

    What counts as real solitude (Cal Newport), boredom, and phone-driven hyper-stimulation

    Chris introduces Cal Newport’s definition of solitude: time away from the input of other minds. They argue that phones and double-screening have eliminated boredom and reduced people’s ability to sit quietly without stimulation.

    • Solitude ≠ Netflix + scrolling or driving while calling friends
    • Phones create habitual checking and eliminate boredom
    • Practical trick: keep phone in a different pocket to disrupt habit loops
    • Double-screening reflects escalating dopamine demands and desensitization
  6. 19:31 – 25:57

    How to practice solitude: progressive overload and letting it in

    Pressed for actionable advice, Yusef recommends deliberately scheduling true solitude—like walking without the phone—to build tolerance. Chris supports a “progressive overload” approach: gradually increasing uninterrupted, low-input time.

    • Counterintuitive solution: stop avoiding solitude; lean into it
    • Start small and extend duration over time (30 → 60 → 90 minutes)
    • Solitude can become actively pleasurable once trained
    • Clarifying “solitude” prevents diluted pseudo-socialization
  7. 25:57 – 32:46

    Chris’s Lesson #1: The power of rest and the “personal breakpoint” reset

    Chris explains that even after focusing his work on fewer projects, he still tended to overwork. A trip away (Dubai) created perspective and a “personal breakpoint”—a deliberate reset between intense periods—leading to renewed happiness and clarity at home.

    • Type A overwork persists even with fewer projects
    • Change of environment breaks Groundhog Day monotony
    • Special forces “break point” idea applied to personal life
    • Rest enables first-principles review of routines and priorities
  8. 32:46 – 37:57

    Micro-breakpoints at work: why “go for a poo” is a legitimate reset

    Yusef applies breakpoint logic to hospital on-call shifts: relentless demands require intentional pauses to keep stress manageable. The conversation turns comedic, but the point remains: small interruptions can prevent cortisol-driven spirals and restore performance.

    • On-call shifts create continuous stress and decision fatigue
    • Short breaks prevent escalating cortisol and burnout
    • Humorous but practical: schedule a reset even if you don’t “need” it
    • Anecdote: hospital emergency cord / “more steam” mishaps
  9. 37:57 – 45:25

    Johnny’s Lesson #2: Meditation as the foundation for awareness and better decisions

    Jonny argues meditation isn’t just another habit—it improves awareness of emotions, fatigue, and when to stop working. He discusses different approaches (Shinzen Young noting, Gary Weber self-inquiry) and emphasizes consistent, adequately long practice over “method hopping.”

    • Meditation improves self-awareness and reduces identification with anxiety
    • Consistency matters more than endlessly switching techniques
    • Gary Weber’s high bar (e.g., ~35 minutes) vs. minimum effective dose debate
    • Recommendations: Chasing the Present; guided practices; “just do 30 minutes/day”
  10. 45:25 – 57:00

    Yusef’s Lesson #2: 2020 and the rise of the confidently wrong

    Yusef critiques the surge of online “health experts,” conspiracies, and certainty-driven misinformation. The group discusses how algorithms reward confidence over nuance, why certainty is mistaken for expertise, and the need to hold opinions lightly and update with evidence.

    • Misinformation exploits fear (immune-boosting claims, extreme predictions)
    • Social media rewards outrage and certainty, punishes nuance
    • Heuristic: if one opinion predicts all others, it’s ideological packaging
    • Practical filter: go to primary sources and credible expert explainers (e.g., Attia + FDA vaccine expert)
  11. 57:00 – 1:01:22

    Chris’s Lesson #2: You’re more resilient than you think (injury and perspective)

    Chris closes with a lesson drawn from rupturing his Achilles: the fear of catastrophe often exceeds reality. He describes discovering unexpected fortitude during recovery and argues that “future you” is better equipped to handle hardships than “worrying you” imagines.

    • Catastrophic thinking vs. actual coping capacity
    • Hard experiences reset expectations and reveal hidden resilience
    • Stoicism/mindfulness helps endure discomfort and uncertainty
    • Reframing: trust future you to pay the bill, fix the problem, and adapt
  12. 1:01:22 – 1:03:11

    Wrap-up: postponed “bear or bull,” gratitude, and closing plugs

    As time runs out, they shelve the “bear or bull” game for a future episode and invite topic suggestions. Chris thanks Jonny and Yusef, shares appreciation for their friendship, plugs Propane Fitness resources, and ends with Christmas wishes.

    • “Bear or bull” concept teased and deferred
    • Friendship appreciation and hopes to record more together
    • Propane Fitness links and resources mentioned
    • Holiday sign-off and teaser for upcoming end-of-year review episode

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