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Jonny & Yusef from PropaneFitness.com join me this week as we delve into the world of confidence. Expect to learn whether confidence is an innate talent or a skill that can be learned, what principles we have implemented to improve our confidence, what the term "self conscious" truly means, and why Jonny has been bullied into growing a top knot. - Listen to all episodes online. Search "Modern Wisdom" on any Podcast App or click here: iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/modern-wisdom/id1347973549 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0XrOqvxlqQI6bmdYHuIVnr?si=iUpczE97SJqe1kNdYBipnw Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/modern-wisdom - I want to hear from you!! Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Email: modernwisdompodcast@gmail.com

Chris WilliamsonhostYusef (Propane Fitness)guestJonny (Propane Fitness)guest
Jun 8, 20181h 43mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:0015:00

    Um, the depth of…

    1. CW

      Um, the depth of aluminum. Thickness. Yes.

    2. YF

      Okay. (laughs)

    3. CW

      (laughs)

    4. YF

      I'm such a pedant when I'm talking to Chris.

    5. CW

      You are. (laughs) But I like it, you're holding me to-

    6. YF

      Now, Chris, you've said that sentence, but what do you actually mean?

    7. CW

      'Cause he said the other day that someone was the pariah of- And I meant pa- I meant paragon. Yeah.

    8. JF

      (laughs)

    9. CW

      I'm gonna use paragon, paragon as well.

    10. JF

      (laughs)

    11. CW

      (laughs) You pulled me up about it, there wasn't even anyone else here. The thing is, he's brutal. Like, I'll, I'll write a piece of content and he goes through and there'll be one typo and he's like... He spots it straight away.

    12. YF

      Batter again. Throw it out. (laughs)

    13. CW

      (laughs) I sent a, I sent an article for Muslim Fitness off to a couple friends.

    14. YF

      Muslim Fitness? (laughs)

    15. JF

      (laughs)

    16. CW

      Muslim Fitness did you just call it? Yeah. That's what it's called, isn't it?

    17. YF

      Muslim Fitness.

    18. CW

      (laughs) Oh, Muslim Fitness. Muslim Fitness. (laughs) Is there actually a-

    19. YF

      I bet there is.

    20. CW

      This tastes different to the other day. Same one. Weird. Tastes like pear. It's not pear.

    21. YF

      It hardly really is pear.

    22. CW

      I mean, it says on the front. Apple. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

    23. YF

      The pear one's lovely.

    24. CW

      Yeah, very caffeinated though. Heavily caffeinated. Yeah. That's the thing, you, you are at risk because of your severe- (laughs) ... and chronic- I feel like I'm trying to dock a spaceship-

    25. JF

      (laughs)

    26. CW

      ... with it. Let's not, 'cause we talked about docking last time and it, it went on for ages.

    27. YF

      Oh, yeah.

    28. CW

      Um-

    29. YF

      Love docking.

    30. CW

      ... so we've got a choice of what we're gonna talk about today. I think confidence. No, hold on. What were you, what were you saying? Chris said pariah. Oh, is, oh, is that the end of it? I meant paragon.

  2. 15:0030:00

    ... You're very good…

    1. YF

    2. CW

      ... You're very good at that. Very good.

    3. YF

      At (laughs) embracing silliness?

    4. CW

      Yeah.

    5. YF

      So, uh, I think that he was saying, like, y- we all, as soon as we recognize that and we stop holding ourselves to the standards of our strengths-

    6. CW

      Mm-hmm.

    7. YF

      ... and we realize that if you, if you're in a foreign country and you ask someone for directions thinking that you're gonna get shot down because they'll be like, "Oh, what a prick, the silly tourist."

    8. CW

      Yeah.

    9. YF

      And you just accept that that's the case anyway, then it's a pleasant surprise if you don't, it's a, it's quite stoic, which kind of makes sense. But I, I think if you focus your attention way too much on how silly and crap you are, as Brits, we're already very good at that I think.

    10. CW

      Yeah.

    11. YF

      And so the tendency then is to become so self-deprecating-

    12. CW

      Yeah.

    13. YF

      ... that it almost becomes a, a reality or a truth. And we know that the, you know, uh, and to try and say this in the least esoteric terms of like, "What you focus on becomes your reality, man."

    14. CW

      (laughs)

    15. YF

      But like the, the reticular activating system in your brain will seek patterns in the sense that even if you listening right now, if you look around in your room for anything red, suddenly your brain tunes into all red items and tunes out everything else. And if you close your eyes and then say, "Right, tell me what things in your room were blue," you've tuned out them and you didn't notice them.

    16. CW

      Mm-hmm.

    17. YF

      Because they'd already, you were focusing on something else.

    18. CW

      Yeah.

    19. YF

      And so, I think-

    20. CW

      Is this like the, it's like think of something you're grateful for argument? You know, like (laughs) you know, like, the gratitude journal is if you are focusing on being grateful, then you can't be anxious or ...

    21. YF

      I definitely feel there's sort of ...

    22. CW

      ... You know, there's ...

    23. YF

      ... a frame.

    24. CW

      I'm aware this is a little bit of a departure, but the, um, doing a gratitude journal is, I've only done it for the first time this year. And the only way I've been able to do it is by buying one that only requires three minutes on a morning and three minutes at night. Of-

    25. YF

      You bought the palm off of the five-minute journal, didn't you?

    26. CW

      I did. It's called the six-minute diary.

    27. NA

      (laughs)

    28. CW

      Yeah.

    29. YF

      It's unbelievable, isn't it?

    30. CW

      Absolutely. How, how someone hasn't gone cease and desist letter, like, express overnight mail. It's the five minute, five-minute journals-

  3. 30:0045:00

    Oh, yeah. (laughs) …

    1. YF

      confident that it wouldn't go off and s-

    2. CW

      Oh, yeah. (laughs)

    3. YF

      Um, can you go turn it off, please?

    4. JF

      I'm confident that I can't.

    5. YF

      (laughs) So do you think that, given what you said before about being able to put yourself up, out on the, out on the rail, I suppose-

    6. CW

      Mm-hmm.

    7. YF

      ... is seeking advice from other people... where, where does that fit in?

    8. JF

      Can we, can we just stay on the truth thing for a sec, or do you wanna come back to the truth thing?

    9. YF

      No, no, go for it.

    10. JF

      So I know you don't like him.... but Garrett J. White.

    11. CW

      (laughs)

    12. JF

      (laughs) His fundamental number one principle is-

    13. CW

      Very briefly, tell us who Garrett J. White is.

    14. JF

      He's a, he runs a, like a program that is pretty much geared at helping men who are successful in other areas of their life become four-dimensional-

    15. CW

      Okay.

    16. JF

      ... as he calls it. So-

    17. CW

      Sorry.

    18. JF

      ... people who put-

    19. YF

      Overweight businessmen who are divorced or failing marriages-

    20. JF

      Mm-hmm.

    21. YF

      ... but are very rich, but maybe haven't got the other dimensions of their life.

    22. CW

      Okay.

    23. JF

      Yeah. So-

    24. CW

      So what does he say about ...

    25. JF

      So his, his core starting point is to stop lying and to start telling the truth about, like, the way that you feel, what you want, what's going on.

    26. CW

      Why?

    27. JF

      He feels that people experience a, an unpleasant reality and sedate away from what's actually happening.

    28. CW

      100%.

    29. JF

      So rather than, like, "Okay, I'm fat. My marriage is shit. I hate my kids. My job's just this place I go to, to numb out. I take loads of drugs. I get drunk on the weekend." It's like just avoiding the pain rather than stepping into the ring.

    30. YF

      I was gonna say, that's a very American thing to go, "How are you, sir?" "Oh, fantastic."

  4. 45:001:00:00

    Mm-hmm. …

    1. YF

      of approval, control and safety, give rise to ... So they're like the trunks of the tree, which is the analogy they use, give rise to the emotions which stem from wanting approval, control, or safety, and if those things are challenged, and then they create, they provide the soil for the thoughts to come out.

    2. CW

      Mm-hmm.

    3. YF

      I'm mixing analogies, but dr- basically tree trunk, desires, tree branches, emotions, leaves are thoughts.

    4. CW

      Okay.

    5. YF

      And so, for example, I used to be very nervous on camera because Johnny and I started Propain Fitness as a written blog, and we were just writing articles, and then suddenly we were like, "Oh, actually-"

    6. CW

      Safe behind a screen, right?

    7. YF

      Safe behind a screen. We were just keyboard warriors that didn't lift and we were, you know ... (laughs) Um, but then we, we were like, okay, you know, the first step is you put up a topless photo online. It's a little bit scary, especially when people are looking at it in the office and so on.

    8. CW

      Mm.

    9. YF

      Then it was like, right, we need to do podcasts and videos. First time I did a video, I remember being petrified, had to re-record 25 times, and any little stumble I'd be like, "Oh, no, I'm gonna edit it out and stuff, or re-record."

    10. CW

      Yeah.

    11. YF

      And over time, I think just from a purely evolutionary or physiological basis that you, you apply repeated scary stimuli, you become less-

    12. CW

      (laughs)

    13. YF

      ... um, sensitive to them.

    14. CW

      Mm-hmm.

    15. YF

      And now, there's no fear to doing video, you know-

    16. CW

      Mm-hmm.

    17. YF

      ... th- of, things like a live video where you see the, the little green light and you're like-

    18. CW

      Bing!

    19. YF

      ... "Right, 15,000 people, you're on. If you fuck up, like, that's it, you just have to roll with it."

    20. CW

      Mm-hmm, yeah.

    21. YF

      Um, and I remember that being really scary. But what's happened is, on a neurochemical basis, you are less reactive to that scary stimulus, and then as a result, your mind starts then justifying more positive thought patterns which are, "You know what? It doesn't matter. It's natural. Everyone messes up, everyone stumbles over things," or whatever it is that your, your mi- ... So it's not that you changed your thoughts and therefore you became less fearful.

    22. CW

      Mm-hmm.

    23. YF

      It's that you changed the feeling, and then your thoughts about the subject changed as a result.

    24. CW

      Yeah.

    25. JF

      It's all right, though.

    26. CW

      It's a lovely, lovely, lovely concept.

    27. JF

      I remember ... I remember feeling like you were saying first few videos, like, "Oh my god, what if this goes wrong?"

    28. CW

      Yeah.

    29. JF

      And now if something goes wrong, my first thought usually is like, if anyone takes the piss, like, "You do-"

    30. CW

      Good. (laughs)

  5. 1:00:001:09:14

    Especially with the internet,…

    1. CW

      Why We're Fated to be Lonely, which is a, a YouTube video done by Alain de Botton from School of Life. And as a part of that, one of the things he says is that the more subtle and, uh, the more subtle and, um, unique, like the more subtle and mindful your views are, the fewer people are going to be like you in society. And given the choice between honesty and acceptability- Mm. ... most of us understandably choose the latter. But again with that, if you have this multifaceted, slightly contrary, slightly subtle different worldview, presuming that it's not going to offend anyone or get you in jail, might be an idea to try and speak it forth because it'll open up some other people's eyes. And we hav-

    2. YF

      Especially with the internet, you will find people that resonate with you, 100%.

    3. CW

      Oh, 100%, across time.

    4. JF

      You can't find people who love you.

    5. YF

      Mm.

    6. JF

      People who hate you and people who love you.

    7. CW

      Yeah, it polarizes opinion.

    8. JF

      Mm-hmm.

    9. CW

      Um, one of the things we haven't really touched on yet, I don't think at all in this, I think the podcast we star- I started doing Modern Wisdom-... post, in the post-JBP world.

    10. JF

      Mm-hmm.

    11. CW

      So Jordan Peterson, who has been a guiding force for me in understanding, um, myself, and I think you guys to a degree as well, one of the key, um, (laughs) , one of the key habits that he asks people to cultivate is to clean up their room. And what he says is that-

    12. JF

      "Oh, bloody hell, clean your room." I mean, people think these, these kids, they're, they're 18 and, and they, they want to go out and change the world and they've got dirty socks in their room.

    13. CW

      (laughs)

    14. JF

      How can you opine about the economic state of the world when you can't even clean your room? I mean-

    15. CW

      So what he says is, what he says is that, um, your bedroom is y- a domain of competence within everybody's capacity, so-

    16. JF

      Mm.

    17. CW

      ... everyone can clean their room. Like, unless you're one of the people, those people out of, like, Hoarders, like, you can clean your room.

    18. JF

      You could have a disability.

    19. CW

      Okay.

    20. JF

      (laughs)

    21. CW

      Thanks.

    22. JF

      (laughs)

    23. CW

      That's just made me feel really-

    24. JF

      (laughs) In the same ...

    25. CW

      There's never a way to shame confidence.

    26. JF

      (laughs)

    27. CW

      Um, most people, a large majority of people, can clean their room and might-

    28. JF

      Might be blind.

    29. CW

      Thanks, Johnny.

    30. JF

      (laughs) .

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