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The Broken Promises Of The Sexual Revolution - Mary Eberstadt

Mary Eberstadt is a senior fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center and an author. We're told that more freedom is a good thing. That the more options and choices a person has, the better their life will be. With this in mind, the sexual revolution should have been one of the biggest improvements ever for women and their quality of life, but all might not be quite as rosy as it seems. Expect to learn who really benefitted from the sexual revolution, how the introduction of the pill increased the number of single mothers, where Mary thinks the newfound psychological fragility of young people is coming from, whether inventing hormonal birth control reduced or increased the number of abortions, why so many people are checking out of dating and much more... Sponsors: Get 20% discount on Nomatic’s amazing luggage at https://nomatic.com/modernwisdom (use code MODERNWISDOM) Get $150/£150 discount on the Eight Sleep Pod Cover at https://eightsleep.com/modernwisdom (discount automatically applied) Get a Free Sample Pack of all LMNT Flavours with your first box at https://www.drinklmnt.com/modernwisdom (automatically applied at checkout) Extra Stuff: Get my free Reading List of 100 books to read before you die → https://chriswillx.com/books/ To support me on Patreon (thank you): https://www.patreon.com/modernwisdom #dating #women #freedom - 00:00 The Biggest Winners & Losers of the Sexual Revolution 03:07 Did the Pill Increase Abortions? 06:56 Would the Sexual Revolution Happen Without the Pill? 12:55 Did the Sexual Revolution Fail Children? 17:18 Feminism Is Failing Women 24:36 Why Young Girls Are Struggling 29:43 Advice to People Who Think Kids Are Restrictive 35:09 Interacting with the Other Sex in a Non-Sexual Way 40:02 Can Men & Women Work Together to Find a Better Way? 45:43 Society’s Disdain for Sexual Morality 50:29 How the Sexual Revolution Relates to Identity Politics 56:16 People Are Struggling & Need Sympathy 1:07:16 Where to Find Mary - Get access to every episode 10 hours before YouTube by subscribing for free on Spotify - https://spoti.fi/2LSimPn or Apple Podcasts - https://apple.co/2MNqIgw Get my free Reading List of 100 life-changing books here - https://chriswillx.com/books/ - Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact/

Chris WilliamsonhostMary Eberstadtguest
Oct 26, 20231h 7mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 0:47

    Who benefits from the sexual revolution—and who pays the price?

    Mary Eberstadt argues the sexual revolution’s biggest beneficiaries have been men—especially predatory men—while the biggest losses have fallen on romance, non-predatory men, women, and children. She frames her work as an attempt to explain the “paradoxical fallout” using secular social science rather than religious argument.

    • Biggest winners: men, particularly predatory men
    • Biggest losers: romance, women, children, and decent men
    • Early optimism about the Pill contrasted with later outcomes
    • Her books aim to explain second- and third-order consequences
    • Critique presented as secular and evidence-based, not theological
  2. 0:47 – 3:05

    The Pill’s broken promises: marriage weakened, divorce and abortion rise

    Eberstadt revisits early 1960s hopes that reliable contraception would strengthen marriage and reduce abortion. She claims the opposite followed: divorce rose sharply, cohabitation increased, and abortion rates climbed into the millions.

    • 1960s expectations: stronger marriage, fewer abortions
    • Observed trends: higher divorce and later cohabitation
    • Abortion rates increase after widespread contraception adoption
    • Cultural shift is described as large-scale and multi-domain
    • Pushes back on the idea that critique belongs only to religious circles
  3. 3:05 – 4:35

    Why contraception can increase abortion: responsibility shifts to women

    She contends contraception changes the perceived intentionality around pregnancy, making pregnancy seem like a woman’s “failure.” This shift, she says, reduced social pressure on men to take responsibility and helped end the era of the “shotgun wedding.”

    • Contraception reframes unplanned pregnancy as a woman’s responsibility
    • Pre-Pill norm: pregnancy was a problem for two people
    • Post-Pill norm: expectation that she should prevent pregnancy
    • Decline of the “shotgun wedding” as a cultural signal
    • Abortion becomes a downstream ‘solution’ in this framework
  4. 4:35 – 7:26

    Men sidelined: the decline of fatherhood and the provider-protector role

    Drawing on sociologist Lionel Tiger, Eberstadt argues that when reproduction becomes culturally centered on female control and autonomy, men lose a valued social role. She links this to the proliferation of fatherless homes and diminished incentives for men to be protectors and providers.

    • Lionel Tiger’s 'The Decline of Males' as a key reference
    • Male role diminished when reproduction is seen as autonomous
    • Erosion of the provider/protector/father expectation
    • Growth of single-parent (often fatherless) households
    • Autonomy as the revolution’s central cultural message
  5. 7:26 – 12:54

    Could the sexual revolution exist without the Pill? The ‘sex without consequences’ dynamic

    Eberstadt defines the sexual revolution as beginning with the Pill’s approval and rapid Western adoption, which destigmatized non-marital sex. She emphasizes empathy for why it took hold—while insisting its net effect has been more harmful than beneficial.

    • Sexual revolution tied to Pill’s introduction and adoption
    • Destigmatization of non-marital sex follows technological change
    • “Sex without consequences” as a powerful human motivator
    • Critics are often accused of wanting to ‘go back to the 1950s’
    • Her claim: overall net negative despite understandable appeal
  6. 12:54 – 14:38

    Children as the overlooked casualties: pop culture as evidence of family breakdown

    Eberstadt and Williamson shift focus to whether the sexual revolution failed children. She uses 1990s music (e.g., Eminem, Tupac) as a lens showing anger, grief, and distrust stemming from absent fathers and unstable homes.

    • Public debates often ignore children because it’s ‘too depressing’
    • 1990s lyrics highlight father absence and adult dysfunction
    • Tupac’s 'Papa’s Song' as an emblem of paternal loss
    • Music resonates because millions of kids share similar experiences
    • Misogyny exists in genres, but she urges looking beneath it
  7. 14:38 – 15:57

    Divorce, cohabitation, and child risk: what the social science shows

    She argues divorce surged in the 1970s–80s and later stabilized partly because fewer people marry at all. Eberstadt stresses that cohabiting relationships are statistically less stable and that child abuse risks are highest in homes without a biological father.

    • Divorce spikes historically; later ‘stabilizes’ as marriage declines
    • Cohabitation rises and is linked to higher breakup likelihood
    • Child abuse risk highest in homes without a biological father
    • These findings are presented as well-established in social science
    • Acknowledges this indicts society, not individual families
  8. 15:57 – 18:04

    Why the topic became taboo: the ‘out-of-control party’ and cultural omertà

    Williamson asks why such data became culturally fraught; Eberstadt describes a long period of silence where few wanted to be the first to criticize the revolution’s downsides. She argues the taboo is breaking as mainstream, non-religious voices increasingly engage the evidence.

    • Discussion long repressed despite demographic/social science data
    • Metaphor: the party is out of control, nobody wants to ‘snitch’
    • Fear of stigma kept critique confined to a ‘religious ghetto’
    • Now more mainstream debate is emerging across the West
    • Framing shift: from moralizing to examining fallout
  9. 18:04 – 24:36

    Feminism’s ‘wrong turn’: pornography, OnlyFans, and the pleasure vs happiness gap

    Eberstadt claims feminism increasingly adopted a libertarian sexual ethic that benefited men, especially by normalizing pornography. She distinguishes short-term pleasure from long-term fulfillment, arguing the sexual marketplace dynamics make marriage and family harder to secure for many women.

    • Earlier feminists opposed porn; later feminist voices defended it
    • Pornography framed as harmful to relationships and romance
    • Pleasure becomes easier; long-term happiness becomes harder
    • A ‘flooded’ sexual marketplace reduces male incentives to commit
    • Economic research cited in her work on mating-market incentives
  10. 24:36 – 29:42

    Lowered standards and ‘human subtraction’: why young girls are struggling

    Eberstadt links rising anxiety and depression—especially among girls—to loneliness amplified by social media, but rooted in earlier family shrinkage. She describes the sexual revolution as subtracting people through abortion, breakup, and fatherlessness, reducing social learning and secure attachments.

    • Social media ‘gasoline’ on a pre-existing fire
    • Human subtraction: fewer relatives, fewer siblings, more father absence
    • Reduced everyday social knowledge about the opposite sex and caregiving
    • Mental health decline predates the internet and continues rising
    • Loneliness as a central explanatory factor
  11. 29:42 – 35:04

    Caregiving as a humanizing skill: why kids aren’t ‘restrictive’ but formative

    Responding to the idea that children restrict freedom, Eberstadt argues nurture is a muscle that atrophies without use. She contends that caring for others deepens humanity and that modern life often deprives people of formative caregiving exposure (babies, elders, extended family).

    • Argument to career-focused skeptics: nurture is like a muscle
    • Modern families provide fewer chances to learn caregiving
    • Example: new parents lacking basic baby-care familiarity
    • Social science alone doesn’t persuade; meaning and language matter
    • Claim: caring for others improves long-term wellbeing
  12. 35:04 – 50:28

    Relearning non-sexual cross-sex interaction: family as ‘training wheels’

    Williamson proposes that extended families historically provided low-stakes practice interacting with the opposite sex, improving later romantic competence. Eberstadt agrees and adds that contemporary hostility between sexes may mask insecurity and ignorance born from diminished family exposure.

    • Extended family as low-stakes cross-sex socialization
    • Lack of siblings/fathers reduces comfort and knowledge about the other sex
    • Online misogyny and belligerent rhetoric as insecurity cover
    • Not framed as individuals’ fault—gives ‘permission’ to see structural causes
    • Goal: reduce adversarial ‘anti-mating’ culture between sexes
  13. 50:28 – 56:16

    From family implosion to identity politics and gender confusion

    Eberstadt traces “identity politics” to a 1977 manifesto and argues it reflects a search for substitute belonging after family fragmentation. She suggests disconnected people seek tribes for protection and validation, and speculates that reduced social knowledge and fatherlessness may contribute to contemporary gender and identity confusion.

    • Origin of the term ‘identity politics’ linked to 1977 Combahee statement
    • Groups become ‘chosen families’ replacing weakened kin networks
    • Loneliness and online validation reinforce group absolutism
    • Family complexity/shrinkage makes relational identity harder to anchor
    • Speculative link: disconnection and fatherlessness may intensify gender confusion
  14. 56:16 – 1:07:13

    Compassion as the starting point: loneliness studies, addiction, and a path to ‘re-norming’

    They close by emphasizing sympathy for people struggling amid rapid social and technological change. Eberstadt points to declining life expectancy, addiction, and elder loneliness as further signs of a “love deficit,” arguing the first step toward repair is listening and rebuilding norms—especially around screens and social life.

    • Felt confusion and lack of archetypes for millennials/Gen Z
    • Hope for re-norming around social media (analogies to gin/tobacco)
    • Life expectancy decline and drug deaths as symptoms of a ‘hole’
    • Loneliness studies highlight isolated elders as family ties weaken
    • “Starting” means listening, empathy, and offering redemption vs cancellation
  15. 1:07:13 – 1:07:47

    Where to find Mary Eberstadt

    Eberstadt shares where listeners can follow her work and find her books and articles. Williamson closes the episode with thanks and a prompt to view more clips and subscribe.

    • Website: maryeberstadt.com
    • Books, articles, speeches available online
    • Books also available via Amazon
    • Episode wrap-up and closing thanks

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