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The Catastrophic Story Of WeWork | Reeves Wiedeman | Modern Wisdom Podcast 238

Reeves Wiedeman is an author and a Contributing Editor for New York Magazine. At one point, WeWork was one of the world's highest ever valued private companies on earth. Now it's in free fall. Expect to learn why WeWork was so overvalued, where it got all it's capital from, the fundamental flaw in the business model, how personality & charm can overcome objections, what we can learn from Silicon Valley's biggest failures and much more... Sponsor: Get Surfshark VPN at https://surfshark.deals/MODERNWISDOM (Enter promo code MODERNWISDOM for 83% off and 3 Months Free) Extra Stuff: Buy Billion Dollar Loser - https://amzn.to/33Nn2lI Follow Reeves on Twitter - https://twitter.com/reeveswiedeman Get my free Ultimate Life Hacks List to 10x your daily productivity → https://chriswillx.com/lifehacks/ To support me on Patreon (thank you): https://www.patreon.com/modernwisdom #wework #startup #investing - Listen to all episodes online. Search "Modern Wisdom" on any Podcast App or click here: iTunes: https://apple.co/2MNqIgw Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2LSimPn Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/modern-wisdom - Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx Email: modernwisdompodcast@gmail.com

Reeves WiedemanguestChris Williamsonhost
Oct 29, 20201h 2mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 0:30

    Adam Neumann’s high-risk temperament: “Millionaire or jail”

    Reeves frames Adam Neumann as someone whose personality was always tilted toward extreme outcomes—big wins or spectacular failure. This sets the tone for how WeWork could become both a massive success story and a cautionary tale at the same time.

  2. 0:30 – 0:58

    What Reeves researched: WeWork and the broader unicorn-startup era

    Chris asks what Reeves has been working on, and Reeves positions WeWork within the larger world of high-growth “unicorn” startups. The conversation broadens from one company to the culture and incentives that shaped a decade of venture-backed growth.

  3. 0:58 – 3:30

    Unicorns, decacorns, and the private-valuation game

    They define “unicorn” and extend the taxonomy to “decacorns,” highlighting how private valuations can grow far beyond traditional market scrutiny. The segment underscores how companies can appear “magical” before public markets impose discipline.

  4. 3:30 – 9:08

    Scooter wars as a preview: valuations vs real-world constraints

    A tangent about Bird/Lime becomes a useful analogy: companies can achieve enormous valuations even when products and regulation are messy. Reeves notes that unlike pure software, physical-world startups collide with cities, politics, and public safety.

  5. 9:08 – 11:27

    WeWork in plain terms: what it is and why it took off in 2008–2010

    Reeves gives the CliffsNotes on WeWork’s origin: a recession-era coworking/leasing concept that matched a moment of layoffs, freelancing, and hunger for community. What started as slicing office space into smaller units quickly became a global brand.

  6. 11:27 – 13:58

    Mission creep and mythmaking: from real estate to “elevate the world’s consciousness”

    WeWork’s story shifts from coworking into a grand narrative: tech company, community company, and even a quasi-spiritual mission. Reeves lists the expansion into apartments, gyms, and an elementary school—wrapped in language that blurred what the company actually did.

  7. 13:58 – 15:45

    How the IPO process works—and why WeWork’s attempt collapsed

    Reeves explains that an IPO is fundamentally a capital-raising event, not just a public popularity contest. WeWork needed billions, but investor appetite evaporated as the S-1 revealed losses, governance issues, and a story investors didn’t trust.

  8. 15:45 – 26:05

    Adam Neumann the leader: charisma, persuasion, and the Fyre Festival connection

    They explore Neumann’s strengths as a CEO—his ability to sell belief to investors, landlords, and employees—while comparing that charisma to other infamous founders. Reeves adds reporting color by describing his call with Billy McFarland and WeWork’s near-deal to buy Magnises.

  9. 26:05 – 35:27

    The scale of WeWork + SoftBank’s jet fuel: Masa Son and the Vision Fund

    Reeves quantifies WeWork’s global footprint by 2019, then explains how fundraising—especially SoftBank—enabled unprecedented physical expansion. Masa Son’s $100B Vision Fund and gut-driven investing style become pivotal to WeWork’s acceleration and instability.

  10. 35:27 – 42:16

    The actual business model: rent arbitrage dressed up as tech

    They strip WeWork down to fundamentals: long-term leases in, short-term memberships out—classic real-estate risk amplified by flexibility. Reeves emphasizes the core vulnerability: downturns cause revenue to evaporate while lease obligations remain.

  11. 42:16 – 52:04

    The downfall timeline: IPO sprint, bizarre S-1 tone, and ‘quirks’ turned liabilities

    Reeves recounts the frantic period from April 2019 to the S-1 release, when scrutiny intensified and sentiment flipped. The S-1’s quasi-spiritual language, Neumann’s control, and lifestyle optics (weed, barefoot leadership, side investments) made investors question governance and reality.

  12. 52:04 – 1:02:01

    What to learn: charisma vs charlatanism, social media, and Theranos parallels

    The conversation closes on broader lessons: society’s susceptibility to cults of personality, the scaling of clout through social media, and the need for stronger skepticism and governance. Reeves compares WeWork to Theranos—less fraudulent, but similarly enabled by information silos and weak oversight.

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