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The Scary Future Of Robot Sex & Artificial Love - Roanne van Voorst

Roanne van Voorst is an anthropologist, researcher and an author. Given that people are already struggling to find partners in the modern world, what does the future of love have in store? Is it AI girlfriends, rent-a-friends and sex robots? Or a return to something more natural? Expect to learn what is happening with modern sexuality, what the future of sex work may look like, whether polyamory is going to become more popular, why so many young people aren’t having as much sex as they used to, what it's like to go to a sex doll brothel, what a better definition of love is, what it's like to be in a virtual relationship and much more… - 00:00 Studying the Future of Human Sexuality 08:10 Roanne’s Research on Sex Dolls 14:57 Can Robots Convey Actual Connection? 21:09 The Love Pills Available on the Market 26:28 Are Love Pills the Same Effect as Alcohol? 30:40 The Experience of an Erotic Massage 35:56 The World of Virtual Relationships 41:48 Matching With a Partner Through DNA 47:14 Is Polyamory Actually Growing in Popularity? 53:31 Hanging Out With Asexual People 58:38 The Changing Definition of Love 1:00:46 Where to Find Roanne - Get access to every episode 10 hours before YouTube by subscribing for free on Spotify - https://spoti.fi/2LSimPn or Apple Podcasts - https://apple.co/2MNqIgw Get my free Reading List of 100 life-changing books here - https://chriswillx.com/books/ Try my productivity energy drink Neutonic here - https://neutonic.com/modernwisdom - Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact/

Chris WilliamsonhostRoanne van Voorstguest
May 11, 20241h 1mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 3:16

    Futures anthropology: how tech is reshaping sex, love, and intimacy

    Roanne explains what it means to be a “futures anthropologist” and how she studies tomorrow’s relationship norms by visiting places where the future is already visible. They frame modern sexuality as a move toward convenience and “frictionless” interaction, with both liberating and worrying consequences.

    • Studying the future via present-day ‘glimpses’ (sex-doll brothels, AI companions)
    • Technology offering ‘solutions’ to problems we didn’t know we had
    • A drift toward efficiency and reduced vulnerability/awkwardness
    • Positive angle: people designing nontraditional intimacy lives (friends as family, healthy aging sexuality)
  2. 3:16 – 6:21

    AI companionship as ‘friendly distraction’—and an emotional affair risk

    Roanne recounts testing an unreleased AI “friend” that proactively messages and mirrors her preferences. The ease and constant availability subtly crowds out real relationships, creating a hollow but comforting pseudo-connection.

    • AI companion lures users into frequent, boredom-driven engagement
    • Personalization makes interaction feel uncannily ‘right’
    • Comfort comes at the cost of time and attention for real friends
    • Validation without challenge can stunt growth (no honest pushback)
    • Partner noticing behavior as quasi ‘emotional affair’
  3. 6:21 – 8:13

    Frictionless convenience vs human spontaneity (Uber, small talk, social skills)

    They generalize the pattern beyond romance: convenience tech removes awkward interactions that can also be sources of joy and social learning. Roanne argues that losing spontaneity and micro-connections may reduce happiness over time.

    • Convenience replaces effortful interactions (calling a taxi vs app)
    • Avoiding awkwardness also removes chances for meaningful surprises
    • Studies suggest small spontaneous interactions boost happiness
    • Screen time displaces other life domains; social bandwidth is finite
    • Analogy: easy ‘wants’ aren’t always what’s good for us
  4. 8:13 – 12:48

    Inside sex-doll brothels: curiosity, discomfort, and the ‘efficiency’ promise

    Roanne describes visiting sex-doll-only brothels and renting a doll (“Nick”). The experience highlights the eerie realism, practical limitations, and the industry’s promise of perfectly optimized, user-controlled sex.

    • Industry and some feminists promote dolls as substitutes for human sex work
    • Skepticism about sales hype and normalization tactics
    • Brothel workflow: choose online, then meet doll in a room
    • Embodiment issues: dolls are heavy, hard to move, often uncanny/‘dead’
    • Core promise: “exactly what you want” via scripted words/movements
  5. 12:48 – 17:20

    Why ‘perfect’ partners can be boring—and a surprising link to democracy

    They argue that great sex and intimacy rely on surprise, negotiation, and being challenged by another person. Roanne warns that training only on compliant AIs/dolls could erode patience and social skills that matter beyond the bedroom, including for civic life.

    • Best intimacy often involves being surprised and ‘taken to another level’
    • Masturbation/optimization isn’t the peak because it lacks otherness
    • Real relationships provide daily practice in negotiation and empathy
    • Concern: removing push-pull reduces prosocial skills and tolerance
    • Industry response: adding scripted “no/headache” still isn’t real surprise
  6. 17:20 – 20:46

    Rent-a-friend: paid connection and the missing ingredient of mutual desire

    Roanne shares her experience renting a platonic companion and how it resembled the doll/AI dynamic. The interaction was smooth and supportive, but felt one-sided because she couldn’t trust the authenticity of the other person’s interest.

    • Renting friends for events (e.g., weddings) as a growing trend
    • Her rental: coffee with a paid ‘friend’ who was attentive and skilled
    • Cost (about €60/hour) and the sense of purchasing comfort
    • Afterward realization: no real reciprocity or shared vulnerability
    • Chris’s point: romance hinges on being chosen (pre-selection/status)
  7. 20:46 – 26:29

    Love pills in therapy: MDMA/ketamine as tools vs ‘manufacturing’ love

    They discuss substances used to increase openness and reduce fear in therapeutic contexts, especially for couples. Roanne sees potential when carefully facilitated, but draws a sharp line between assisted communication and attempts to pharmacologically create love itself.

    • Some ‘love pills’ are placebo-like or cause side effects; others alter openness
    • Therapist-guided use for relationship repair is increasing in parts of Europe
    • Value comes with proper facilitation, regulation, and integration
    • Not a weekly fix—can’t replace foundational communication skills
    • Strong skepticism toward scientific ambitions to engineer ‘falling in love’
  8. 26:29 – 30:40

    Where’s the line? Alcohol, libido peptides, and the ethics of enhancement

    Chris compares “love tech” to existing emotional modifiers like alcohol and coping behaviors (porn, phones, games). They explore emerging libido enhancers (e.g., PT-141) and how easy access and weak regulation complicate questions about acceptable optimization.

    • Alcohol as emotion-blunting ‘anti-love pill’ after breakups
    • Many ‘tools’ already shape intimacy: wine, lingerie, ambience
    • Discussion of PT-141/bremelanotide and non-FDA environments
    • Normalization of enhancement raises ‘how far should we push this?’
    • Risk and sourcing: unregulated supplements vs supervised interventions
  9. 30:40 – 35:56

    Erotic/tantra massage: women, safety, therapy framing, and the orgasm gap

    Roanne describes receiving a tantric vaginal massage and how skilled sex work can provide connection without awkwardness. They discuss why erotic massages may be rising among women, including empowerment narratives and promises to ‘fix’ blocked sexuality.

    • Experience parallels rent-a-friend: comfort, humor, attentive professionalism
    • Tantra/vaginal massage framed as both therapeutic and sexual (orgasm-focused)
    • Growth in women seeking ‘happy ending’ services and self-care framing
    • Orgasm gap as a driver; desire for learning and deblocking
    • Personal takeaway: emotional clarity (being in love reduced interest in others)
  10. 35:56 – 41:47

    Virtual worlds & AI-assisted dating: anonymity, identity play, and hollow abundance

    Roanne reports spending weeks dating in VR worlds with avatars, highlighting anonymity, customizable bodies, and experimentation. Over time, the limitless identity flexibility and monetization make connections feel less grounded, even as long-term avatar friendships exist.

    • VR dating with avatars; buying entry/body features via crypto economies
    • Liberation through anonymity and being ‘someone else’
    • Downside: if someone can be anything, authenticity becomes uncertain
    • Hybrid stakes: real money spent; some platforms impose spending limits
    • AI dating coaching tools (voice dates, facial-expression analysis) and misreads
  11. 41:47 – 47:13

    DNA matchmaking & the hidden power of algorithms: outsourcing intuition

    They examine DNA-based compatibility tests and broader algorithmic matchmaking, critiquing genetic determinism and simplistic modeling. Roanne argues dating apps optimize for retention, narrow who you meet, and weaken presence on real dates by keeping alternatives salient.

    • DNA test mechanics (spit kit, report) and anxiety it can create for couples
    • Some services suggest baby/compatibility guidance; nature-over-nurture bias
    • Chris: kissing as ‘original’ compatibility test (immune system cues)
    • Dating apps’ opaque selection/de-selection and questionable scientific rigor
    • Business incentive: keep users swiping, not partnered—novelty undermines focus
  12. 47:13 – 53:31

    Polyamory in practice: scheduling, envy vs jealousy, and radical honesty

    Roanne’s fieldwork with polyamorous families emphasizes how demanding multi-partner intimacy is. While not for everyone, the communication norms—explicit needs, transparent feelings, and structured logistics—offer lessons that monogamous couples can borrow.

    • Interest in polyamory rising, but long-term adherence unclear
    • High workload: constant communication, emotional labor, time management
    • Logistics: shared digital calendars, explicit agreements
    • Distinction between jealousy and envy; complex feelings persist
    • Radical honesty reduces secrecy/infidelity but can reduce ‘mystery’
  13. 53:31 – 58:38

    Asexuality, ‘sologamy,’ and the risk of stress-induced withdrawal from love

    They discuss people opting out of conventional romance—some authentically thriving alone, others potentially rationalizing avoidance. Roanne worries that overstimulation and overwork (especially among young men in high-pressure environments) can make real intimacy feel impossible, not undesirable.

    • People increasingly ‘design’ intimacy: asexuality, solo lifestyles, chosen families
    • Chris’s concern: labels can become prestigious coping for emotional avoidance
    • Roanne’s two groups: genuinely content singles vs burned-out withdrawers
    • Overwork + constant stimulation reduces capacity for real connection
    • Potential tragedy: love/friendship might be available if stress load decreased
  14. 58:38 – 1:01:04

    What love is for humans: an essential need amid accelerating tech

    Roanne reframes love as fundamental as food and water, shaped by her prior work in conflict zones where people still fall in love in extreme conditions. She argues the need won’t disappear, but the forms will—so we must critically assess whether new tools truly help or just monetize attention.

    • Love persists even in war/refugee camps—deeply human and resilient
    • Technology changes the form: speed, distraction, efficiency, divided attention
    • Core need for intimacy remains stable despite new mediums
    • Critical question: does a tool solve your problem or the industry’s?
    • Optimism: even far-future humans will still fall in love
  15. 1:01:04 – 1:01:56

    Roanne’s current work and where to find her book and projects

    They close with Roanne sharing her current research focus and where to follow her work. She also mentions a monthly “radio play” style project and her book.

    • Leads research on the future of healthcare and digitization
    • Website: anthropologyofthefuture.com
    • Monthly audio essay/radio play project (‘The Emik’)
    • Book mentioned: ‘Six in a Bed’

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