What Is Life Like As A Pornstar? | Sienna Day | Modern Wisdom Podcast 101

Sienna Day is a pornstar. Kind of like chicken nuggets, everyone is familiar with porn but few of us understand how it's made. Today we get to find out. Expect to learn how you get started in the porn industry, what it's like on set, how you prep for anal, what is the optimal strategy for elongating your career, how to monetise a feature on Brazzers or FakeTaxi into a decentralised membership site, what 30 days of back-to-back DP feels like, and much more. This warning should be obvious but I'll put it just in case... This episode contains adult themes which some viewers may find offensive. - Listen to all episodes online. Search "Modern Wisdom" on any Podcast App or click here: iTunes: https://apple.co/2MNqIgw Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2LSimPn Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/modern-wisdom - Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx Email: modernwisdompodcast@gmail.com

Chris WilliamsonhostSienna DayguestYusef SmithhostJonny CoxhostHost (Propane Fitness co-host)host

Sep 9, 20191h 12mWatch on YouTube ↗

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0:00 – 2:17
Parental advisory & setting the tone for an unmonetizable episode
1. CWChris Williamson
  Sienna Day-
2. SDSienna Day
  Hello.
3. CWChris Williamson
  ... all the way from the adult-rated internet.
4. SDSienna Day
  (laughs) I worked with a guy that had the biggest pair of balls I've ever fucking seen in my life.
5. YSYusef Smith
  Ugh.
6. JCJonny Cox
  Time to go in, and then, and then-
7. SDSienna Day
  Then if it's anal, you'll go prep for anal.
8. CWChris Williamson
  What, what's, what's that?
9. SDSienna Day
  Anal.
10. YSYusef Smith
  (laughs)
11. CWChris Williamson
  What-
12. SDSienna Day
  Don't spit on the cock. Don't gag on the cock.
13. YSYusef Smith
  (laughs)
14. SDSienna Day
  Back in the office.
15. YSYusef Smith
  (laughs)
16. CWChris Williamson
  Is it, is it ... 'Cause obviously you're dealing with-
17. SDSienna Day
  Slide some ping-pongs up my ass.
18. CWChris Williamson
  How many guys do you reckon you've had sex with?
19. SDSienna Day
  A lot. With your back ass like that for, like, 12 hours of the day.
20. YSYusef Smith
  Yes. (laughs)
21. CWChris Williamson
  This video will not be monetized on YouTube. I've already accepted that.
22. SDSienna Day
  So weird to be in a room with, like, like I said, four men, cameras, and clothes on.
23. CWChris Williamson
  (laughs)
24. SDSienna Day
  It's like-
25. JCJonny Cox
  Just talking.
26. SDSienna Day
  ... you're just waiting for it to happen.
27. YSYusef Smith
  (laughs)
28. CWChris Williamson
  (laughs)
29. SDSienna Day
  And it just, it just isn't. This guy's having a wank while he filmed us-
30. YSYusef Smith
  Is the b- this is the, the, the wait-
2:17 – 5:26
How Sienna got into porn: from high libido to a deliberate career choice
1. CWChris Williamson
  I'm not, I'm not gonna hot potato you. So first question, first question that I want to ask: how'd you get into porn?
2. SDSienna Day
  Oh, it's the most boring question.
3. CWChris Williamson
  How the fuck do you get into porn? Everyone has sex-
4. YSYusef Smith
  You gotta start-
5. CWChris Williamson
  ... but not everyone does porn.
6. YSYusef Smith
  Start at the beginning.
7. CWChris Williamson
  Yeah, go start at the beginning.
8. SDSienna Day
  Right, the beginning. No, the problem was I was very, very horny all the time. (laughs) And I didn't just wanna be a slag, so I was thinking, "Right, I can't be doing that, there must be a way I can, like, make use of this, wanting to fuck everyone." And I'd done a bit of, like, webcam and stuff before. And then one of the, like, the guy I was seeing at the time was like, "Have you ever thought about porn?" And I was like-
9. CWChris Williamson
  How, how old were you?
10. SDSienna Day
  21.
11. CWChris Williamson
  Right.
12. SDSienna Day
  And so when ... I thought, do you know what I thought? I didn't actually used to watch much porn, except for this lesbian porn, um, with the strap-on, these tattooed girls. So I didn't really know too much about the industry and I thought, "Do you know what? I'm gonna do a little bit of research on it and then I ... " um, I did some and I thought, "Yeah, I'm gonna get into it. Surely can't be that hard." It fucking is. (laughs)
13. YSYusef Smith
  (laughs)
14. SDSienna Day
  It's not as easy as you think. (laughs)
15. CWChris Williamson
  Would you need to be licensed and, like, is there a training course, MBQ level two?
16. SDSienna Day
  No, but I, I think I could-
17. YSYusef Smith
  Level four.
18. SDSienna Day
  ... do a few teaching lessons.
19. CWChris Williamson
  Okay, cool. So if there are ... There, there we go. Straight off the bat.
20. SDSienna Day
  (laughs)
21. CWChris Williamson
  Anyone who wants to get into porn, could you do an online course? You could
22. NANarrator
  Have one.
23. SDSienna Day
  Yeah, I could mentor them.
24. YSYusef Smith
  Go for it.
25. CWChris Williamson
  Let's go.
26. YSYusef Smith
  I can't believe ...
27. SDSienna Day
  I should've dressed schoolteacher-
28. CWChris Williamson
  ... how difficult that is.
29. SDSienna Day
  ... and you should've been the students.
30. CWChris Williamson
  Tha- that can be the second, that can be the sequel.
5:26 – 6:46
Breaking in: Google, agents, and the surprisingly formal process
1. YSYusef Smith
  ... who do you, who do you contact when you're like, "I wanna get into porn, so I'm gonna ring-"
2. CWChris Williamson
  'Cause this ... Sorry.
3. JCJonny Cox
  Switchboard.
4. YSYusef Smith
  Switchboard.
5. JCJonny Cox
  In the UK, switchboard. (laughs)
6. YSYusef Smith
  The operator.
7. CWChris Williamson
  Yeah.
8. YSYusef Smith
  Can we do the porn industry, please?
9. CWChris Williamson
  Yeah, where do you start?
10. SDSienna Day
  So, um, I just Googled how to be a porn star.
11. CWChris Williamson
  Okay.
12. SDSienna Day
  Doesn't give you a lot of information.
13. JCJonny Cox
  Step one.
14. SDSienna Day
  Anyway, I found this YouTube interview of a porn star, and it was on, um, a company called ATMA LA, their subscription. And I just messaged them 'cause they were, um, a c- like, an agent. I was like, "I wanna do porn. Will you represent me?" And they were like, "Okay, let's organize a Skype, Skype chat and then send us statistics over, some photographs and stuff, and we'll go from there."
15. CWChris Williamson
  Quite a formal process then.
16. SDSienna Day
  Yeah, it's quite a formal process.And then they send you around all the companies like a little show pony, see if they wanna book you. (laughs)
17. CWChris Williamson
  What do you mean, like publishers?
18. SDSienna Day
  (sighs)
19. CWChris Williamson
  What is it? Publishers or-
20. SDSienna Day
  Well, they're like your agent, then they'll send you to like, for instance, um, Evil Angel, Brazzers, Digital Playground, and then be like, so they can see you in the flesh and see if they wanna book you for their shoot.
21. CWChris Williamson
  Okay.
22. SDSienna Day
  Yeah.
23. CWChris Williamson
  That's, so you've-
24. JCJonny Cox
  So that's the selection process, is it? Like-
25. SDSienna Day
  Yeah.
26. JCJonny Cox
  ... you've like, so you, you, it's not like you have to then do free work until you get... like, so it's not like acting where you have to do kind of free gigs, extras and that kinda thing in a-
27. SDSienna Day
  No, definitely not free gigs.
28. JCJonny Cox
  Right.
29. SDSienna Day
  Don't have to do free gigs in porn.
30. CWChris Williamson
  That's interesting.
6:46 – 9:08
First shoots in the US: intimidation, long days, and surreal set reality
1. CWChris Williamson
  Okay. So you've done that, and then tell me about your first time. First time on a, on a porn set.
2. SDSienna Day
  I keep getting mixed up, right, between which was my first time, because you did quite a lot at first, 'cause I went over and just did like a fuckload of stuff.
3. CWChris Williamson
  Went over?
4. SDSienna Day
  Yeah, to the, to the States.
5. CWChris Williamson
  Why?
6. SDSienna Day
  Um, just because I could find more information on that. And anyway, then, um, it was either for a company called Porno Dan, which is a (laughs) a live webcam show.
7. CWChris Williamson
  Mm-hmm.
8. SDSienna Day
  Or it was for Hustler. I can't remember which one come first, might've been Porno Dan. Um, I worked for a guy who had the biggest pair of balls I've ever fucking seen in my life. They were-
9. CWChris Williamson
  What sort of size are we talking?
10. SDSienna Day
  Like chicken fillets.
11. JCJonny Cox
  Chicken fillets. (laughs)
12. SDSienna Day
  Bigger than, bigger than lemon balm would of this size. (laughs)
13. CWChris Williamson
  Wow.
14. JCJonny Cox
  Holy shit. That's-
15. CWChris Williamson
  It's like two oranges.
16. SDSienna Day
  Yeah.
17. CWChris Williamson
  Like two medium-sized oranges.
18. SDSienna Day
  That's what I'm like. And obviously it's quite a lot of big guys.
19. JCJonny Cox
  Were they e- were they enhanced or was, was that just as natural?
20. SDSienna Day
  (laughs) I'm not sure, you know. I never got around to asking.
21. JCJonny Cox
  Could you imagine?
22. SDSienna Day
  So obviously, I was thinking, "What the fuck?"
23. JCJonny Cox
  Sounds wrong, doesn't it?
24. CWChris Williamson
  So like ...
25. SDSienna Day
  Absolutely massive. And then it was like-
26. CWChris Williamson
  No two oranges. Two oranges. Two oranges?
27. SDSienna Day
  No bigger. Like I'm talking-
28. CWChris Williamson
  That's ridiculous.
29. SDSienna Day
  I'm talking like not ball-shaped, like little, like-
30. JCJonny Cox
  Like rugby, like rugby ball-shaped?
9:08 – 10:44
The “porn progression” ladder: solo → girl-girl → boy-girl → anal → DP and beyond
1. SDSienna Day
  No. So I like, I staged everything. I did boy-girl a year after, I did anal a year after that, I did DP the year after that, I did DAP the year after that, I did like-
2. JCJonny Cox
  DAP?
3. SDSienna Day
  ... gangbang at the end of the year-
4. CWChris Williamson
  Oh, you're gonna get into all this.
5. JCJonny Cox
  Okay. Uh-
6. SDSienna Day
  So like doom, doom, doom, doom.
7. CWChris Williamson
  Oh, so there's kind of-
8. SDSienna Day
  This is year six now, so-
9. CWChris Williamson
  There's like a pyramid.
10. SDSienna Day
  ... I want, I wanted a lot of things to do. (laughs)
11. CWChris Williamson
  So there's a hierarchy.
12. SDSienna Day
  Yes, there is.
13. CWChris Williamson
  So where do you start? What's the bottom rung of missionary?
14. SDSienna Day
  Realistically you should start at solo.
15. CWChris Williamson
  S- oh, wow. Okay. Yeah, so that's like-
16. SDSienna Day
  Solo.
17. CWChris Williamson
  ... that's kind of a little bit like, uh, the pilot episode, right? That's before you even start.
18. SDSienna Day
  Yeah. So you, you wanna milk it as much as you can, don't you? So you do-
19. CWChris Williamson
  Mm-hmm.
20. SDSienna Day
  ... three-month to six-month solo if you can. Then you're like, "Right, I'll do girl-girl to prolong your porn life." If you go and do an anal then everyone wants to shoot you most hardcore s- um, scene. No one wants to watch you do a solo if you've been shagged in the ass.
21. CWChris Williamson
  Right.
22. SDSienna Day
  Do you see what I'm saying?
23. CWChris Williamson
  So you, once you've raised that barrier-
24. SDSienna Day
  Yeah.
25. CWChris Williamson
  ... that's, you're only ever gonna be at there?
26. SDSienna Day
  Yes. Well some times, or some girls will still, it depends on like your fan base, how popular you are, but say if you're brand new, you don't really have that and you're doing the hardcore stuff, they're not really wanna, they generally don't wanna go back. You know what I mean?
27. CWChris Williamson
  Understood.
28. JCJonny Cox
  So there's like a, there's a fixed path they have to run.
29. SDSienna Day
  Yeah. Like I, I do boy-girl now, so I mainly get booked for boy... well, also boy-girl, but I mainly get booked for boy-girl, boy-girl-anal because they are like my highest level to do, or DP.
30. JCJonny Cox
  Right.
10:44 – 16:16
UK vs US work and Babestation: long shifts, dirty-talk skill, and different audiences
1. SDSienna Day
  (laughs) I was still good to the agent, but then I wanted... once you've been, I'd been established in the US, I could then have contacts in the UK. It's actually... I had no way of knowing like how to like get into the UK industry. And then when I got back, I started doing Babestation.
2. CWChris Williamson
  Oh, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
3. SDSienna Day
  Which, uh, from, that's not for me. It's too soft and too long.
4. CWChris Williamson
  It's long days, right?
5. SDSienna Day
  Y- long nights. It's like 10:00 till 6:00 and like you just get-
6. JCJonny Cox
  10:00 till 6:00 you-
7. CWChris Williamson
  10:00 PM to 6:00 AM?
8. SDSienna Day
  Yeah.
9. JCJonny Cox
  That's two shift.
10. CWChris Williamson
  Wow.
11. YSYusef Smith
  That's a hard ass shift.
12. SDSienna Day
  Yeah, it bloody is.
13. JCJonny Cox
  Yeah.
14. CWChris Williamson
  Yeah.
15. SDSienna Day
  And then obviously I, if I'm just on the phone with someone, I get distracted, so I'm like staring around and I get my words mixed up, so I'll be like, "Oh yes, you can suck on my cock." Fuck. (laughs) That's not what they wanna do.
16. YSYusef Smith
  (laughs)
17. SDSienna Day
  I mean I'll suck your cock but-
18. YSYusef Smith
  That is an immediate turn off as well, isn't it?
19. CWChris Williamson
  Yeah. Off.
20. SDSienna Day
  So that wasn't great.
21. CWChris Williamson
  So they're on the wrong channel.
22. JCJonny Cox
  So they're not on TV? So you're just on live TV?
23. SDSienna Day
  Yeah, you've seen the babe channels. Come on now.
24. JCJonny Cox
  So what, so what-
25. SDSienna Day
  Where they're like this.
26. JCJonny Cox
  ... what's the... I don't have a TV, so what's... (laughs)
27. SDSienna Day
  You don't have a TV? (laughs)
28. YSYusef Smith
  And then you think that's a joke.
29. JCJonny Cox
  (laughs)
30. CWChris Williamson
  (laughs)
16:16 – 17:18
A day on set: hair/makeup, glam stills, and ‘prep’ (including anal prep)
1. CWChris Williamson
  So talk me through, y- it's a day that you've got work-
2. SDSienna Day
  Yeah.
3. CWChris Williamson
  You've got craft. Talk me through morning routine and then what do you do? You get to the set, do you have like a bit... do you do your own makeup? Is there hair and makeup people there?
4. SDSienna Day
  Right, depends what company you're working for. If it's, um, a company like Brazzers, Eve Lain, Children of the Playground.
5. CWChris Williamson
  Are they the big... the, the, like the big names?
6. JCJonny Cox
  The big diets.
7. SDSienna Day
  The big ones, the ones with a lot of money, then they... you'll go in, 8:00 or 9:00 call time, you'll get your makeup done, you'll get your hair done, then you do glam still. Then if it's anal, you'll go prep for anal.
8. CWChris Williamson
  What, what's, what's that?
9. SDSienna Day
  Anal. (laughs)
10. JCJonny Cox
  (laughs)
11. CWChris Williamson
  No, no, what's prep for anal?
12. JCJonny Cox
  What's the prep for anal? Glycerol suppository?
13. SDSienna Day
  Douching.
14. JCJonny Cox
  Uh-huh.
15. SDSienna Day
  And some girls like to stick a butt plug up their ass to stretch it up. I just wash and then that's it, it's ready to go.
16. CWChris Williamson
  Okay, so you're pretty sort of quick.
17. SDSienna Day
  Quick, yeah.
18. JCJonny Cox
  Mm-hmm.
19. CWChris Williamson
  Cool, that's good.
20. JCJonny Cox
  (laughs)
21. CWChris Williamson
  Well, I mean, that's got to be an advantage.
22. SDSienna Day
  Yeah, exactly. (laughs)
23. CWChris Williamson
  That's like, that's like being able to-
24. SDSienna Day
  And I can give very easily which is a good, good thing. (laughs)
25. CWChris Williamson
  You know, that's, that's the... that's the equivalent of you being able to cold bar deadlift 200 kilos without warming up.
26. JCJonny Cox
  Just straight up like...
27. CWChris Williamson
  Yeah.
28. JCJonny Cox
  There you go.
29. CWChris Williamson
  Walk into the gym, dead lift.
30. JCJonny Cox
  Nice feel.
17:18 – 21:44
Pay structure, piracy, and protecting your boundaries on set
1. JCJonny Cox
  Nice to know, yeah. So how much do you have to look after your own financial interests? So you said, you said like there are certain cases where people will want you to work extra, like unpaid stuff. Do you have to always like be aware of that?
2. SDSienna Day
  What, what like unpaid stuff? What, what is this unpaid stuff?
3. JCJonny Cox
  No, no, like...
4. SDSienna Day
  I don't like the sound of this. (laughs)
5. JCJonny Cox
  That, that someone would, would expect you to like, to... the... if you're having to do like extra hours or do stuff that, that isn't being directly paid for directly or, or is it better than what you're used-
6. SDSienna Day
  We... so we're not paid by hour, we're paid... you, you decide yourself how you're paid. So you're either paid like day rate or scene rate.
7. JCJonny Cox
  Mm-hmm.
8. SDSienna Day
  So actually, at one time, I had a quite a big argument with a gentleman because I went... I went there, I did, um, I did the scene, it was an anal scene, smashed it, four very good positions, gave a filthy, a f- hardcore fucking scene, and he recorded it all on Snapchat and sent it out. And then he goes to me afterwards when I was at the shower, "Okay, 10 minutes and we'll start the scene." And I'm like-
9. JCJonny Cox
  Oh, okay.
10. SDSienna Day
  ... "Whoa, whoa, whoa."
11. JCJonny Cox
  So how much does that kind of thing happen where like either you've been pirated-
12. SDSienna Day
  Um-
13. JCJonny Cox
  ... or like-
14. CWChris Williamson
  ... you, you know, you, stuff gets uploaded where you can't then profit from it, because-
15. SDSienna Day
  But every single one of my movies has been pirated, but I'm paid for that scene so that it doesn't affect my sales after the fact.
16. CWChris Williamson
  So it doesn't, oh, okay.
17. SDSienna Day
  Unless it's my own stuff or my OnlyFans.
18. CWChris Williamson
  Can I get back to the big hitters there?
19. SDSienna Day
  Yeah.
20. CWChris Williamson
  Like, you went through a few characteristics that make a good scene.
21. SDSienna Day
  Yeah.
22. CWChris Williamson
  So, like, can we ju-, can we just-
23. SDSienna Day
  (laughs)
24. CWChris Williamson
  ... can we just learn about those, please?
25. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  They come. It depends who you're shooting for. Like, some people like really beautiful stuff. I did something in Prague through the week and it was like, cinema, cinematic, cinematic erotica or whatever. I personally hate that bullshit. Like, it's long, it's unnecessary, your, your back arched like that for, like, 12 hours of the day. (laughs) So, uh...
26. CWChris Williamson
  In the face.
27. SDSienna Day
  And then after that you're doing someone else for another, they're 20-hour-long days and it's all soft porn. So, you have total of about six minutes of sex.
28. CWChris Williamson
  Wow.
29. SDSienna Day
  And a 20-hour day, like, I personally hate that. But the-
30. CWChris Williamson
  Who's that for?
21:44 – 25:59
Porn business model: tube sites, MindGeek, funnels, and the rise of OnlyFans
1. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  And, er, the, the payment side of it. So you always get paid, but there is, like, infinite free porn on the internet. So how, how is the... Well, like, who's it being sold to? I mean, may- maybe there's a massive group of, of guys who pay for it, but...
2. SDSienna Day
  It's actually a bit porn politics. So, like, the p-, the por-, the, like, porno Xvideos are actually owned by the company that do porn. So they actually sort of technically sort of steal their own content.
3. CWChris Williamson
  So they're creator, publisher and distributor?
4. SDSienna Day
  Yeah.
5. CWChris Williamson
  Wow.
6. SDSienna Day
  They're basically everything. That's why it's only, like, every 10 minutes and then you'll see the ads and you'll click on it and you'll go to the website, if that makes sense.
7. CWChris Williamson
  Oh, so it's full length.
8. SDSienna Day
  That's why porn is never like 40 minutes long on PornHub or Xvideos.
9. CWChris Williamson
  'Cause they have to pay someone.
10. SDSienna Day
  Yeah.
11. CWChris Williamson
  Oh, is that why.
12. SDSienna Day
  So, browsers, it's like PornHub, but it's, it's, um, a company called MindGeek. But now a lot of people are making their own content, that's why, like, PornHub are offering the premium, we have OnlyFans, we've got Chelsea Singh and Mia Mae.
13. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  So, those kind of aggregators, like, are they advertising for you or do they, do they ruin your profits long term?
14. SDSienna Day
  Um, (sighs) it's very different because y- I think years ago there was more of an e- of an effect because girls were being paid from like t- and guys, like, tens of thousands of pounds per scene, to the thousands of pounds per scene.
15. CWChris Williamson
  Hmm.
16. SDSienna Day
  But now it's, it's like a long, a long-haul effect, if you get what, that long-haul, what's the, what, what's the...
17. CWChris Williamson
  Cumulative effect.
18. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  Like the Law of Loose Lies or whatever, like...
19. SDSienna Day
  Yeah. Like, it's not go- it's not affected me since I've started, but if I'd have been doing it 20 years I'd have really seen the effect of it.
20. CWChris Williamson
  Ah.
21. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  So, what do you, what do you stand to earn, like, not you specifically, but, like, an average porn star? What's, like, would, would be an annual-
22. SDSienna Day
  You don't make a lot of money from one porn video. You make it from, like, doing quite a lot of porn videos and then doing things for your o- for yourself. So your porn is like your self-promotion.
23. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  So, would you rather get royalties from, like, videos that you do, or would you rather-
24. SDSienna Day
  Yes, I would. One's got 53 million views. I'd, I'd get, I'd be a millionaire.
25. CWChris Williamson
  Okay.
26. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  Three million? 53 million?
27. CWChris Williamson
  Wow.
28. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  Where? What, on one video?
29. SDSienna Day
  On Xvideos, on my thing. So if we got royalties, we'd be, like, millionaires.
30. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  Right. Okay.
25:59 – 29:34
Fetishes, custom requests, and why categories keep escalating
1. CWChris Williamson
  When, when you're doing this stuff, do you have... 'Cause we... So when, when we make videos or podcasts, like we're very much thinking about the person on the other end who's watching or listening and, like, how can we talk to them the most?
2. SDSienna Day
  Yeah.
3. CWChris Williamson
  Like, are you thinking of the viewer when you're doing this stuff?
4. SDSienna Day
  Yeah, I always do little, um, surveys on Twitter and Instagram and OnlyFans saying, "What do you guys want to see next?" This week I'm going to do small penis humiliation and a jerk off instruction.
5. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  (laughs)
6. CWChris Williamson
  Is that, that, that... Is that a thing?
7. SDSienna Day
  Yeah. I've just-
8. CWChris Williamson
  Which one?
9. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  Small penis humiliation.
10. SDSienna Day
  Yeah, so...
11. CWChris Williamson
  And a jerk off instructions.
12. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  How does that, how does that work?
13. SDSienna Day
  That's not, that's not my usual style actually.
14. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  Like...
15. SDSienna Day
  So I'm gonna do a little bit of research in, 'cause I'm not naturally, like into the dominating side, and that's kind of a bit fetishy. So... But someone's asked it, me to do it on the, on my content. So I'm gonna humiliate his small penis. (laughs)
16. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  What's the appeal of that?
17. SDSienna Day
  (laughs) Because I was like-
18. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  It's funny.
19. SDSienna Day
  I'll have to ask him. (laughs)
20. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  Because like, yeah, if you're the man-
21. SDSienna Day
  He chooses his personal preference. Maybe he's, maybe he's proud of his small cock. Or maybe he thinks, wants me to tell him it's a worthless piece of shit, I don't know. I would have to ask him which, which... Where he wants me to go from.
22. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  Mm. Nice.
23. SDSienna Day
  Usually they will want me to say, "Look at this big massive fucking cock you have, it's nothing compared to this."
24. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  Oh, okay. That's what they're after.
25. CWChris Williamson
  Yeah.
26. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  Right.
27. CWChris Williamson
  It's a weird dynamic. So there's a couple of girls that I've known that have done like, uh, financial domination.
28. SDSienna Day
  Yeah.
29. CWChris Williamson
  Um-
30. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  Oh, whatever you're saying now-
29:34 – 35:59
Relationships and intimacy: jealousy, emotional separation, and ‘porn brain’ off set
1. CWChris Williamson
  So going to the porn stuff. How is holding down a relationship while you're doing porn?
2. SDSienna Day
  Absolutely horrific. (laughs)
3. CWChris Williamson
  (laughs)
4. SDSienna Day
  Terrible. (laughs)
5. CWChris Williamson
  Can't believe it.
6. SDSienna Day
  Terrible.
7. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  For you or for the guy?
8. SDSienna Day
  Just the general relationship.
9. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  The whole thing?
10. SDSienna Day
  Every single party involved.
11. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  Right.
12. JCJonny Cox
  So like, is it-
13. SDSienna Day
  No, do you know what it is? It's, it's very hard because... I think a lot of guys get attracted to you... Well, the, this... They meet you through porn sometimes. They might be like fans or-
14. CWChris Williamson
  So have you had, have you had porn boyfriends?
15. SDSienna Day
  I haven't had a porn boyfriend. I don't think mixing business and, and pleasure. And it's just haven't had that connection with someone where I've wanted to go out with them. Not that I haven't met great guys, because I have. But, um, yeah, I don't think they... When they get fond of you and, or they start liking you a lot more, then I don't think they actually like seeing you as a sex object no more. And then they struggle with it and they, they don't want their girlfriend going out and getting fucked and spunked on by other men.
16. JCJonny Cox
  So it's always jealousy that starts like-
17. SDSienna Day
  Yeah, it is the jealousy really that gets them.
18. JCJonny Cox
  Do you get jealous?
19. CWChris Williamson
  ... like, if you were with someone who was a porn act- uh, a porn actor, porn star.
20. SDSienna Day
  No, because it's, it's a job. It's so different. Like, I'll go there, I can't even remember the names of men I've slept with in porn.
21. CWChris Williamson
  It's a very-
22. SDSienna Day
  I don't even s- you know, you go there, you speak to them, you have a nice conversation, you make a good scene together, you have respect for each other. Then you'll go and you might not speak to each other ever again.
23. CWChris Williamson
  Isn't that- so I think that probably strikes on one of-
24. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  Mm-hmm.
25. CWChris Williamson
  That probably strikes on one of the really, like, difficult to understand things that most people think about when they think about porn in the industry-
26. SDSienna Day
  Such a different mentality, that you can't get it.
27. CWChris Williamson
  Yeah, because for most people, the reason that you have sex is because it's this emotional bond, it's this thing which is incredibly intimate. It's not transactional, it's not like filmed. There's not hair and makeup. You haven't done a douche before.
28. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  Mm-hmm.
29. CWChris Williamson
  Like, all of this sort of stuff and I think it's that-
30. SDSienna Day
  I've had to teach a couple of friends to douche.
35:59 – 40:18
Health, testing, and industry ‘lockdowns’ after a positive result
1. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  Now he's ruining the porn name, Dan. Uh, okay. So how many ... I'm gonna say guys. How many guys do you reckon you've had sex with?
2. SDSienna Day
  Oh Jesus, this is another question I hate. A lot.
3. CWChris Williamson
  A thousand?
4. SDSienna Day
  Between 500 and 1,000. I know that's a very broad spectrum.
5. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  (laughs) Fucking Christ. (laughs) Yeah.
6. CWChris Williamson
  Brackets there.
7. SDSienna Day
  Let's ... I've had ... been having porn sex for six years. I'd slept with quite a few before then. Then there's been personal sex.... yeah, fuck knows.
8. CWChris Williamson
  What's the-
9. SDSienna Day
  How long's a piece of string?
10. CWChris Williamson
  So 500 to 1,000 you're exposing yourself to a massive amount of risk. How do you-
11. SDSienna Day
  (laughs)
12. CWChris Williamson
  Like, is that something that you-
13. SDSienna Day
  How am I re- how?
14. CWChris Williamson
  Like-
15. SDSienna Day
  On 36th?
16. CWChris Williamson
  ... sexual health, STI, yeah, massively. Like d- is that something like-
17. SDSienna Day
  We get tested every two to four weeks.
18. CWChris Williamson
  And do you get tested before a new partner? Or, like, do you have, like... What, what, what's the process?
19. SDSienna Day
  Well, I'm tested every two or four weeks anyway. It was-
20. CWChris Williamson
  Is it-
21. SDSienna Day
  For the past six years that's been a... Longest I've gone without getting tested would probably be two months for the past six years.
22. CWChris Williamson
  Okay.
23. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  Who tests you? The company tests you?
24. SDSienna Day
  No, you have to, um, get it done. There's a, a company in Dean Street, um, that used to give us six hours turnaround results. We needed our results fast to get-
25. CWChris Williamson
  Yeah.
26. SDSienna Day
  ... them moved out of our window.
27. CWChris Williamson
  Yeah.
28. SDSienna Day
  And you have to get tested for chlamydia, gonorrhea, syphilis, HIV, hep C, hep B. A lot of the diseases over there.
29. CWChris Williamson
  Okay.
30. SDSienna Day
  A lot of diseases.
40:18 – 41:45
Fame, fan encounters, and social media bans (Twitter/Instagram enforcement)
1. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  So how, how often do you get recognized by fans or by, like... Like, does that ever happen in the street, people coming up to you saying-
2. SDSienna Day
  Yeah, quite a bit. Sometimes they'll be a bit shy and they won't want to say it and then they'll message you and you're like, "Oh, shit. Where was I? What did I look like?" (laughs)
3. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  Oh, okay. It's that worse?
4. SDSienna Day
  And sometimes they'll frantically chase you. Like, in Edinburgh I had a guy just, like, follow me all the way to the hotel, like, "Can I have a picture?"
5. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  Seriously?
6. SDSienna Day
  Yeah.
7. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  Does it, does it intimidate you when people are-
8. SDSienna Day
  No, no. They usually just say I'm excitable.
9. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  Okay.
10. SDSienna Day
  Yeah. I haven't really encountered any, like, absolute lunatics.
11. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  'Cause something we find is that, like, people who watch podcasts or videos of us, they'll come up to us and because there's a very one-way sense of familiarity, like they know us 'cause they've seen our content, but we don't know who they are and so they're overly familiar with us-
12. SDSienna Day
  Yeah.
13. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  ... but we're just like...
14. SDSienna Day
  Yeah.
15. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  And it takes a bit of-
16. SDSienna Day
  I think I'm used to being friendly with strangers 'cause porn.
17. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  That's true.
18. CWChris Williamson
  Yeah, that's good.
19. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  Unused to. We- we're not very good with strangers.
20. CWChris Williamson
  Do, do people ever come up... Do people ever come up and say, um, like, so with us, good example, someone will say, "Do you remember on episode five-
21. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  (laughs)
22. CWChris Williamson
  ... when you-
23. SDSienna Day
  Three minutes, 33 seconds.
24. CWChris Williamson
  ... when you said, when you, when you spoke about the Pomodoro technique and you said that you do four on, one off, but I do five on, one off."
25. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  (laughs)
26. CWChris Williamson
  Uh, do, do people ever come up to you and go, "Do you remember that scene you did? It was with, like, this, this, this person?" And you're thinking, "I did that like half a decade ago. I haven't got a fucking clue."
27. SDSienna Day
  I, I'm supposed to say things I don't, like, don't even remember. Like, someone sent me an Elvis Presley book 'cause apparently I said I liked him once in an interview and I thought, "Have I been saying that?"
28. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  That's very thoughtful of you.
29. SDSienna Day
  When did I say that?
30. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  Very thoughtful.
41:45 – 45:17
Highlights, red flags, and set realities: best shoots, casting-couch warnings, and walking off sets
1. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  Johnny, what we got next? You got some more questions. Yeah. Um, what is the worst thing, what is the worst experience you've had? And what is the best experience you've had?
2. SDSienna Day
  I have... I'm, I'm quite lucky. I've not had too many bad experiences that... When that guy tried to get me to do another scene after Snapchat, I was raging. He called me a psychopath. I was like, "I'm not doing another scene."
3. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  He sto- he stole from you there, basically.
4. CWChris Williamson
  Yeah.
5. SDSienna Day
  Yeah, he was trying to exploit me and get more for his money. But obviously then you stood your ground. Um, I've had a couple of situations like that. I once had a glamour scene where the guy was trying to sort of like be a bit pesty and, you know, crack on with me, even though it was just glamour photographs. But other than that, everything's been really good. I've been quite lucky. Oh, and the other thing is shooting really, really long days for like 20 hours, it just- 20 hours?
6. CWChris Williamson
  20 hours?
7. SDSienna Day
  Yeah, that's just not for me no more, that type of work.
8. CWChris Williamson
  ... yeah, that's-
9. SDSienna Day
  20, 20 hours.
10. CWChris Williamson
  You need a union. You really need a union.
11. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  Yeah.
12. SDSienna Day
  Oh, we've got one, and they're fucking mental.
13. CWChris Williamson
  Isn't it-
14. SDSienna Day
  No one really respects them. (laughs)
15. CWChris Williamson
  Is it a union? Tell us, uh, we need to, can we-
16. SDSienna Day
  I'm not gonna mention names for them because... but they're always kicking off on Twitter.
17. CWChris Williamson
  Well, I mean, that's exactly where everyone needs to be, for a union.
18. JCJonny Cox
  That's what they need, isn't it?
19. SDSienna Day
  Because, because the porn people don't see the union as a union, because the union don't actually shoot porn. They're just these people with an opinion.
20. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  Oh.
21. CWChris Williamson
  Oh, okay.
22. HCHost (Propane Fitness co-host)
  (laughs)
23. SDSienna Day
  Do you know what I mean?
24. JCJonny Cox
  That's interesting.
25. CWChris Williamson
  That's everyone on the internet, isn't it? Just people with opinions.
26. SDSienna Day
  That is everyone.
27. CWChris Williamson
  They don't actually do anything, they're just a man with a Twitter account.
28. JCJonny Cox
  And a keyboard that can... what, what have you-
29. SDSienna Day
  It's so funny though, reading all this stuff.
30. CWChris Williamson
  So what were... oh, what was the best?
45:17 – 59:02
Fitness, career longevity, and what’s next: events, retirement, and the MILF lane
1. JCJonny Cox
  What does your training look like?
2. SDSienna Day
  What type of training are we talking about?
3. CWChris Williamson
  Like her gym routine.
4. SDSienna Day
  Oh, as I was talking about. (laughs)
5. JCJonny Cox
  So we came in, Chris was like, "She's looking shreddy."
6. CWChris Williamson
  FYI.
7. SDSienna Day
  Yeah.
8. CWChris Williamson
  FYI, if you have a look, like, Sienna, you are in fantastic nick now.
9. SDSienna Day
  Thank you. I'm slouched in the corner.
10. CWChris Williamson
  I know you are, but, like, you've done a lot of work, I think, over... definitely since I've known you. What, last three, four years?
11. SDSienna Day
  Yeah. Yeah.
12. CWChris Williamson
  Um, in terms of transforming.
13. SDSienna Day
  The biggest I've ever been is probably about a size ten, but I would be little, I'm only five four, so I look quite curvy and I didn't like that, and I had a lot of walk with it. So, um, now I do like weights like five times a week.
14. JCJonny Cox
  Weights five times a week?
15. CWChris Williamson
  Wow. Push plus legs or what?
16. SDSienna Day
  No, I like, um, I do everything separate, so like chest, back-
17. JCJonny Cox
  Juggernaut method.
18. SDSienna Day
  ... arms. I don't like push and pulls.
19. CWChris Williamson
  Play body parts.
20. SDSienna Day
  It co- it confuses me. (laughs)
21. CWChris Williamson
  What about drop sets?
22. SDSienna Day
  I'm like, "What's on this..." Yeah, no, um, super sets.
23. JCJonny Cox
  So, so you do a body part split with super sets five times a week?
24. CWChris Williamson
  I definitely did not expect that answer. I love this.
25. SDSienna Day
  It's three, three to five, but more five.
26. JCJonny Cox
  What's that?
27. SDSienna Day
  'Cause like I'm separating it all at the minute, so I'll be like, if I'm doing three, it's 'cause I'm working.
28. CWChris Williamson
  Okay.
29. JCJonny Cox
  Right.
30. SDSienna Day
  But, yeah, but at the minute I'm doing five.

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Parental advisory & setting the tone for an unmonetizable episode

How Sienna got into porn: from high libido to a deliberate career choice

Breaking in: Google, agents, and the surprisingly formal process

First shoots in the US: intimidation, long days, and surreal set reality

The “porn progression” ladder: solo → girl-girl → boy-girl → anal → DP and beyond

UK vs US work and Babestation: long shifts, dirty-talk skill, and different audiences

A day on set: hair/makeup, glam stills, and ‘prep’ (including anal prep)

Pay structure, piracy, and protecting your boundaries on set

Porn business model: tube sites, MindGeek, funnels, and the rise of OnlyFans

Fetishes, custom requests, and why categories keep escalating

Relationships and intimacy: jealousy, emotional separation, and ‘porn brain’ off set

Health, testing, and industry ‘lockdowns’ after a positive result

Fame, fan encounters, and social media bans (Twitter/Instagram enforcement)

Highlights, red flags, and set realities: best shoots, casting-couch warnings, and walking off sets

Fitness, career longevity, and what’s next: events, retirement, and the MILF lane

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