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What No One Wants to Admit About Porn - Zack Telander

Zack Telander is a weightlifter, coach & YouTuber. I haven't seen my housemate in months because we've both been travelling. So here is 90 minutes of us discussing some of the biggest stories that have happened recently in our lives and within the insanity of the internet. Expect to learn Zack’s thoughts on Billy MacFarland coming back with Fyre Festival 2.0, the massive change to trans athletes in sports, whether watching porn is considered cheating, why Oppenheimer might be a threat to your relationship, what it's like to visit Japan and Korea were and what impressed him the most about each country, and much more... Sponsors: Get 10% discount on Marek Health’s comprehensive blood panels at https://marekhealth.com/modernwisdom (use code: MODERNWISDOM) Get $150/£150 discount on the Eight Sleep Pod Cover at https://eightsleep.com/modernwisdom (discount automatically applied) Get a Free Sample Pack of all LMNT Flavours with your first box at https://www.drinklmnt.com/modernwisdom (automatically applied at checkout) Extra Stuff: Get my free Reading List of 100 books to read before you die → https://chriswillx.com/books/ To support me on Patreon (thank you): https://www.patreon.com/modernwisdom - 00:00 Catching Up 05:28 Fyre Festival 2.0 14:56 Will New Transgender Powerlifting Policies Impact Sport? 26:53 The Terrible Logic of Extreme Body Positivity 29:22 Is Watching Porn Considered Cheating? 43:01 Bradley Cooper’s Anti-Semitic Nose Job 47:30 Thoughts on Vivek Ramaswamy’s Republican Candidacy 50:07 Californians Are Having Sex in Robot Cars 54:28 Zack’s Trip to Japan & Korea 1:05:10 British Drinking Culture 1:10:11 The Real Lifestyle of a DJ 1:17:10 Do Creators or Audiences Enjoy the Content More? 1:26:43 Where to Find Zack - Get access to every episode 10 hours before YouTube by subscribing for free on Spotify - https://spoti.fi/2LSimPn or Apple Podcasts - https://apple.co/2MNqIgw Get my free Reading List of 100 life-changing books here - https://chriswillx.com/books/ - Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact/

Chris WilliamsonhostZack Telanderguest
Sep 7, 20231h 27mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Porn, Powerlifting, And Fame: What We Avoid Admitting About Culture

  1. Chris Williamson and Zack Telander catch up on their rapidly evolving careers before diving into a series of controversial cultural flashpoints. They discuss the comeback of Fyre Festival’s Billy McFarland, public forgiveness of serially problematic influencers, and new transgender policies in strength sports. The conversation then turns to whether porn use counts as cheating, how fragile some relationship norms have become, and broader questions about fantasy, addiction, and honesty. Along the way they touch on body-positivity hypocrisy, representation in casting, nightlife excess, robotaxi sex, and the psychological and lifestyle toll of being a modern creator or touring performer.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Public redemption often hinges more on winning than on ethics.

Figures like Billy McFarland, Logan Paul, Jake Paul, and Andrew Tate demonstrate that if you keep creating momentum, many people quickly forget or minimize past scandals, especially when new victories or deals follow.

Sports bodies are quietly shifting toward ‘open’ categories to protect women’s competition.

Swimming (FINA), powerlifting (IPF), and Olympic weightlifting have started restricting male-puberty athletes from female categories and experimenting with open divisions, largely in reaction to flashpoint cases like Lia Thomas, Laurel Hubbard, and Anne Andres.

Porn becomes a relationship problem when it displaces intimacy, not by default.

They distinguish genuine porn addiction from ordinary use, noting that porn can either signal underlying relationship issues or directly erode a couple’s sex life—making communication and agreed boundaries more important than blanket moralizing.

Treating sexual fantasy itself as ‘cheating’ ignores basic male–female differences.

Chris cites research that men typically cycle through multiple partners in a single fantasy, whereas women focus on one; framing any non-partner fantasy as betrayal is both unrealistic and heavily biased toward a female psychological template.

Audience capture pushes creators toward extreme or narrow personas.

They reference Nikocado Avocado as a cautionary tale of a creator reshaping his entire life around what an audience rewards, and contrast that with trying to evolve formats (like Zack’s) so people follow the person, not just one shtick.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

We love winners. The world loves winners. It doesn’t even matter how evil, how bad they are—if they win, a lot of people will still defend them.

Zack Telander

People only remember your last three streams. On the first one they give you loads of shit, by the fourth one everyone’s forgotten.

Chris Williamson (referencing Destiny’s ‘just keep streaming’ strategy)

It’s the nose blindness to fucking up that the world has. The room stinks like shit, but we’ve been in here for two hours, so that’s just our base level.

Zack Telander

Thinking bad things isn’t the problem. It’s when you make those thoughts physical—searching for it, messaging someone, turning it into reality—that’s where it becomes an issue.

Zack Telander

The people who watch the DJ are having way more fun than he is.

Zack Telander

Content creator lifestyle, success milestones, and parasocial recognitionBilly McFarland, Fyre Festival 2.0, and cultural love of ‘winners’Transgender and open categories in powerlifting, weightlifting, and swimmingPorn use in relationships, ‘betrayal trauma,’ and what counts as cheatingBody positivity, Lizzo allegations, and selective outrage in representation debatesNightlife, alcohol culture, and the psychological cost of entertainment careersTravel impressions of Japan and Korea, plus cultural discipline vs. demographic collapse

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