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Why Violence & Revenge Fantasies Feel Good - James Kimmel Jr.

James Kimmel Jr. is a professor at Yale, a psychiatrist, and an author. Why are we drawn to revenge? From playground grudges to epic betrayals, the urge to strike back is universal. But is it a survival mechanism, or an ancient drive that no longer fits the modern age? Expect to learn why the feeling of revenge exists and how it is adaptive, what the biggest triggers of the desire for revenge is, why revenge and revenge fantasies make us feel good, the difference between revenge seeking and self defence or boundary setting, if some people happen to be more vengeful than others, if you should be lauding to forgive rathe than seek revenge, the steps to move through forgiveness, and much more… - 0:00 Choosing to Not Choose Revenge 7:57 Why Do We Feel Desire for Revenge? 11:39 What are the Biggest Drivers of Revenge? 15:06 How Do We Recover from Revenge Seeking? 21:40 Is There a Connection Between Addictive Behaviour and Revenge? 24:47 The Difference Between Revenge-Seeking and Self-Defence 33:17 The Muddling of Justice and Revenge 43:46 Revenge Isn’t Evil, It’s Retribution 50:35 What Outcomes Drive Revenge? 56:48 The Legal System is a Professional Revenge Business 58:36 The Cycle of Revenge on Social Media 01:06:50 What is Social Justice? 01:09:10 Are Certain Groups More Susceptible to Revenge? 01:14:55 Warning Signs for Revenge Desire 01:19:12 Strategies to Stop Revenge Desire 01:21:13 What Does Modern Revenge and Forgiveness Culture Look Like? 01:34:43 Find Out More About James - Get access to every episode 10 hours before YouTube by subscribing for free on Spotify - https://spoti.fi/2LSimPn or Apple Podcasts - https://apple.co/2MNqIgw Get my free Reading List of 100 life-changing books here - https://chriswillx.com/books/ Try my productivity energy drink Neutonic here - https://neutonic.com/modernwisdom - Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact/

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Sep 4, 20251h 35mWatch on YouTube ↗

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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Why Revenge Feels Addictive And How Forgiveness Breaks The Cycle

  1. James Kimmel Jr. explains how personal experiences of severe bullying and near-lethal rage led him to study revenge instead of enacting it. He outlines the evolutionary roots of revenge, its modern malfunction in response to psychological rather than survival threats, and the neuroscience showing revenge operates via the same reward circuits as addictions. Kimmel argues that most violence—from domestic abuse to terrorism—is driven by perceived victimization and revenge, not inherent evil, and that forgiveness is a neurologically powerful antidote. He proposes treating revenge as a public health and addiction issue, using education, therapeutic tools like his “Miracle Court” app, and a cultural shift away from glorifying retribution toward normalizing forgiveness and accountability without punishment.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

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Revenge is neurologically addictive, not just a moral failing.

Psychological injuries (shame, humiliation, betrayal) activate the brain’s pain centers, which then trigger the same reward and craving circuits (nucleus accumbens, dorsal striatum, dopamine surges) exploited by drugs, alcohol, and gambling. Acting on revenge despite known negative consequences fits the clinical profile of addiction.

Most violence is driven by perceived victimization and revenge, not “evil.”

From school bullying to mass shootings, intimate-partner homicide, terrorism, and war, data show revenge is the primary motive. People who commit serious harms almost always see themselves as victims first, and labeling them as “evil” obscures the underlying compulsive, grievance-fueled process we could intervene on.

Revenge is about the past; self-defense is about present threats.

Revenge punishes past wrongs, whereas self-defense responds to an imminent danger controlled largely by the amygdala. You can leave toxic situations, set boundaries, or neutralize ongoing threats without crossing into revenge—retaliation for past hurts is what becomes pathological and often destructive.

Forgiveness measurably reduces pain and revenge cravings in the brain.

Imaging studies show that even imagining forgiving someone deactivates the brain’s pain network (anterior insula), quiets reward/craving circuits tied to revenge, and activates the prefrontal cortex responsible for self-control. Clinically, forgiveness is associated with lower blood pressure, less anxiety and depression, and better sleep.

Justice is often used as moral cover for revenge.

The same word “justice” is used for equity and fairness (social justice) and for punishment and retaliation (retributive justice). Political leaders and legal systems frequently frame vengeance—e.g., post‑9/11 wars, punitive sentencing—as “bringing people to justice,” masking revenge as moral necessity and preserving the illusion of the moral high ground.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

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Perpetrators were always victims first.

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Evil is kind of a cop-out. What we’ve called evil is this overwhelming compulsion to harm other people to make ourselves feel better.

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Revenge is punishing people for wrongs of the past. It is not self-defense.

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We went on a twenty-year revenge bender after 9/11.

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Forgiveness is a human superpower we just don’t use and understand well enough.

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James Kimmel’s personal story of bullying, animal killing, and near-violenceEvolutionary and neurological basis of revenge as an addictive pleasurePsychological vs physical harm as triggers for revenge cravingsDistinctions between revenge, self-defense, justice, and accountabilityRevenge as root motivation for most violence and its societal manifestationsForgiveness as a brain-based intervention and health-promoting practicePractical tools and public health approaches to reduce revenge-driven harm

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