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📈 Steal our playbook on how to spot business trends Episode 602: Sam Parr and Shaan Puri talk about how to 10x your odds of success.

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Jun 28, 202458mWatch on YouTube

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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Ed Thorp, Curiosity-Driven Work, and Why Belief Is Step Zero

  1. Sam Parr tells the story of Ed Thorp, a math prodigy who beat blackjack and roulette with probability, built an early wearable computer, and went on to run one of the first quant hedge funds.
  2. Both hosts argue that following genuine curiosity, as Thorp, Feynman and their friend Jack Smith did, leads to interesting lives and often to success, though they disagree on how much privilege that approach requires.
  3. Shaan Puri describes filtering every activity by whether the act itself is rewarding rather than just a deferred payoff, and cites his podcast as an example of a project started on that basis.
  4. Shaan shares examples like OpenAI's Q* leak, Kaggle leaderboards, and the four-minute mile to show that simply knowing someone else has solved a problem raises your odds of solving it.
  5. Shaan closes with the idea that belief is step zero, supported by a Tony Robbins event story, the virtuous cycle of belief and action, and his own failed college blackjack schemes.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Thorp's big outcomes began as playful hobbies

Sam notes that Thorp bought a used roulette table for about $500 and tinkered with it at home with his wife, and that this rudimentary start grew into much larger results.

Filter activities by whether the doing is the reward

Shaan says that instead of finding one passion, he asks at the start of each activity whether he is doing it for a deferred payoff or because he enjoys it. He says this changed his workouts, hobbies and work.

The grind and the interest-driven path can both work

Sam argues that some people, such as a blue-collar father working long hours, have less freedom to follow interests. Shaan counters that interest-driven work leads to better outcomes because people work longer and get better at it. Sam guesses that only about 20-25% of the wealthy people they know succeeded this way.

Knowing a solution exists raises your odds of finding it

Shaan points to the Q* leaks, Kaggle leaderboards and Roger Bannister's four-minute mile, along with his own business channel that produced $30K in a weekend after he heard someone else was succeeding with it. Hearing that someone has done it spurs others to find their own way.

Believing it can be done is step zero

Shaan says that before Thorp could beat the house, he had to believe it was beatable. He adds that cheesy-but-true ideas are underrated because smart people dismiss them.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

And by the way, things that are cheesy but true are underrated, because smart people write off cheesy things 'cause they're cheesy.

— Shaan Puri

step zero is you have to somehow trick yourself into raising your level of belief that it is possible.

— Shaan Puri

It's not a thing. It's a approach and it's a filter.

— Shaan Puri

And I learned that leverage is more important than an edge.

— Shaan Puri

The world wants you to be vanilla.

— Sam Parr

Read the available transcript
Ed Thorp's blackjack and roulette systemsFirst quant hedge fund and Warren Buffett connectionPursuing hobbies out of curiosityFeynman and Jack Smith's first-principles thinkingPrivilege and the grind versus following interestsThe Roger Bannister effectBelief as step zero and the virtuous cycle

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  • Sam Parr

    host

    Entrepreneur and podcaster; co-host of My First Million and founder of The Hustle/Trends.

  • Shaan Puri

    host

    Entrepreneur and podcaster; co-host of My First Million.

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