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My First MillionRyan Holiday Reveals How Much Best Selling Authors Make, Crazy Peter Thiel Stories & More (#370)
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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
Ryan Holiday on publishing money, output systems, and reality distortion risks
- Ryan Holiday explains how bestseller lists work (and sometimes don’t), arguing they’re less meaningful than simply maximizing real readership and sales.
- Ryan Holiday breaks down how book economics and royalties differ by format, emphasizing how decisions like going to paperback can materially change an author’s earnings.
- Ryan Holiday and Sam Parr discuss why prolific output can improve quality, and Ryan describes batching and systems that let him produce across newsletters, books, podcasts, and YouTube.
- Ryan Holiday shares how his definition of admirable success has shifted toward groundedness—being world-class while staying rooted in family and day-to-day reality.
- Ryan Holiday recounts examples of “reality distortion” from entrepreneurship and politics, and contrasts that with slower, humbler paths to mastery and durable achievement.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasBestseller lists can be opaque—and may not reflect total real-world sales.
Ryan Holiday says he no longer cares much about list placement because he’s more focused on selling to as many readers as possible, and he notes that bestseller lists may exclude or flag sales deemed suspicious (including sales through an author-owned bookstore).
Format decisions (hardcover vs. paperback vs. audio/ebook) can be a multi-million-dollar lever for successful authors.
Ryan Holiday describes standard royalty terms as roughly 15% of hardcover list price and 12.5% of paperback list price, and he explains why some authors resist paperback releases: paperbacks usually sell for less, so authors must sell more copies to earn the same money.
Consistent output can be the path to quality, not the enemy of it.
Ryan Holiday argues that “quality vs. quantity” is often a false dichotomy and compares it to stand-up comedians needing lots of stage time; he also says many people claiming to spend years on a project often don’t show “years of work” in the result.
Systems and batching enable high-volume, consistent content without writing everything at the last minute.
Ryan Holiday details his content production system: he writes daily, batches content, and stays scheduled far ahead, while a small team helps translate his work into different mediums (like YouTube) from the core writing.
The most admirable success is “world-class” work paired with everyday groundedness.
Ryan Holiday says he’s increasingly impressed not by status markers (money, rings, fame) but by whether successful people remain grounded—good parents, stable relationships, and an ability to enjoy life now; he cites Manu Ginóbili as an example of elite achievement with “normal” balance.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesOnce you get it once, I feel like you have it, and then you also realize, like, kind of how meaningless things are.
— Ryan Holiday
I have never once heard of someone buying a book because they saw it on a list. Most people don't even know where they would find such a list.
— Ryan Holiday
It’s almost easier to be great than it is to be good, if that makes sense.
— Ryan Holiday
The dangerous thing you take from that is you now, as you said, see yourself as a person who does that, and you see people who tell you that you can't do it or shouldn't do it or criticize you for doing it, you see them as the enemy, right?
— Ryan Holiday
Well, you think that being successful will make you more courageous because you are more secure, but it actually, the rational response to having a lot is to become more risk-averse because you know how hard it was to get it.
— Ryan Holiday
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SPEAKERS
Sam Parr
hostEntrepreneur and co-host of My First Million; founder of The Hustle.
Ryan Holiday
guestBest-selling author and media strategist behind Daily Stoic; author of Discipline Is Destiny.
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