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This Entrepreneur Makes $100M+ With A Portfolio Of 10 Businesses

Shaan Puri (@ShaanVP) and Sam Parr (@TheSamParr) talk to tech investor and entrepreneur Michael Girdley (@girdley), about selling fireworks, how to hire great CEOs, and what it takes to operate a holding company with 10 businesses and…

Shaan PurihostMichael GirdleyguestSam Parrhost
Jun 28, 20221h 1mWatch on YouTube

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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Inside Michael Girdley’s holdco playbook: cash-flow, compounders, and delegation

  1. Michael Girdley describes building Girdley Enterprise as a flexible holding company with roughly 10 major holdings, where he often owns minority stakes rather than 100%.
  2. He contrasts business types in his portfolio—long-term compounders like a software roll-up versus faster cash-flow businesses like a coding bootcamp—and explains why he reinvests most profits.
  3. He explains why the fireworks business is operationally difficult despite generating “multiple tens of millions” in revenue, and credits improvements to putting the right operators in place rather than his own optimizations.
  4. He says Near (hirewithnear.com) is the closest to his ideal model because it rides the offshore-hiring wave and runs with minimal day-to-day involvement from him while he remains meaningfully involved as a funder/partner.
  5. He argues that many people misunderstand holdcos, because succeeding requires a non-operator mindset: not rushing in to solve problems, but letting leadership teams own them.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

A holdco can be built as a mix of long-term “compounders” and near-term cash-flow businesses.

He describes structuring the portfolio so he can pursue different kinds of opportunities—some designed to compound over time (like the software roll-up), others designed to produce cash flow sooner (like services businesses). He says you “can’t live on appreciation,” so he prefers a blend rather than only long-term bets.

Big portfolio revenue doesn’t automatically translate into personal cash; ownership stakes and reinvestment choices matter.

He explains that despite the impressive top-line figure, he often doesn’t pull cash out because he believes reinvesting into the businesses, assets, or new acquisitions is usually better than his alternative options. He also notes his ownership is spread across stakes (e.g., 30–60%) rather than 100% in each operating company.

Fireworks can be huge revenue but operationally brutal—success comes from systems and the right operators, not heroics.

He calls fireworks “the hardest business in the world to run,” citing long lead times, large upfront cash needs, and profitability hinging on a very short selling window. He says it was where he “cut [his] teeth” as a CEO, but the growth came from “getting the right people on the field,” not from him doing operational optimizations.

Service businesses with low capex can be attractive “cash cows,” especially when paired with a mission the owner cares about.

He says the coding bootcamp is the best cash-flow business because it’s services-based with low capex and predictable margins (he frames many small businesses as around 15–20% EBITDA). He also values that it “changes their lives,” aligning with his stated enjoyment of helping people.

He aims to evolve from operator to investor/partner by funding and guiding ventures others execute.

He says the most “easy mode” business in his portfolio is Near (hirewithnear.com) because demand for offshore hiring is strong in both good and bad economies. He describes it as “the apex” of his desired automation: he guided and funded it, holds a meaningful stake, and others did the work.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

You can't, you can't live on appreciation.

— Michael Girdley

Dude, fireworks - here's why I love fireworks. It was the first business that started my whole platform, and I was the CEO of it, and it is the hardest business in the world to run.

— Michael Girdley

We really don't break even until about 7:00 or 8:00 PM on the night of the 4th of July.

— Michael Girdley

I realized about six years into running that business was I am precisely the wrong person to run this business.

— Michael Girdley

Everything you do in a holdco is exactly the opposite. Like, like when there's a problem, you don't rush in and fix it for your company. You actually say, "Man, that really sucks. What are you gonna do about that?"

— Michael Girdley

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Holding company structure and ownership stakesCompounders vs cash-flow businessesReinvestment vs distributionsFireworks business operations and seasonalityCoding bootcamp economics and missionOffshore hiring business (Near) and leverageHiring CEOs, equity, and partnerships

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SPEAKERS

  • Shaan Puri

    host

    Co-host of My First Million; entrepreneur and investor (ex-Bebo/Twitch).

  • Michael Girdley

    guest

    Entrepreneur and holdco operator behind Girdley Enterprises (e.g., Alamo Fireworks, Dura Software).

  • Sam Parr

    host

    Co-host of My First Million; founder of The Hustle and entrepreneur.

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