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Ep #11 | WTF Goes into Building a Fashion, Beauty, or Home Brand? Nikhil w/ Kishore, Raj, and Ananth

It's easy to start in India but very difficult to scale in India. This 3.5-hour podcast will cover everything you need to know about scaling a fashion, beauty, or home brand from zero to the first 20 crores, and then to 100 crores and beyond. We have the most requested podcast guest - Kishore Biyani BACK to drop some knowledge bombs. We also have Raj, who took the route of "digital-first" for his business expansion, and Ananth, who decoded e-commerce and marketplaces first. They delve deep into every important aspect one should know for scaling a brand, such as brand names, logos, category selection, performance marketing, SEO, growth hacking, marketplace strategies, distribution decisions, and community building. It will be a crash course for anyone who wants to take his/her brand from 0 to 1. If you’re below 22 and are working on building a brand from 0 to 1 in fashion, beauty, or home, here’s the chance for that support you’ve been looking for from India’s best business minds. ➡️Apply here: https://tally.so/r/mBp7LN #NikhilKamath: Co-founder of Zerodha, True Beacon and Gruhas Follow Nikhil here: Twitter https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/ Linkedin https://in.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio Koo https://www.kooapp.com/profile/Nikhilkamath #KishoreBiyani: Founder of Future Group (https://www.futuregroup.in/) #AnanthNarayanan: Founder of Mensa Brands Follow Ananth here: Twitter https://twitter.com/anarayanan24 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/narayanan.ananth/ Linkedin https://in.linkedin.com/in/ananth-narayanan1 #RajShamani: Content Creator & Founder of House of X, Figuring Out Podcast Follow Raj here: Twitter https://twitter.com/rajshamani Instagram https://www.instagram.com/rajshamani/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/shamaniraj/ Linkedin https://in.linkedin.com/in/rajshamani Raj’s Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@rajshamani Timestamps 00:00 - Intro 02:06 - Ananth’s Exploratory Career 04:23 - How Ananth became Myntra’s CEO 07:19 - Ananth’s Entry into Pharmacy 09:18 - Ananth's E-commerce Comeback 13:16 - Mensa Brands: What Is It? 19:45 - Unveiling Raj's "Business Side" 21:23 - Raj on Fundraising for House of X 22:44 - China's Live-Streaming: A Rising Trend 23:38 - How Raj Scaled His Family Business 27:47 - Raj's Eye-Opening Customer Observations 29:50 - Why do Customers Upgrade? 31:30 - Using Data for Product Development 33:53 - Raj Reveals Some Old Marketing Tricks 35:52 - Raj Explains Customer Conversion 38:35 - Why Raj left the Family Business for Mumbai 42:11 - Raj’s Content Formula for 400M views 43:30 - How to get Viral on Social Media 46:42 - Kishore’s Data-Driven Insights on Consumption 50:25 - Emerging Consumption Trends: Where is the Opportunity? 52:33 - India's Consumption Demographic: A Breakdown 01:03:16 - Tricks Luxury Brands Are Using 01:08:51 - BNPL & Integration 01:10:28 - Quiet Luxury & Signaling: The Correlation 01:16:37 - Content & Community : Present & Future 01:24:42 - Scaling from 0 to 20 Crores: Ananth & Kishore's Clash 01:30:19 - Western Influence & Brand Names 01:35:14 - Hacks for Branding, Growth Hacking & E-commerce 01:50:36 - Role of Keywords & Performance Marketing 01:52:42 - Navigating Category Selection 01:55:07 - Art of Storytelling in Brand Names 01:59:49 - Does High Price Indicate Better Quality? 02:02:20 - Longevity: The Key to Brand Building 02:04:28 - Unlocking the Beauty Industry: How to Get In? 02:10:09 - Micro-Niche Strategy: Be a Shark in a Pond 02:14:18 - Kishore's Unexpected Industry Picks 02:16:44 - SKU Count Decision in Fashion 02:20:21 - AI & Machine Learning: Transforming Online Shopping 02:25:47 - Reviews & Fake Returns: Part of E-commerce 02:29:22 -Creator & Celebrity Brands: What Lies Ahead? 02:35:59 - Addition vs. Replacement: Category Selection 02:38:10 - What Brands do Raj use? 02:40:05 - Panelists’ take on Virtue Signaling 02:44:44 - Opportunity for an Indian Luxury Brand 02:48:05 - Choosing the Perfect Celebrity or Influencer 02:59:30 - Kishore on his Daughter’s Ventures 03:01:08 - Role of Offline in 100+ Crores Sales 03:02:58 - Decoding Platforms: Valuation & Business Models 03:04:13 - Will ONDC disrupt Platforms? 03:06:44 - Panelists Choose Thriving Sectors! 03:08:53 - Why Nikhil loves Lululemon 03:11:41 - Brands with Stories Do Better! 03:12:27 - Untapped Men Makeup Market 03:14:51 - Immense Rise of Micro-Influencer Ecosystem 03:16:55 - Everyone Reveals Their Biggest Failure! 03:20:15 - Special Announcement: Apply Below! 03:23:10 - Time for some Bloopers! 03:23:59 - Outro #branding #marketing #startups #enterpreneur #entrepreneurship #business #fashion #home #lifestyle #consumerbrands #performancemarketing #growthhacking #bigbazaar #central #mensa #figuringout #D2C #ecommerce #Nikhilkamath #Podcast #WTFiswithNikhilKamath #WTFisPodcast

Nikhil KamathhostAnanth NarayananguestRaj ShamaniguestKishore Biyaniguest
Oct 6, 20233h 23mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Building Indian consumer brands: product, distribution, content, and scaling lessons

  1. Nikhil Kamath hosts Ananth Narayanan (Mensa, ex-Myntra CEO), Kishore Biyani (retail veteran), and Raj Shamani (House of X) to decode what it takes to build brands in fashion, beauty, and home in India amid perceived short-term consumption softness.
  2. They break down India’s consumption reality (a small set of households drives disproportionate “value-added” spend), where growth is shifting (experiences, health/protein, pets), and why the “unbranded → branded” opportunity remains large.
  3. The panel offers pragmatic 0→1 and scaling guidance: start with micro-niches, nail product quality and repeat rates, use marketplaces strategically, then build performance marketing and offline distribution as you cross revenue thresholds.
  4. They also unpack modern brand-building levers—search data for product development, platform-specific growth hacks (reviews, freshness, visibility triggers), community-led marketing, micro-influencers, BNPL, and the psychology of signaling/luxury.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Indian ‘value-added’ consumption is concentrated; target precisely.

Kishore argues ~30M households drive ~60% of consumption value, with especially high concentration in beauty and packaged goods. For new brands seeking 40–60%+ gross margins, designing for this narrower, higher-disposable-income cohort (top ~100 cities, not just metros) is often more viable than chasing the full population.

Consumption cycles can look weak for non-demand reasons.

Short-term softness may reflect festival calendar shifts (Diwali later/‘Adhik Maas’), inflation/interest-rate pressure, post-COVID fatigue, and budget reallocation to experiences (travel, concerts, eating out) rather than a structural collapse.

Micro-niche first: ‘be a shark in a pond.’

All three emphasize entering via a narrow wedge—specific cohort, geography, use-case, or category transition—then expanding. Competing head-on with incumbents (HUL/ITC/Marico) without sharp differentiation is both expensive and strategically risky.

0–20 crores should be product-led, not performance-led.

Ananth’s framework: early scale comes from product quality, reviews, repeat rates, content/community, and disciplined distribution—not heavy paid growth. Performance marketing can inflate top line but masks weak retention and collapses when subsidies stop.

Use marketplaces for reach, but don’t outsource your brand identity.

Ananth suggests an early mix (e.g., 80% marketplace / 20% D2C) to gain distribution and some data; Kishore counters marketplaces constrain how you present the brand. Practical synthesis: marketplaces can validate PMF and volume, while D2C/community builds richer narrative and loyalty.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

It’s very easy to start in India, very hard to scale in India.

Ananth Narayanan

If you can find out a way to make people lazy, you can do a great job—you will be able to sell more.

Raj Shamani

In India, you should follow the festival calendar.

Kishore Biyani

Brands are built on greed, fear, and altruism.

Kishore Biyani

Content builds community, community brings culture, and culture changes the way you buy.

Raj Shamani

Consumption slowdown vs festival-calendar effectsIndia 1/2/3 and concentration of value-added spendHouse of Brands model (Mensa) and gross margin economicsProduct-market fit, reviews, repeat rate, and returns economicsMarketplace vs D2C strategy (0–20 cr and beyond)Growth hacking on Amazon/Myntra: keywords, freshness, visibilitySearch-data-led product development and “null sets”Micro-niches and community-led brand buildingCreator/influencer brands: authenticity, equity structures, tipping-point creatorsLuxury, quiet luxury, and signaling psychologyBNPL integration and premiumizationAI/ML in forecasting, pricing, cataloging; offline’s role at scaleFake returns, review ethics, and trust mechanicsNaming, brand codes, packaging, and longevity

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