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Ep #18 | WTF, Alcohol is a $70B Business in India? | Nikhil Kamath explores Gaps & Opportunities

India has had a long, colourful, and mixed history with Liquor over the centuries, with ancient fermented drinks and traditional liquors like feni and toddy. India today, holds the third-largest market for alcoholic beverages globally, which is remarkable given the challenging business environment of red tape-ism, varying excise duties across states and much more. In episode #18 of “WTF is” Podcast, we have Founders of different sectors in the Liquor Industry of India. Abhishek Khaitan, MD of Radico Khaitan, One of the oldest and largest manufacturers of Indian Made Foreign Liquor (IMFL) in India; Minakshi Singh, Co-founder of SideCar, India’s only entry in the top 100 of the World’s Best Bars; Shuchir Suri, Co founder of Gin Explorer’s Club, India’s biggest gin festival with a footfall of over 100,000 people per edition; and Suraj Shenai, Founder of Goa Brewing Co, crafting ‘non-conformist, modern’ beers that challenge the traditional dominance of German and Belgian flavours. If Euphemism for patriotism is outrightly sold to people, across the world in different pockets, can the same brand-building tactics work for Indian Products too? For additional insight into this industry, here’s a link to explore some of the resources provided by the guests of this episode https://nksqr.notion.site/Additional-Resources-0e194bb2bb4d407bb5dfd63051a84416?pvs=4 #NikhilKamath Co-founder of Zerodha, True Beacon and Gruhas Host #wtfiswithnikhilkamath #wtfispodcast Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/nikhilkamathcio LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio #AbhishekKhaitan MD of Radico Khaitan Twitter - https://x.com/radicokhaitan LinkedIN - https://www.linkedin.com/in/abhishek-khaitan-95098bb4/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/abhishek40/ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/abhishek.khaitan.12 #MinakshiSingh Founder of SideCar, Cocktails & Dreams Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/min.drinks #ShuchirSuri Founder of Jade Forest, Anthem, Gin Explorers Club LinkedIN - https://www.linkedin.com/in/shuchir-suri-058251b/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/shuchirsuri Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/shuchir #SurajShenai Founder of Goa Brewing Company Twitter - https://x.com/goabrewingco LinkedIN - https://www.linkedin.com/in/surajshenai Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/surajshenai/ 00:00:00 - Intro 00:01:30 - Minakshi’s Intro: Part Time Job turned Full time Passion 00:06:00 - Change of course: Bartender turned Marketer 00:08:08 - Big break: Joining World’s biggest Liquor companies 00:08:40 - Building her own bar - Cocktails & Dreams 00:11:53 - Elements of a bar experience | SideCar #1 Bar in India 00:14:32 - Suraj’s Intro: Growing up in Goa 00:16:38 - Learning the ropes | Understanding India’s drinking culture 00:20:00 - Story of the beginning of Goa Brewing Co 00:21:40 - What is Indian Pale Ale? | Hops 00:25:20 - Obsession to start something new | Premiumising Quality 00:32:38 - Shuchir’s Intro: Love for Hosting Events 00:34:00 - Starting a company at 18: Early success to Downfall 00:37:00 - Joining a company | Understanding how companies work 00:38:35 - Starting the Gin Explorers Club, Food Talk India, Anthem, Jade Forest 00:42:10 - Abhishek’s Intro | Innate Passion for Liquor 00:45:10 - Joining Family Business | Overcoming Failures, Observing Trends 00:54:00 - Promoting Indian Craftsmanship Globally 00:58:50 - Objective of this podcast 00:59:34 - Size of the Liquor Industry in India | Psychology of consumption 01:06:32 - Alcohol: Is it good/ bad for you? 01:09:15 - Market Share and Revenue in India 01:10:47 - Steps to Start a Liquor brand | Primary, Secondary, Tertiary Steps 01:26:00 - Opportunities in the Current Trends | Category, Product, Price 01:54:26 - Food Break 01:55:05 - Distribution | Hacks, Storytelling, Picking a Niche 02:12:20 - Marketing Budgets in different states in India 02:15:20 - Revenue Generation Tax in states through liquor 02:17:30 - Nikhil on Long term Investment in Liquor Companies In India 02:24:32 - Celebrity Led Liquor Brands: Do they work? 02:31:46 - Are Social Media Influencers effective in Advertising? 02:35:35 - Is it possible to discern between Good V/s Premium? 02:40:40 - Is Patriotism a good backstory for a product? 02:44:35 - Is Hangover equally proportionate to % of Alcohol? 02:50:05 - Potential of Pre-ready Beverages, Wine store, Online Delivery 03:00:40 - Indian Brands vs International Brands wrt Import Tax 03:02:55 - Registration of Liquor Brands | Excise Duty, Licenses, Challenges 03:10:57 - WTFund Disclaimer: Alcohol consumption is injurious to health. No participants in this video promote alcohol consumption and strongly discourage underage, binge, and careless drinking. All panelists in this show express their own personal views, which do not necessarily reflect the views of the producers or promoters. Please drink responsibly.

Nikhil KamathhostMinakshi SinghguestShuchir SuriguestSuraj ShenaiguestAbhishek Khaitanguest
Jul 3, 20243h 12mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. Why this episode: a practical roadmap to careers & startups in alcohol

    Nikhil sets the goal for the conversation: demystify how young people can build careers or businesses in bars, liquor brands, distribution, and advertising. The panel is introduced as operators across the ecosystem—bar ownership, brewing, events/marketing, and large-scale spirits manufacturing.

  2. Minakshi Singh’s journey: bartender to bar founder (Cocktails & Dreams → SideCar)

    Minakshi shares how a part-time bartending job during hotel management became her calling. She describes early obstacles—especially legal restrictions on women bartending in some Indian states—and how she pivoted into beverage marketing before eventually building her own bars.

  3. Building a ‘great bar’ experience: what makes SideCar #1 in India

    Minakshi breaks down what creates a memorable bar beyond just drinks: hospitality, comfort, service, lighting, music, and customization. She explains how Cocktails & Dreams started lean (founders doing frontline roles) and how SideCar became a consistent award-winning cocktail destination with high cocktail-led revenue.

  4. Suraj Shenai’s path: Kingfisher & Pernod to founding Goa Brewing Co.

    Suraj describes growing up in Goa and entering alcohol through Kingfisher, learning how beer behaves like fast-moving FMCG. After a stint in Pernod across regions and brands, a trip to the US craft beer scene (and first IPA experience) triggered an obsession to build a quality-first Indian craft brewery.

  5. IPA & hops explained: why craft tastes different

    The conversation explains what an India Pale Ale is, why it historically existed (shipping to India), and what hops do in beer. Suraj contrasts mass lagers with hop-forward craft styles and frames IPA as an acquired taste, similar to palate evolution in coffee or cheese.

  6. Goa Brewing’s differentiation: quality, ingredients, pricing, and scale choices

    Suraj details what “craft” means operationally: smaller batch sizes, whole ingredients, and transparency. He compares pricing to mass beer, talks about margins, and describes building the brand for home refrigeration rather than paying for bar placements.

  7. Shuchir Suri’s journey: events → alcobev marketing → Gin Explorers Club

    Shuchir shares building nightlife/event properties young, hitting an early operational crisis, then joining a company to learn corporate systems (invoicing, taxation, vendor management). He explains how Gin Explorers Club turned alcohol’s “dark market” constraints into an advantage by focusing marketing budgets into experiential activations.

  8. Abhishek Khaitan’s story: Radico’s turnaround, brand-building, and premiumisation

    Abhishek recounts joining the family business in crisis in 1996 and pivoting from bottling contracts to building brands. He describes the mechanics of growth (outsourcing/co-packing, young sales teams) and key innovations—8PM, Magic vodka’s rise, and later premium plays like Rampur Single Malt and Jaisalmer gin built on packaging, quality, and Indian identity.

  9. How big is India’s alcohol market—and why India over-indexes on hard liquor

    The panel maps category sizes and explains India’s unique consumption patterns versus other tropical markets. They discuss the “chaar yaar moment,” short leisure windows, and the dominance of 180ml ‘nips’ as bang-for-buck consumption in mass segments, plus the social/psychological role of alcohol as a break from routine.

  10. Starting a liquor brand in India: co-packers, recipes, and the real cost centers

    Nikhil asks for a founder’s roadmap: with ₹10 crore, can you build manufacturing or should you co-pack? The group explains why distilleries are capital-heavy, how co-packing works, how to source a recipe via consultants/master distillers, and why excise listing fees and compliance often consume early budgets more than product development.

  11. Opportunity map: which categories look attractive now (beer, bourbon-style whiskey, rum, heritage spirits, RTDs)

    Each guest proposes where they see the next wave of profitable opportunity: premium beer upgrades, bourbon-style whiskey for cocktails, premium/semi-premium rum, and Indian-heritage spirits/liqueurs with authentic local ingredients. RTDs are debated: the promise is convenience, but distribution/regulation and cold-chain constraints slow adoption.

  12. Distribution & marketing playbook: primaries/secondaries/tertiaries, bar advocacy, events, influencers

    The panel gets tactical on go-to-market: why retail offtake (tertiary) matters more than shipping to distributors (primary), and how new brands should start ‘backwards’ by seeding demand in key bars/shops before courting distributors. They cover bar tie-ups, activation budgets, how events/IPs pool costs, and when influencer marketing works versus premium PR/awards.

  13. Regulation, taxes, and state-by-state chaos: excise, labeling, pricing rules, and GST debate

    They unpack the operational reality that alcohol is a state subject: different listing fees, label rules, pricing constraints, and distribution models by state. The group discusses how heavily states rely on alcohol revenues and why the industry wants GST (input credits, simpler interstate movement), alongside practical pain points like case-size buying and on-trade disadvantages for Indian brands in some markets.

  14. Consumer evolution: women drinking more, premiumisation, hangovers, and what ‘quality’ really means

    The group notes shifting demographics—more women entering the category and improved retail experiences in some cities. They explain why flavors are booming (palate, masking smell, younger consumers) and clarify hangover drivers (congeners, higher alcohols, distillation cuts), generally favoring ‘cleaner’ white spirits for fewer after-effects (in moderation).

  15. Closing: funding reality, celebrity brand debate, online delivery prospects, and WTFund commitments

    Nikhil reflects on alcohol as an investment category: attractive when product quality and India-first differentiation are strong, but slower and regulation-heavy. They touch on online delivery’s promise and risks, and the episode ends with a mini-commitment round where the guests pledge seed money to support a young founder via Nikhil’s WTFund-style initiative.

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