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299 ‒ Optimizing muscle protein synthesis: protein quality and quantity, & the key role of training

View show notes here: https://bit.ly/3Jq79Wy Become a member to receive exclusive content: https://peterattiamd.com/subscribe/ Sign up to receive Peter's email newsletter: https://peterattiamd.com/newsletter/ Luc van Loon is an internationally renowned expert in skeletal muscle metabolism. In this episode, Luc starts with an exploration of the roles of insulin & triglycerides in endurance exercise, highlighting their impact on skeletal muscle metabolism, & he offers profound insights into the significance of protein in this context. He elucidates how different protein types & forms influence muscle protein synthesis rates, exploring the nuances of protein absorption, digestibility, amino acid quality, & their implications for performance & recovery. Delving deeper, he differentiates between animal & plant protein sources, unraveling the distinctive properties of various protein types, from the differences between whey & casein to the emerging trends in collagen protein supplementation. Moreover, Luc dissects the intricate connections among physical activity, lean muscle mass, muscle protein synthesis induced by resistance training, & dietary protein. We discuss: 0:00:00-Intro 0:01:06-Luc’s background & insights about fuel selection during exercise 0:07:35-Fuel utilization during endurance exercise 0:16:14-Fat metabolism, intramuscular lipids, & the nutritional dynamics of endurance sports 0:24:50-The optimal window for replenishing intramuscular fat stores & glycogen post-exercise 0:32:50-Luc’s interest in protein metabolism & exploration of amino acids' dual role as building blocks & signaling molecules in driving muscle protein synthesis 0:40:15-How protein metabolism differs between sedentary individuals & those engaged in predominantly strength training or endurance training 0:53:14-The basics of how proteins are digested & absorbed, & how muscle protein synthesis is measured 1:03:23-How factors like food texture, cooking methods, & protein composition impact muscle protein synthesis, & the importance of protein distribution throughout the day 1:07:43-Differences in whey & casein proteins, & the ability of ingested protein to stimulate muscle protein synthesis 1:13:46-Dietary protein distribution & quantity for the maximization of muscle protein synthesis 1:22:43-Muscle loss with age & inactivity & the importance of resistance exercise to maintain type II muscle fibers 1:35:02-Differences between whey & casein proteins, & the importance of both quantity & quality of protein sources 1:44:10-Optimizing muscle protein synthesis: exercise, timing of protein intake, protein quality 1:54:11-How to preserve muscle while trying to lose weight 2:04:41-Anabolic resistance & overcoming it with physical activity 2:16:15-Importance of protein intake & physical activity in hospitalized patients 2:23:41-Reviewing the efficacy of collagen supplements 2:31:45-Plant-based diets: how to ensure a balance of amino acids, & other considerations 2:35:12-Protein metabolism in the brain -------- About: The Peter Attia Drive is a deep-dive podcast focusing on maximizing longevity, & all that goes into that from physical to cognitive to emotional health. With over 90 million episodes downloaded, it features topics including exercise, nutritional biochemistry, cardiovascular disease, Alzheimer’s disease, cancer, mental health, & much more. Peter Attia is the founder of Early Medical, a medical practice that applies the principles of Medicine 3.0 to patients with the goal of lengthening their lifespan & simultaneously improving their healthspan. Learn more: https://peterattiamd.com Connect with Peter on: Facebook: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDFB Twitter: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDTW Instagram: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDIG Subscribe to The Drive: Apple Podcast: http://bit.ly/TheDriveApplePodcasts Overcast: http://bit.ly/TheDriveOvercast Spotify: http://bit.ly/TheDriveSpotify Google Podcasts: http://bit.ly/TheDriveGoogle Disclaimer: This podcast is for general informational purposes only & does not constitute the practice of medicine, nursing, or other professional healthcare services, including the giving of medical advice. No doctor-patient relationship is formed. The use of this information & the materials linked to this podcast is at the user's own risk. The content on this podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical condition they have, & they should seek the assistance of their healthcare professionals for any such conditions. I take conflicts of interest very seriously. For all of my disclosures & the companies I invest in or advise, please visit my website where I keep an up-to-date & active list of such companies. For a full list of our registered & unregistered trademarks, trade names, & service marks, please review our Terms of Use: https://peterattiamd.com/terms-of-use/

Peter AttiahostLuc van Loonguest
Apr 22, 20242h 38mWatch on YouTube ↗

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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Luc van Loon on Protein, Training, and Muscle Maintenance Across Aging

  1. Van Loon traces his move from studying fuel selection in endurance exercise, including intramuscular fat use and the athlete's paradox, to protein metabolism after noticing structural differences between athletes' and sedentary diabetics' muscle biopsies.
  2. He describes how stable isotope tracers, including protein labeled by infusing a cow, let his lab measure digestion, absorption, and muscle protein synthesis, showing that food form, cooking, chewing, protein type, and meal matrix change the anabolic response.
  3. His recent study found that 100 grams of milk protein kept stimulating muscle protein synthesis for 12 hours, which suggests earlier 20-gram limits partly reflected short measurement windows, though he still recommends spreading protein across the day.
  4. He argues that anabolic resistance and age-related muscle loss stem largely from short periods of inactivity, since a week of leg immobilization produced a 35% anabolic resistance and training normalized older muscle, even in prostate cancer patients on androgen deprivation.
  5. He and Attia discuss practical points: resistance training preserves muscle in a calorie deficit, hospital patients eat far too little protein, collagen supplements have unproven benefits, and plant-based foods are lower in quality when intake is low.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Turnover of intramuscular fat, not its amount, separates athletes from diabetics

Both groups store a lot of intramyocellular lipid, but athletes use and rebuild it while diabetics, whose blood is full of free fatty acids, barely use it; blocking adipose lipolysis during exercise made diabetics use it and improved post-exercise insulin sensitivity.

Amino acids are both building blocks and signals

Van Loon says amino acids directly activate the mTOR pathway, but stimulation is sustained only if all the building blocks are present, which is why milk protein outlasts an equal amount of branched-chain amino acids.

Digestion speed and leucine content shape the anabolic response

Minced meat, cooked eggs, and whey are digested faster than steak, raw eggs, and micellar casein, and whey's higher leucine content gives it a bigger response even when casein is predigested.

Protein dose limits may reflect short measurement windows

Studies showing 20 grams equals 40 grams typically measured four to six hours, while his 100-gram study showed synthesis still elevated at 12 hours, though he does not conclude people should abandon distributing protein across meals.

Whole-food quality matters, especially at low intake

A vegan whole-food meal matched for energy and protein produced no measurable anabolic response versus a large one from an omnivorous meal, and he says quality can be offset by quantity but becomes important in people eating little.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

So I always ask people to look at their own arm and realize that in 50 to 100 days they have a new arm.

— Luc van Loon

So muscle on itself is actually doesn't seem to get that old. It actually still responds completely normal, and I can normalize for age by physical activity.

— Luc van Loon

You don't have to start exercising when you're 40 to actually have good muscle when you're 80. You can still do it at 70.

— Luc van Loon

Consistent training is the benefit. Consistent training so that every meal is a greater impact on your muscle protein synthesis.

— Luc van Loon

The muscle is not that, that, that intelligent. The muscle just takes what it can get. It's very opportunistic.

— Luc van Loon

Intramuscular fat and the athlete's paradoxStable isotope tracers and measuring muscle protein synthesisProtein digestion, food texture, and cookingWhey versus casein and leucine contentProtein dose, distribution, and timingAnabolic resistance, inactivity, and agingHospital nutrition and muscle loss

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