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343–The evolving role of radiation: cancer treatment, low-dose treatments for arthritis, & much more

Sanjay Mehta is a radiation oncologist with over 25 years of experience, and is currently the president of Century Cancer Centers in Houston, Texas (drsanjaymehta.com). In this episode, Sanjay explores the rapidly evolving field of radiation oncology, addressing common misconceptions about radiation exposure. He delves into radiation's critical role in modern oncology, examining recent advancements that precisely target tumors while minimizing damage to surrounding healthy tissues & reducing side effects, with specific insights into breast, prostate, & brain cancers. Sanjay discusses fascinating international practices involving low-dose radiation therapy for inflammatory conditions such as arthritis, tendonitis, & sports injuries, highlighting its effectiveness & potential for wider adoption in the United States. Wrapping up on a lighter note, Peter & Sanjay discuss their mutual passion for cars & reveal how this shared interest first brought them together. View show notes here: https://bit.ly/3Yg3ySA Become a member to receive exclusive content: https://peterattiamd.com/subscribe/ Sign up to receive Peter's email newsletter: https://peterattiamd.com/newsletter/ 0:00:00-Intro 0:01:34-How radiation oncology became a distinct, rapidly evolving medical specialty 0:04:47-Defining radiation, & common misconceptions about radiation exposure 0:08:48-How radiation doses are measured, real-world examples of radiation exposure, & safety practices 0:14:28-Radiation doses from common medical imaging tests, & why benefits of routine imaging outweigh risks 0:25:10-Therapeutic radiation oncology: the evolution of breast cancer treatment toward less invasive surgery combined with targeted radiation 0:29:11-Modern radiation oncology treatments for breast cancer—minimizing risks & maximizing patient comfort & outcomes 0:42:47-How advances in radiation dosing, technology, & treatment precision have significantly reduced side effects 0:48:01-How breast implants affect radiation treatment 0:51:55-Radiation therapy for prostate cancer: advancements in precision, effectiveness, & patient selection criteria 0:59:56-Radiation therapy options for inoperable prostate cancer or those seeking alternatives to surgery 1:11:42-How patients can effectively evaluate & select a radiation oncologist 1:14:44-Radiation therapy for brain cancer: the shift toward precise, targeted techniques that minimize cognitive side effects, & remaining challenges 1:25:33-Origins of radiophobia & how it influenced perceptions of radiation use in medicine 1:31:49-Treating chronic inflammatory conditions such as tendinitis & arthritis low-dose radiation 1:38:57-Low-dose radiation to treat spine injuries, scar tissue, fibrosis, keloids 1:45:11-Barriers preventing widespread adoption of low-dose radiation therapy for inflammatory conditions 1:50:49-Durability & versatility of low-dose radiation therapy in treating chronic inflammatory conditions 1:55:15-Sanjay’s talent as a drummer 1:58:15-Peter & Sanjay’s shared passion for cars & racing -------- About: The Peter Attia Drive is a deep-dive podcast focusing on maximizing longevity, and all that goes into that from physical to cognitive to emotional health. With over 90 million episodes downloaded, it features topics including exercise, nutritional biochemistry, cardiovascular disease, Alzheimer’s disease, cancer, mental health, and much more. Peter Attia is the founder of Early Medical, a medical practice that applies the principles of Medicine 3.0 to patients with the goal of lengthening their lifespan and simultaneously improving their healthspan. Learn more: https://peterattiamd.com Connect with Peter on: Facebook: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDFB Twitter: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDTW Instagram: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDIG Subscribe to The Drive: Apple Podcast: http://bit.ly/TheDriveApplePodcasts Overcast: http://bit.ly/TheDriveOvercast Spotify: http://bit.ly/TheDriveSpotify Disclaimer: This podcast is for general informational purposes only and does not constitute the practice of medicine, nursing, or other professional healthcare services, including the giving of medical advice. No doctor-patient relationship is formed. The use of this information and the materials linked to this podcast is at the user's own risk. The content on this podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical condition they have, and they should seek the assistance of their healthcare professionals for any such conditions. I take conflicts of interest very seriously. For all of my disclosures and the companies I invest in or advise, please visit my website where I keep an up-to-date and active list of such companies. For a full list of our registered and unregistered trademarks, trade names, and service marks, please review our Terms of Use: https://peterattiamd.com/terms-of-use/

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Apr 7, 20252h 25mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Radiation Oncologist Explains Modern Cancer Radiotherapy and Low-Dose Treatment for Arthritis

  1. Sanjay Mehta explains radiation physics and dose units, arguing that exposures in the millisievert range from imaging are minimal and that the linear no-threshold model overstates low-dose risk.
  2. Modern image-guided, computer-planned radiotherapy has sharply reduced side effects in breast, prostate and brain cancer, with shorter courses, more homogeneous doses and better sparing of nearby organs.
  3. For prostate cancer, Mehta says modern radiation cure rates are essentially equivalent to surgery, with genomic and AI tests like Decipher and Artera now helping some patients skip androgen deprivation.
  4. Mehta traces US radiophobia to Cold War nuclear fears, the radium dial painters and other historical events, noting that many outcomes from high exposures were milder than expected.
  5. Mehta describes using German-protocol low-dose radiation, such as 3 gray in six fractions, for tendinitis, plantar fasciitis, arthritis and keloids, and says adoption is limited by awareness, turf concerns and a lack of randomized trials.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Non-ionizing radiation cannot damage DNA, while ionizing radiation can

Mehta says radio waves, microwaves and visible light lack the energy to eject electrons, so cellphone cancer fears are fallacies, whereas X-rays and higher-energy radiation can damage DNA.

Low-dose diagnostic exposures are considered negligible compared with their benefits

Mehta would not skimp on dental X-rays, mammograms or cardiac imaging and says the risk-benefit ratio is heavily in favor of doing them, while questioning the linear no-threshold extrapolation to low doses.

Precision and dose per fraction matter more than total dose

Breast treatment has moved from about 50 gray to about 40 gray in 15 fractions with an equivalent biological dose, and computer planning removes the hot and cold spots that once caused burns and recurrences.

Modern prostate radiation is comparable to surgery in cure rates with few radiation side effects

Mehta says precise dosing, full-bladder and empty-bowel coaching and daily imaging keep dose to the rectum, bladder and penile bulb low, and that genomic and AI tests can identify some patients who can avoid androgen deprivation.

Brain radiation has shifted toward smaller, targeted fields

Whole-brain radiation has dropped to roughly 10% of its former use, and IMRT can carve dose out of the hippocampus to reduce cognitive side effects, though glioblastoma remains unsolved.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

It comes down to two things. You want, you wanna be cured, cure rate is key, but quality of life is equally important, if not more important for most people.

— Sanjay Mehta

It's highly underutilized at this point, and the Europeans have shown us the way. It clearly works, and America just has to catch up.

— Sanjay Mehta

Patients come in one day, they can't grip a doorknob or lift a gallon of milk out of their fridge, and after six treatments, they can, and they're just, they think you hung the moon.

— Sanjay Mehta

I think the human body, w- we- we're evolved really to handle this to a larger degree than we realize because, again, mammalian DNA, we came from, you know, the background of, of the animal kingdom where there was tons of exposure from natural cosmic rays and whatnot

— Sanjay Mehta

I don't think patients will have any patience for turf wars.

— Peter Attia

Radiation physics and dose unitsLow-dose risk and the linear no-threshold modelBreast cancer radiotherapy planningProstate cancer radiation versus surgeryBrain tumor radiation and hippocampal sparingOrigins of radiophobiaLow-dose radiation for inflammatory conditions

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