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357 ‒ A new era of longevity science: models of aging, rapamycin trials, biological clocks, & more

Brian Kennedy is a renowned biologist, leader in aging research, & director of the Center for Healthy Longevity at the National University of Singapore. In this episode, Brian shares insights from ongoing human aging studies, including clinical trials of rapamycin & how dosing strategies, timing, & exercise may influence outcomes. He presents two key models of aging—one as a linear accumulation of biological decline & the other as an exponential rise in mortality risk—& explains why traditional models of aging fall short. He also explains why most current aging biomarkers lack clinical utility & describes how his team is working to develop a more actionable biological clock. Additional topics include the potential of compounds like alpha-ketoglutarate, urolithin A, & NAD boosters, along with how lifestyle interventions—such as VO2 max training, strength building, & the use of GLP-1 & SGLT2 drugs—may contribute to longer, healthier lives. View show notes here: https://bit.ly/44ShpRB Become a member to receive exclusive content: https://peterattiamd.com/subscribe/ Sign up to receive Peter's email newsletter: https://peterattiamd.com/newsletter/ 0:00:00-Intro 0:01:15-Brian’s journey from the Buck Institute to Singapore, & the global evolution of aging research 0:09:12-Rethinking the biology of aging 0:14:13-How inflammation & mTOR signaling may play a central, causal role in aging 0:18:00-Biological role of mTOR in aging, & the potential of rapamycin to slow aging & enhance immune resilience 0:23:32-Aging as a linear decline in resilience overlaid with non-linear health fluctuations 0:36:03-Speculating on the future of longevity: slowing biological aging through noise reduction & reprogramming 0:42:18-The role of the epigenome in aging, & the limits of methylation clocks 0:47:14-Balancing the quest for immortality with the urgent need to improve late-life healthspan 0:52:16-Comparing the big 4 chronic diseases: which are the most inevitable & modifiable? 0:57:27-Exploring potential benefits of rapamycin: how Brian is testing this & other interventions in humans 1:09:14-Testing alpha-ketoglutarate (AKG) for healthspan benefits in aging [1:01:45]; 1:13:41-Exploring urolithin A’s potential to enhance mitochondrial health, reduce frailty, & slow aging 1:17:35-Potential of sublingual NAD for longevity 1:26:50-Other interventions that may promote longevity: spermidine, 17𝛼-estradiol, HRT, & more 1:34:33-Biological aging clocks, clinical biomarkers, & a new path to proactive longevity care 1:45:01-Evaluating rapamycin, metformin, & GLP-1s for longevity in healthy individuals 1:51:19-Why muscle, strength, & fitness are the strongest predictors of healthspan 1:53:37-Why combining too many longevity interventions may backfire 1:56:06-How AI integration could accelerate breakthroughs in aging research 2:02:07-Need to balance innovation with safety in longevity clinics 2:10:50-Peter’s reflections on emerging interventions & the promise of combining proven aging compounds -------- About: The Peter Attia Drive is a deep-dive podcast focusing on maximizing longevity, & all that goes into that from physical to cognitive to emotional health. With over 90 million episodes downloaded, it features topics including exercise, nutritional biochemistry, cardiovascular disease, Alzheimer’s disease, cancer, mental health, & much more. Peter Attia is the founder of Early Medical, a medical practice that applies the principles of Medicine 3.0 to patients with the goal of lengthening their lifespan & simultaneously improving their healthspan. Learn more: https://peterattiamd.com Connect with Peter on: Facebook: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDFB Twitter: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDTW Instagram: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDIG Subscribe to The Drive: Apple Podcast: http://bit.ly/TheDriveApplePodcasts Overcast: http://bit.ly/TheDriveOvercast Spotify: http://bit.ly/TheDriveSpotify Google Podcasts: http://bit.ly/TheDriveGoogle Disclaimer: This podcast is for general informational purposes only and does not constitute the practice of medicine, nursing, or other professional healthcare services, including the giving of medical advice. No doctor-patient relationship is formed. The use of this information and the materials linked to this podcast is at the user's own risk. The content on this podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical condition they have, and they should seek the assistance of their healthcare professionals for any such conditions. I take conflicts of interest very seriously. For all of my disclosures and the companies I invest in or advise, please visit my website where I keep an up-to-date and active list of such companies. For a full list of our registered and unregistered trademarks, trade names, and service marks, please review our Terms of Use: https://peterattiamd.com/terms-of-use/

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Jul 21, 20252h 12mWatch on YouTube ↗

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July 21, 2025
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Brian Kennedy is a renowned biologist, leader in aging research, & director of the Center for Healthy Longevity at the National University of Singapore. In this episode, Brian shares insights from ongoing human aging studies, including clinical trials of rapamycin & how dosing strategies, timing, & exercise may influence outcomes. He presents two key models of aging—one as a linear accumulation of biological decline & the other as an exponential rise in mortality risk—& explains why traditional models of aging fall short. He also explains why most current aging biomarkers lack clinical utility & describes how his team is working to develop a more actionable biological clock. Additional topics include the potential of compounds like alpha-ketoglutarate, urolithin A, & NAD boosters, along with how lifestyle interventions—such as VO2 max training, strength building, & the use of GLP-1 & SGLT2 drugs—may contribute to longer, healthier lives. View show notes here: https://bit.ly/44ShpRB Become a member to receive exclusive content: https://peterattiamd.com/subscribe/ Sign up to receive Peter's email newsletter: https://peterattiamd.com/newsletter/ 0:00:00-Intro 0:01:15-Brian’s journey from the Buck Institute to Singapore, & the global evolution of aging research 0:09:12-Rethinking the biology of aging 0:14:13-How inflammation & mTOR signaling may play a central, causal role in aging 0:18:00-Biological role of mTOR in aging, & the potential of rapamycin to slow aging & enhance immune resilience 0:23:32-Aging as a linear decline in resilience overlaid with non-linear health fluctuations 0:36:03-Speculating on the future of longevity: slowing biological aging through noise reduction & reprogramming 0:42:18-The role of the epigenome in aging, & the limits of methylation clocks 0:47:14-Balancing the quest for immortality with the urgent need to improve late-life healthspan 0:52:16-Comparing the big 4 chronic diseases: which are the most inevitable & modifiable? 0:57:27-Exploring potential benefits of rapamycin: how Brian is testing this & other interventions in humans 1:09:14-Testing alpha-ketoglutarate (AKG) for healthspan benefits in aging [1:01:45]; 1:13:41-Exploring urolithin A’s potential to enhance mitochondrial health, reduce frailty, & slow aging 1:17:35-Potential of sublingual NAD for longevity 1:26:50-Other interventions that may promote longevity: spermidine, 17𝛼-estradiol, HRT, & more 1:34:33-Biological aging clocks, clinical biomarkers, & a new path to proactive longevity care 1:45:01-Evaluating rapamycin, metformin, & GLP-1s for longevity in healthy individuals 1:51:19-Why muscle, strength, & fitness are the strongest predictors of healthspan 1:53:37-Why combining too many longevity interventions may backfire 1:56:06-How AI integration could accelerate breakthroughs in aging research 2:02:07-Need to balance innovation with safety in longevity clinics 2:10:50-Peter’s reflections on emerging interventions & the promise of combining proven aging compounds -------- About: The Peter Attia Drive is a deep-dive podcast focusing on maximizing longevity, & all that goes into that from physical to cognitive to emotional health. With over 90 million episodes downloaded, it features topics including exercise, nutritional biochemistry, cardiovascular disease, Alzheimer’s disease, cancer, mental health, & much more. Peter Attia is the founder of Early Medical, a medical practice that applies the principles of Medicine 3.0 to patients with the goal of lengthening their lifespan & simultaneously improving their healthspan. Learn more: https://peterattiamd.com Connect with Peter on: Facebook: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDFB Twitter: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDTW Instagram: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDIG Subscribe to The Drive: Apple Podcast: http://bit.ly/TheDriveApplePodcasts Overcast: http://bit.ly/TheDriveOvercast Spotify: http://bit.ly/TheDriveSpotify Google Podcasts: http://bit.ly/TheDriveGoogle Disclaimer: This podcast is for general informational purposes only and does not constitute the practice of medicine, nursing, or other professional healthcare services, including the giving of medical advice. No doctor-patient relationship is formed. The use of this information and the materials linked to this podcast is at the user's own risk. The content on this podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical condition they have, and they should seek the assistance of their healthcare professionals for any such conditions. I take conflicts of interest very seriously. For all of my disclosures and the companies I invest in or advise, please visit my website where I keep an up-to-date and active list of such companies. For a full list of our registered and unregistered trademarks, trade names, and service marks, please review our Terms of Use: https://peterattiamd.com/terms-of-use/

SPEAKERS

  • Peter Attia

    host

    Physician and host of The Drive podcast focused on longevity and metabolic health.

  • Brian Kennedy

    guest

    Aging and longevity researcher; former CEO of the Buck Institute for Research on Aging with leadership roles in Singapore-based geroscience programs.

EPISODE SUMMARY

In this episode of Peter Attia MD, featuring Peter Attia and Brian Kennedy, 357 ‒ A new era of longevity science: models of aging, rapamycin trials, biological clocks, & more explores brian Kennedy and Peter Attia on aging models, rapamycin, clocks, supplements Kennedy argues that aging is best understood as a network losing resilience, with the hallmarks of aging being outputs rather than independent causes, and he points to mTOR and chronic inflammation as central drivers.

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