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375 - The ketogenic diet, ketosis, and hyperbaric oxygen: weight loss, cognition, cancer, and more

Dom D'Agostino is a neuroscientist & professor at the forefront of metabolic therapies, including ketogenic diets, exogenous ketones, & hyperbaric oxygen. In this episode, Dom breaks down nutritional versus supplemental ketosis, defines meaningful ketone thresholds, & outlines practical ways to achieve ketosis. He explains how a ketogenic diet can support metabolic health & weight loss, & advises on how to maintain adequate protein & avoid common mistakes. Dom surveys the growing landscape of exogenous ketones—from salts & esters to 1,3-butanediol—& effective pairings like caffeine, MCT oil, & alpha-GPC. He highlights the role of ketogenic therapy in cancer (particularly glioblastoma) & its promise for neurodegenerative diseases. The conversation also covers recommended hyperbaric oxygen protocols for brain injuries & cognitive function, situations where fasting or ketones offer cognitive & anti-inflammatory benefits, & touches on the carnivore diet as a ketogenic variant with potential relevance for autoimmune & metabolic conditions. View show notes here: https://bit.ly/4rNx9Af Become a member to receive exclusive content: https://peterattiamd.com/subscribe/ Sign up to receive Peter's email newsletter: https://peterattiamd.com/newsletter/ 0:00:00-Intro 0:00:11-Dom & Peter’s shared interest in ketosis 0:05:40-Dom’s work for the Navy on oxygen toxicity 0:14:20-Nutritional ketosis defined & how fasting & diet generate therapeutic ketones 0:18:58-History of ketogenic diets for epilepsy, & evidence showing ketones reduce seizure activity & strengthen brain resilience 0:25:08-Dom’s personal experience on the ketogenic diet: tracking macros, protein, & ketone levels 0:33:05-Using a ketogenic diet for weight loss: guidance on protein, fiber, calorie tracking, lipid monitoring 0:41:02-Protein on ketogenic diets: rationale for higher intake 0:44:56-Incorporating carbohydrates into keto 0:48:21-The carnivore diet 0:53:10-Early exogenous ketones 1:06:31-The progression of exogenous ketones: why BHB monoesters & ketone salts emerged as better alternatives 1:11:46-Ketone salts: easing the transition into ketosis, dosing, & how they compare to esters 1:18:06-The differences between D- & L-β-hydroxybutyrate, & how racemic mixtures may elevate ketones longer 1:25:54-How ketosis may boost NAD 1:30:34-Emerging evidence for using a ketogenic diet to treat anorexia & other psychiatric disorders 1:34:18-Potential cognitive & performance benefits of ketone supplementation, & why pushing ketones too high can be dangerous 1:40:25-Applications for ketone esters, & why ketone salts or MCT-blended formulations may be safer & more practical 1:46:37-The role of a ketogenic diet in treating cancer 1:59:31-The potential of a ketogenic diet for treating Alzheimer’s disease 2:09:45-Tools for cognitive enhancement: ketones, alpha-GPC, MCT, caffeine, strategic fasting 2:11:26-Hyperbaric oxygen therapy for concussion, TBI, PTSD, & cognitive function 2:20:30-Peter’s takeaways -------- About: The Peter Attia Drive is a deep-dive podcast focusing on maximizing longevity, & all that goes into that from physical to cognitive to emotional health. With over 90 million episodes downloaded, it features topics including exercise, nutritional biochemistry, cardiovascular disease, Alzheimer’s disease, cancer, mental health, & much more. Peter Attia is the founder of Early Medical, a medical practice that applies the principles of Medicine 3.0 to patients with the goal of lengthening their lifespan & simultaneously improving their healthspan. Learn more: https://peterattiamd.com Connect with Peter on: Facebook: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDFB Twitter: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDTW Instagram: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDIG Subscribe to The Drive: Apple Podcast: http://bit.ly/TheDriveApplePodcasts Overcast: http://bit.ly/TheDriveOvercast Spotify: http://bit.ly/TheDriveSpotify Google Podcasts: http://bit.ly/TheDriveGoogle Disclaimer: This podcast is for general informational purposes only and does not constitute the practice of medicine, nursing, or other professional healthcare services, including the giving of medical advice. No doctor-patient relationship is formed. The use of this information and the materials linked to this podcast is at the user's own risk. The content on this podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical condition they have, and they should seek the assistance of their healthcare professionals for any such conditions. I take conflicts of interest very seriously. For all of my disclosures and the companies I invest in or advise, please visit my website where I keep an up-to-date and active list of such companies. For a full list of our registered and unregistered trademarks, trade names, and service marks, please review our Terms of Use: https://peterattiamd.com/terms-of-use/

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Dec 8, 20252h 25mWatch on YouTube ↗

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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Dom D'Agostino on ketosis, exogenous ketones, cancer, Alzheimer's and hyperbaric oxygen

  1. D'Agostino explains how his Navy-funded work on oxygen toxicity seizures led him from drug research to ketogenic diets, which he says help about two-thirds of children with drug-resistant epilepsy.
  2. He gives practical keto guidance: track calories, macros, blood ketones and lipids, favor high protein (about 220 g for his 220-pound frame) and fibrous carbs, and ease in with electrolyte-ketone salts.
  3. The two discuss the evolution of exogenous ketones from 1,3-butanediol to esters and salts, covering D versus L enantiomers, liver and insulin effects, and why he favors electrolyte salts or MCT blends and warns that ketones above about two millimolar from supplements can be risky.
  4. On cancer and Alzheimer's, D'Agostino describes a metabolic therapy framework and the promise of ketones for glucose hypometabolism, while Attia presses on the lack of randomized trials and why they are hard to fund.
  5. They close on hyperbaric oxygen, where D'Agostino sees possible benefit for early concussion and TBI and points to a large sham-controlled USF trial in veterans, while Attia remains skeptical about cost and time commitment.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Ketogenic diets can control seizures when drugs fail

D'Agostino says about two-thirds of children with drug-resistant epilepsy respond, roughly 30-40% of adults do, and a subset of super responders stay seizure-free after coming off the diet.

Protein and calorie tracking matter on keto

D'Agostino lost strength when his protein dropped, now eats up to about 220 g daily, and says he always underestimated his calories, which is why he says tracking is the top mistake to avoid.

Ketone salts are gentler than esters for most people

He says salts raise ketones more slowly without triggering insulin release, avoid the 1,3-butanediol liver and narcotic issues, and can ease the transition into ketosis by replacing lost electrolytes.

Higher ketone levels are not better

D'Agostino notes that animals given high-dose esters have died from ketoacidosis, and says supplemental ketones above about two millimolar risk counterregulatory insulin release and acidification, with one to two being an ideal range.

Racemic BHB may act as a timed-release signaling molecule

D is burned quickly for fuel, while L is metabolized three to four times slower and may keep anti-inflammatory and epigenetic signaling active, which is why D'Agostino favors DL mixtures.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

The ketogenic diet is indeed a magical diet in the way that, uh, it remarkably changes our physiology and there's no other diet, uh, that exists that can, for example, manage drug-resistant seizures, and it does that because it profoundly changes our fuel system, our physiology, our biochemistry, and our neuropharmacology.

— Dom D'Agostino

simple caloric restriction or creating even like a 10% or 20% energy deficit will be the big lever that's gonna cure 90% of what most people are seeking the ketogenic diet for. And you could do that with a standard diet.

— Dom D'Agostino

I view a ketogenic diet as a prescription metabolic therapy. So that's the world that I come from. You know, and then there's like, you know, there's clinical keto and then there's, like, internet keto.

— Dom D'Agostino

higher ketones are not advantageous and I think potentially very problematic.

— Dom D'Agostino

Your genes are not your destiny.

— Dom D'Agostino

Oxygen toxicity and Navy diving researchKetogenic diet for epilepsyKeto for weight loss, protein and trackingCarnivore diet and ketosisExogenous ketones: esters, salts, 1,3-butanediolD vs L beta-hydroxybutyrate and NADKetogenic therapy in cancer and Alzheimer's

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