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How Fructose Drives Metabolic Disease | Rick Johnson, M.D.

View episode show notes here: https://bit.ly/3ugel18 Rick Johnson, Professor of Nephrology at the University of Colorado and a previous guest on The Drive, returns for a follow-up about unique features of fructose metabolism, and how this system that aided the survival of human ancestors has become potentially hazardous based on our culture’s dietary norms. In this episode, Rick explains how the body can generate fructose from glucose and how circulating glucose and salt levels can activate this conversion. He discusses the decline in metabolic flexibility associated with aging, as well as how factors such as sugar intake or menopause-associated hormone changes can alter responses to sugar across a lifetime. In addition, Rick lays out strategies for combating the development of metabolic illness using dietary changes and pharmaceutical therapies, and he discusses the impact of fructose metabolism and uric acid on kidney function and blood pressure. He concludes with a discussion of vasopressin, a hormone that facilitates fructose’s effects on weight gain and insulin resistance. We discuss: 00:00:00 - Intro 00:00:10 - Unique features of fructose metabolism and why it matters 00:09:00 - A primer on fructose metabolism and uric acid 00:21:04 - Endogenous fructose production, the polyol pathway, and the effect of non-fructose sugars 00:28:20 - Findings from animal studies of glucose and fructose consumption 00:45:06 - What calorie-controlled studies say about the claim that a “calorie is a calorie” 00:56:45 - Implications for aging and disease 01:08:58 - Impact of endogenous fructose production on obesity and metabolic syndrome 01:12:43 - Why vulnerability to the negative effects of sugar increases with age and menopause 01:26:43 - Dietary strategies to reduce the negative impact of fructose 01:43:56 - The role of hypertension in chronic disease and tips for lowering blood pressure 01:54:16 - The impact of fructose and uric acid on kidney function and blood pressure 02:04:50 - The potential role of sodium in hypertension, obesity, and metabolic syndrome 02:11:18 - The role of vasopressin in metabolic disease -------- About: The Peter Attia Drive is a weekly, ultra-deep-dive podcast focusing on maximizing health, longevity, critical thinking…and a few other things. With over 35 million episodes downloaded, it features topics including fasting, ketosis, Alzheimer’s disease, cancer, mental health, and much more. Peter is a physician focusing on the applied science of longevity. His practice deals extensively with nutritional interventions, exercise physiology, sleep physiology, emotional and mental health, and pharmacology to increase lifespan (delay the onset of chronic disease), while simultaneously improving healthspan (quality of life). Learn more: https://bit.ly/3AU1GlM Subscribe to receive exclusive subscriber-only content: https://bit.ly/3IYxadj Sign up to receive Peter's email newsletter: https://bit.ly/3Ghrh9i Connect with Peter on: Facebook: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDFB Twitter: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDTW Instagram: http://bit.ly/PeterAttiaMDIG Subscribe to The Drive: Apple Podcast: http://bit.ly/TheDriveApplePodcasts Overcast: http://bit.ly/TheDriveOvercast Spotify: http://bit.ly/TheDriveSpotify Google Podcasts: http://bit.ly/TheDriveGoogle

Peter AttiahostDr. Rick Johnsonguest
Feb 7, 20222h 23mWatch on YouTube ↗

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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Rick Johnson on Fructose, Uric Acid, Salt, and Metabolic Disease

  1. Johnson says fructokinase phosphorylates fructose without negative feedback, depleting ATP and generating uric acid, which causes mitochondrial oxidative stress and pushes cells toward fat storage as a survival response.
  2. The body also makes fructose from glucose through the polyol pathway (aldose reductase), and salt and high serum osmolality activate this pathway, so high-glycemic carbs and salty foods can act like fructose.
  3. Animal studies in mice lacking fructokinase or the vasopressin V1b receptor show protection from obesity, fatty liver, and insulin resistance, and Johnson argues that fructose drives hunger through leptin resistance and lowers energy expenditure.
  4. Johnson says vulnerability to sugar rises with age and menopause because of declining mitochondrial health, upregulated fructose absorption and metabolism, activation of the polyol pathway, and rising uric acid after estrogen falls.
  5. On practical steps, Johnson recommends eliminating soft drinks and limiting juice, says whole fruit is generally fine, and discusses fructokinase inhibitors in development and blood pressure thresholds for treatment.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Fructose triggers a side pathway that is not about its calories

Johnson says fructokinase has no negative feedback, so fructose lowers ATP, generates uric acid, and promotes fat storage while blocking fat burning, which he describes as a survival response.

The body makes fructose from glucose, salt, and osmolality

Aldose reductase converts glucose to sorbitol and then fructose, and it is turned on by high glucose, uric acid, and increased blood osmolality, which is why Johnson says cutting dietary fructose alone may not be enough.

Short calorie-matched studies can miss fructose's effects

Johnson argues that sugar drives hunger through leptin resistance, so forcing equal calories hides weight differences, while insulin resistance, fatty liver, and hypertension still develop; Attia notes a small energy expenditure effect would take months to show.

Sensitivity to sugar increases with age

Johnson cites healthier mitochondria in youth, upregulated fructose absorption with prior sugar exposure, activation of aldose reductase, and, for women, rising uric acid after menopause.

Form and dose of fructose matter

Johnson says the intestine shields against roughly four to six grams of fructose, so whole fruit with fiber is generally fine, while soft drinks and juices overwhelm the system and he thinks soft drinks should be banned.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

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So it's not the calories of fructose that are driving obesity. It's the fact that fructose lowers the energy and keeps the energy levels low, and this is due to this runaway renegade enzyme fructokinase that just takes all the ATP it can to... I mean, it take to phosphorylate the fructose as, as it sees it.

— Dr. Rick Johnson

It's not your fault. You are activating biologic pathways in your body. It's a biology.

— Dr. Rick Johnson

The trouble with dried fruit is it, it's still has all the fructose, but a lot of the good things are, are w- removed, so that's the problem. Dried fruit is sort of like candy. Um, it's mainly sugar.

— Dr. Rick Johnson

I've always felt that obesity is a passenger that comes along for the ride, but it's the metabolic derangement that lies under obesity that's highly correlated with obesity, but is, is, is actually quite separate from obesity, that that's the, that's the root cause of our mortality

— Peter Attia

So french fries are particularly fattening because they have the s- the salt and the carbs that together really turn on this pathway to make fructose.

— Dr. Rick Johnson

Fructokinase and ATP depletionUric acid and mitochondrial oxidative stressPolyol pathway and endogenous fructoseLeptin resistance and calorie-controlled studiesAging, menopause, and mitochondriaFruit, juice, and dietary strategiesSalt, hypertension, and vasopressin

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