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It’s Kara’s birthday! She and Scott discuss Disney’s $1 billion investment in OpenAI, the U.S. allowing Nvidia to sell chips to China, and President Trump’s continued involvement in the Warner Bros. deal. Then, the U.S. wants to review foreign visitors’ social media, Trump calls "affordability" a hoax, and Australia bans kids under 16 from social media. Plus, who do Kara and Scott think should have been Person of the Year? #pivot #podcast #karaswisher #scottgalloway #disney #openai #instagram #nvidia #warnerbros #affordability #sanfrancisco 00:00 Intro 1:38 Disney/OpenAI Deal 6:18 Trump Lets Nvidia Sell Chips to China 12:50 Trump Calls For CNN Sale 29:05 U.S. Wants to Review Visitors’ Social Media 35:48 Trump Mocks Affordability 43:05 Australia Bans Teens’ Social Media 50:34 Time Person of the Year Producers: Lara Naaman Zoë Marcus Taylor Griffin Video Producer: Rich Shibley Vox Media's Executive Producer of Podcasts: Nishat Kurwa Subscribe to Pivot on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pivot/id1073226719 Subscribe to Pivot on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4MU3RFGELZxPT9XHVwTNPR Follow us on Instagram and Threads at: https://www.instagram.com/pivotpodcastofficial/ Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@PIVOTPODCAST Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or email pivot@voxmedia.com

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Dec 11, 202559mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

CEOs, Chips, and Censorship: How Power Is Rewriting The Rules

  1. Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway dissect how tech CEOs are currying favor with Donald Trump to secure lucrative AI and chip deals, often at the expense of U.S. strategic interests and the public good. They critique Trump’s decision to let NVIDIA sell advanced chips to China, the politicized fight over CNN’s future ownership, and new efforts to screen foreign visitors’ social media. The conversation also covers Australia’s landmark social media ban for kids, the affordability crisis in the U.S., and the outsized influence of Big Tech and Gulf capital on media and policy. Throughout, they argue for stronger regulation, antitrust enforcement, and structural reforms while highlighting how ego and money consistently trump thoughtful governance.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

AI–IP licensing deals are inevitable and media companies should move faster.

Disney’s $1B equity investment in OpenAI and licensing of classic characters to Sora signals the coming wave of formal IP deals with AI platforms; Kara notes YouTube’s slow start on licensing as a cautionary tale and argues studios should partner early to monetize and police unauthorized use.

Selling advanced chips to China without extracting concessions is a strategic blunder.

Scott and Kara argue Trump’s move to let NVIDIA sell H200s to China trades away a core U.S. tech advantage for a modest Treasury cut and higher NVIDIA stock, without demanding market access, safeguards, or constraints on military applications like autonomous weapons and cyberwarfare.

Corporate flattery of politicians is paying off—and voters are the losers.

They portray CEOs like Jensen Huang and Ted Sarandos as highly skilled, even ‘obsequious,’ lobbyists who praise Trump to secure favorable policies, insisting the real failure is voters electing leaders who don’t push back or staff serious experts in critical roles.

Media mergers are being driven by testosterone, ego, and cheap capital more than strategy.

In the battle over CNN/Warner/Paramount, they say bidders are stretching far beyond rational prices to ‘win,’ repeating AOL–Time Warner–style overpays; Scott contrasts value-creating sellers like Jeff Bewkes with executives such as David Zaslav who may walk away rich after destroying shareholder value.

Foreign capital in U.S. media demands rigorous antitrust and national security review.

While Scott isn’t inherently opposed to Gulf money in deals, Kara warns the Ellison/Saudi structure is being engineered to evade CFIUS review and puts regulators like Gail Slater in a political bind, especially when Trump openly links CNN’s fate to favorable coverage.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

We gave a strategic competitor AI progress, stronger military capability, and in exchange what we got was NVIDIA stock’s gonna go up.

Scott Galloway

Jensen Huang is the most, and I mean this as a compliment, manipulative CEO there is.

Kara Swisher

The way this is supposed to work is the one with the most money wins, and then thoughtful regulators decide if it’s bad for competition or national security.

Scott Galloway

Oh, fuck you, Tim Cook. Do you think it’s parenting that bars should be able to serve my kid alcohol?

Scott Galloway

The Australian government just gave back more childhood to children than any single legislation I think passed in the West in the last decade.

Scott Galloway

Disney’s $1B OpenAI deal and IP licensing for AI-generated contentTrump’s decision to allow NVIDIA H200 chip sales to ChinaCEO lobbying, obsequiousness, and corporate capture of policyParamount/Warner/CNN deal politics and Gulf/Saudi funding concernsU.S. plans to review foreign visitors’ social media and free speech implicationsAffordability crisis in housing, healthcare, education, and food pricesAustralia’s under-16 social media ban and global child-safety regulationTime’s “Architects of AI” Person of the Year and alternative choices

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