Elon Musk Goes Viral for Cringey Leap at Trump Rally | Pivot

1. KSKara Swisher0:00

   Former President Donald Trump returned to Butler, Pennsylvania, the site of his first assassination attempt, for a rally this weekend. Trump was joined on stage by Elon Musk, who literally jumped in the air, a moment captured in photo that launched many memes. Uh, I have to know what you thought of this, this way. I saw some of your threads, um, and I wrote on threads, "Elon's tummy just beat out Dukakis in a tank." Um, he said he was, uh... Same thing with Howard Dean. It was so embarrassing. It was so awkward. He called himself Dark MAGA. A lot of people are calling him Dork MAGA. I can't imagine Trump being happy about any of this, but, uh, what do you, what do you think of this? Also, Trump, by the way, gave a speech, and I noted this on Chris Wallace this weekend, his cognitive difficulties are so apparent. Um, and the New York Times finally wrote a big story about it, uh, this week. Uh, I've been saying this for a while, the cognitive, uh, thing's worse. I mean, he, he says crazy things all the time. This is a whole new level of cognitive failure on his part. Uh, your thoughts on the Elon jump, whatever it was?

2. SGScott Galloway0:57

   Well, let's go in rev- There was a lot there, let's go in reverse order. With respect to his cognitive function or dysfunction, uh, both of us said this early and often to the, you know, to the, to the bother of many of our listeners, and that is, Biden was just too fucking old. Biology says hold my beer around what you think or what you're hoping is gonna happen. If Trump is reelected, he will be older than Biden was when he was too old to run for President. Except, Trump has supposedly a history of mental impairment or, uh, dementia.

3. KSKara Swisher1:28

   His father had dementia, yeah.

4. SGScott Galloway1:30

   He refuses to release the records of his cognitive tests, and he's obese. So folks, I mean, Biden was too old, this guy is way too old. Now, as it relates to Trump, uh, and, and Musk, or as I say, uh, Sissy SpaceX-

5. KSKara Swisher1:49

   (laughs)

6. SGScott Galloway1:50

   ... he's literally... Look, the, the reality is for the campaign, for their core constituents, it was probably a good move. A lot of people really admire, for a lot of understandable-

7. KSKara Swisher2:01

   They do.

8. SGScott Galloway2:01

   ... reasons Musk.

9. KSKara Swisher2:02

   Mm-hmm.

10. SGScott Galloway2:02

    To me there's a, it represents the two of them on stage and how much love and adulation they get, represents something deeper and darker. And that is the aspirational vision of masculinity represented by these guys has turned so coarse, so vile, being such... You know, between the two of 'em, they have 17 kids by-

11. KSKara Swisher2:24

    Six women.

12. SGScott Galloway2:24

    ... six different women.

13. KSKara Swisher2:26

    Mm-hmm.

14. SGScott Galloway2:26

    With, with Musk you have a guy who when he gets to a position of power accuses his workers of, of sex crimes falsely such that they have to leave their home, does not pay contracted, legally obligated severance, deadnames, says his daughter is dead to him. Dead to him. And yet we have VCs, including those that come on our podcast-

15. KSKara Swisher2:49

    Mm-hmm.

16. SGScott Galloway2:50

    ... who make all sorts of fucking excuses for the guy. And what I have found is that generally speaking, it represents this dark peanut butter and chocolate zeitgeist in our society where we have conflated masculinity with coarseness, with cruelty, and some fucked up vision that as long as you're rich, you can treat women like shit, you can be a shitty dad, a shitty employer. I mean, the- these, these guys, it was literally like the parade of poor role models for young men.

17. KSKara Swisher3:24

    Yep, yep, it really was.

18. SGScott Galloway3:24

    And it's, i- i- it's just so upsetting that... And, and it reflects something that over the last 40 years people have gotten so sick of politicians grin-fucking them, never saying anything impolite, never actually saying what might be going on, trying to please everyone, lying to everybody, being PG-13 at best. They were just so ready for someone to come in and quite frankly just be really coarse. And these two are, are literally the, the Fred and Ginger of, in my view, what it means to be, to not be a real man.

19. KSKara Swisher4:02

    Yeah, I would agree.

20. SGScott Galloway4:03

    And-

21. KSKara Swisher4:03

    I, I, I would... I-t's interesting because I do think... I, I agree, there's a lot of people who really do revere Elon Musk, but boy did he look dorky. Boy did he... That was weird. And, uh, y- Trump's face I thought was interesting several times. I don't think he liked it much at all, actually. I think he was like, "What is he doing taking up all my fucking oxygen?" It's like two, like, desperate people desperate for attention sponges fighting with each other kind of things, with the jumping and the weirdness and, you know, who knows what he was on, you know? Uh, it just was ve- I thought it was embarrassing actually. It was embarrassing.

22. SGScott Galloway4:38

    It's like my first marriage. Our first home, we had one vanity in the bathroom.

23. KSKara Swisher4:42

    Mm-hmm.

24. SGScott Galloway4:42

    It got ugly.

25. KSKara Swisher4:43

    (laughs)

26. SGScott Galloway4:43

    It just got ugly. "Wait, I need to look at me. No, I need to look at me."

27. KSKara Swisher4:48

    He seemed uncomfortable in several of the pictures. It was, it was like Elon needs the attention more, and it's embarra- it's, it's like a desperate... Like, he makes Trump look humble by comparison, I have to say. It was, it was weird, although Trump was meandering all over the place.

28. SGScott Galloway5:04

    But, but just to circle back-

29. KSKara Swisher5:06

    Mm-hmm.

30. SGScott Galloway5:06

    ... I think it's good for Trump.

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