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How the Murdoch Family Feud Is Like "Succession" | Pivot

Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway dig into the legal battle within the Murdoch family, as Rupert Murdoch attempts to change an irrevocable trust to give son Lachlan exclusive control. Will he be successful? What are the implications for Murdoch's company, and his family? Subscribe to Pivot on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pivot/id1073226719 Subscribe to Pivot on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4MU3RFGELZxPT9XHVwTNPR Follow us on Instagram and Threads at: https://www.instagram.com/pivotpodcastofficial Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@PIVOTPODCAST Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at https://podcasts.voxmedia.com/show/pivot #pivot #podcast #rupertmurdoch #murdoch #succession #foxnews #newscorp

Kara SwisherhostScott Gallowayhost
Jul 30, 20248mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 0:36

    Murdoch trust fight: the basics and why it’s erupting now

    Kara tees up the headline: Rupert Murdoch is in a legal battle over control of the News Corp/Fox family trust. She outlines how voting power is currently structured among the children and what Rupert is trying to change.

  2. 0:36 – 1:07

    Why Kara thinks the move is bad governance (and bad for shareholders)

    Kara argues Rupert’s rationale is political rather than shareholder-oriented, and she paints Lachlan’s leadership as costly and crisis-prone. The segment frames the trust change as entrenchment that could worsen accountability.

  3. 1:07 – 1:51

    “Succession” dynamics: siblings realigning against Lachlan

    Kara describes shifting alliances among the Murdoch children, noting they weren’t historically unified. The attempt to hand Lachlan control paradoxically pushes the other siblings closer together, echoing TV-family-drama politics.

  4. 1:51 – 2:51

    Scott on Fox/News Corp’s outsized influence relative to market value

    Scott zooms out from the family fight to the company’s power: Fox/News Corp’s influence is enormous compared with its market capitalization. He argues the enterprise has meaningful political impact and remains highly influential.

  5. 2:51 – 2:57

    Kara vs. Scott on Lachlan’s performance and looming legal exposure

    Kara counters Scott’s defense by citing major scandals and legal risks. The back-and-forth contrasts business metrics and influence with reputational and legal liabilities.

  6. 2:57 – 4:03

    Scott’s personal takeaway: family relationships as the real scorecard

    Scott pivots to a human lesson: success is hollow if you lose your kids. He uses Murdoch’s children not attending his wedding as a stark indicator of family fracture.

  7. 4:03 – 4:22

    Dynastic wealth and taxes: Scott’s argument for higher rates

    Scott connects the feud to policy, arguing that trusts and low estate taxes fuel unhealthy dynasties. He contends concentrated inherited power harms both society (lost tax revenue) and families (conflict).

  8. 4:22 – 5:05

    Kara: Rupert’s “Succession” endgame and the death-clock reality

    Kara returns to the immediate stakes: if Rupert dies before trial, the existing trust structure may remain, changing the control outcome. She frames Rupert’s effort as trying to control the company from beyond the grave—and igniting backlash.

  9. 5:05 – 5:53

    Is Lachlan influencing Rupert? Age, agency, and blame

    Kara suggests some observers think Lachlan is engineering the push, given Rupert’s age, while Scott notes influence can cut both ways. They argue over who initiated the conflict and where responsibility lies.

  10. 5:53 – 7:57

    What an irrevocable trust is—and the legal ‘loophole’ Murdoch needs

    Scott explains the mechanics: trusts enable tax-advantaged wealth transfer but must be irrevocable to work as designed. He outlines the narrow path Rupert would need—claiming the change benefits beneficiaries economically—despite the political motivation.

  11. 7:57 – 8:14

    Closing: comparisons to other media dynasties and a grim forecast

    Kara likens Murdoch’s trajectory to other aging media moguls who ended in messy succession battles (e.g., Sumner Redstone). The segment ends on resignation: this may be an unavoidable pattern when power and family collide.

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