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Kara and Scott discuss Charlie Kirk’s memorial service, Jimmy Kimmel’s return, and the Trump administration sending big tech into panic over H1-B visas. Plus, Trump takes to Truth Social to tell AG Pam Bondi to prosecute his enemies, and more details about the supposed TikTok deal. #pivot #podcast #karaswisher #scottgalloway #disney #jimmykimmel #charliekirk #hb1 #truthsocial #pambondi #tiktok Timestamps: 0:00 Intro 6:33 Charlie Kirk’s Memorial 14:28 Disney's Kimmel Pivot 28:19 H1-B Visa Chaos 36:55 Trump Asks Bondi to Charge Enemies 42:30 TikTok Deal Latest 51:04 Wins and Fails Producers: Lara Naaman Zoë Marcus Taylor Griffin Kate Gallagher Video Producer: Jim Mackil Vox Media's Executive Producer of Podcasts: Nishat Kurwa Subscribe to Pivot on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pivot/id1073226719 Subscribe to Pivot on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4MU3RFGELZxPT9XHVwTNPR Follow us on Instagram and Threads at: https://www.instagram.com/pivotpodcastofficial Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@PIVOTPODCAST Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or email pivot@voxmedia.com

Scott GallowayhostKara Swisherhost
Sep 22, 20251h 2mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Kimmel’s Return, Disney’s Misstep, and Tech’s Power Under Trump’s America

  1. Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway dissect Jimmy Kimmel’s abrupt suspension and reinstatement by Disney as a case study in corporate cowardice, political pressure, and the power of consumer boycotts. They contrast the politicized spectacle of Charlie Kirk’s stadium memorial—with Trump, Elon Musk, and Stephen Miller leveraging grief for partisan gain—against the moving presence of Kirk’s widow, whom they see as a potential emerging political figure. The episode then examines Trump-era policy shocks: a $100,000 H‑1B visa fee that advantages tech giants over startups, and a TikTok deal seemingly designed to enrich a small circle of Republican-aligned billionaires. They close by warning about AI “character” companions as weaponized affection for teens, arguing for strict age-gating and stronger rule-of-law protections in an increasingly autocratic-feeling political climate.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Economic boycotts can still move powerful companies.

Disney’s rapid reversal on Kimmel appears driven less by principles than by fear of canceled subscriptions, talent refusing to work with them, and share-price risk—suggesting coordinated consumer and talent pressure can still force corporate course corrections.

Politicized grief is becoming a tool of ‘violence entrepreneurship.’

Swisher and Galloway describe Charlie Kirk’s stadium memorial as a case where right-wing figures used a murder and public mourning to inflame division, register voters, sell merch, and frame opponents as enemies in a quasi-religious, quasi-fascist spectacle.

Trump’s H‑1B fee plan weakens U.S. competitiveness and entrenches incumbents.

A $100,000 annual cost on new skilled-worker visas would deter smaller firms from hiring global talent, concentrating access at giants like Meta and Google while undermining one of America’s core advantages: inflows of high-skill human capital.

The proposed TikTok ‘rescue’ looks like oligarchic self-dealing.

The rumored structure—with Oracle, Ellison, Murdoch, Andreessen, and others given preferential access to TikTok U.S.—illustrates how national-security rhetoric can be weaponized to carve up valuable assets for a friendly billionaire class, inviting future political retribution.

Rule-of-law erosion under Trump is bad for business and democracy.

From pressuring Disney over Kimmel to demanding prosecutions of personal enemies and tolerating alleged corruption by senior officials, Trump’s behavior makes the U.S. look more like a ‘banana republic,’ undermining the legal predictability on which business and investment depend.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

The gangster move here would be for him to come back in a vicious monologue and say, ‘I don’t want to work for this company anymore. This is my last show.’

Scott Galloway

They see an opportunity to leverage violence to advance their own political gains… I call it violence entrepreneurship.

Scott Galloway

What a fucking waste of time and stupidity. What a dumb decision on the behalf of Bob Iger to do it in the first place.

Kara Swisher

Character AI is intimacy without the friction… that is literally opium to a teenager.

Scott Galloway

Life is too short to give a steroid-filled imbecile like so many on that platform another minute of my time.

Kara Swisher

Jimmy Kimmel’s suspension and return under Disney’s political and economic pressureCharlie Kirk’s stadium memorial as a politicized, Christian-nationalist spectacleCorporate responses and consumer backlash as a form of economic strikeTrump’s proposed $100,000 H‑1B visa fees and impact on talent and startupsThe emerging TikTok deal involving Oracle, Murdoch, Ellison, and AndreessenErosion of rule of law and weaponization of government against political enemiesRisks of AI ‘character’ companions and parasocial relationships, especially for teens

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