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Kara and Scott take questions from listeners about how they manage their money, how to fix the American tax system, and which public policy would help the greatest number of people. Plus…all the audience suggestions for Kara’s next tattoo. #pivot #karaswisher #scottgalloway #ai 00:00 Intro 00:36 Taxing AI? 4:15 What’s One Policy You Would Implement? 7:23 Investment Strategies 15:45 Advice for Single Parent 23:02 If You Had All the Money in the World… 26:55 Tattoo Talk Producers: Lara Naaman Zoë Marcus Taylor Griffin Christine Driscoll Video Producer: Manolo Moreno Vox Media's Executive Producer of Podcasts: Nishat Kurwa Subscribe to Pivot on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pivot/id1073226719 Subscribe to Pivot on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4MU3RFGELZxPT9XHVwTNPR Follow us on Instagram and Threads at: https://www.instagram.com/pivotpodcastofficial/ Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@PIVOTPODCAST Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or email pivot@voxmedia.com

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Dec 19, 202530mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway Reveal Money, Policy, and Parenting Truths

  1. In this listener mail episode of Pivot, Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway tackle questions on taxing AI, the single policy that could fix the most U.S. problems, and how each of them approaches money, wealth, and spending.
  2. They debate whether AI or robots should be taxed, but largely land on fixing the broader tax code, particularly capital gains and minimum tax rules for the ultra-wealthy.
  3. Both open up about their very different relationships with money, shaped by childhood experiences of scarcity (Scott) and abundance plus financial dysfunction (Kara), and how that influences their saving, spending, and giving.
  4. They also share deeply personal reflections on losing a parent, single parenting, the importance of male role models for boys, and end with a lighter segment brainstorming what kind of tongue‑in‑cheek tattoo Kara should get for Scott.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Fix the tax code broadly instead of targeting AI specifically.

Scott argues that taxing specific sectors like AI invites special‑interest capture and definitional loopholes; instead, he favors eliminating the capital gains preference, restoring a more progressive tax system, and applying higher rates across all income and firms.

Raise capital gains taxes and implement a real alternative minimum tax (AMT) for the ultra‑wealthy.

Both hosts criticize a system where investment income is taxed less than wage income and suggest a federal AMT (e.g., ~40% above a high income/wealth threshold) to close loopholes that allow rich individuals to drive their effective tax rates into the teens.

A high minimum wage and more housing could unlock broad economic benefits.

Kara’s ‘one policy’ pick is a $25 minimum wage to raise living standards and consumer spending, with a second choice of dramatically expanding housing supply (millions of new homes) to address affordability and economic mobility.

Overturning Citizens United could reduce corporate capture of politics.

Scott sees the Supreme Court’s Citizens United decision as a central reason for policy gridlock and inequality, arguing that unlimited corporate money and lobbying have ‘weaponized’ Washington against the public interest.

Money philosophies are shaped by early life experiences with scarcity or excess.

Scott’s upbringing with financial scarcity fuels his ongoing fixation on earning and spending, while Kara’s childhood in a wealthy but financially chaotic household makes her largely indifferent to consumerism and focused on security and control over her own assets.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

There is no reason why someone working for money should be taxed at a higher rate than someone who is making money from investments.

Scott Galloway

My approach to spending money is that we don’t own money, we rent it.

Scott Galloway

I never let money get in the way of a good time. I am spending money like a ’50s gangster just diagnosed with ass cancer.

Scott Galloway

You think about money less than almost anybody I know.

Scott Galloway (about Kara Swisher)

If you tell your kids every day they have value, they start to believe you.

Scott Galloway

Taxation of AI, robots, and capital gainsStructural political reforms (Citizens United, lobbying, national service)Minimum wage, housing, and universal childcare as high‑impact policiesPersonal money philosophies: saving, spending, investing, and philanthropyPsychological impact of childhood financial circumstancesParenting after the loss of a parent and role of male role modelsHumor and relationship dynamics between Kara and Scott (tattoo ideas)

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