Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway Debate Their Money Strategies | Pivot

1. 0:00 – 0:36

   Intro

   1. SGScott Galloway0:00

      I never let money get in the way of a good time. I am spending money like a '50s gangster just diagnosed with ass cancer.

   2. KSKara Swisher0:05

      (laughs) (instrumental music) Hi, everyone. This is Pivot from New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network. I'm Kara Swisher.

   3. SGScott Galloway0:17

      And I'm Scott Galloway.

   4. KSKara Swisher0:18

      And Scott, this is our end-of-the-year listener mail episode. We're probably both elsewhere doing fun things, but, uh, are you ready to hear some emails and voicemails from our lovely listeners who, by the way, we have a full new appreciation for after meeting so many of them on our Pivot Live Tour? I really enjoyed that. Are you ready?

   5. SGScott Galloway0:34

      Yeah, ready.

   6. KSKara Swisher0:35

      Okay, Scott.

2. 0:36 – 4:15

   Taxing AI?

   1. KSKara Swisher0:36

      Let's kick off with a question about taxing AI. Let's listen. (screen whooshes)

   2. LYLynn0:40

      Hi, this is Lynn. Um, I've been wondering, as artificial intelligence continues to replace human jobs, do you think we'll ever see a tax on AI itself or on the companies that use it as a way to offset its impact on displaced workers? And would that, in a sense, become a new way of taxing the rich? Thank you. Bye. (screen whooshes)

   3. KSKara Swisher1:03

      Gosh, Lynn, what a great question. Actually, I'm gonna start, you know, uh, many years ago, Bill Gates sort of set off a kerfuffle when he talked about taxing robots if they become workers, um, the same way, 'cause you aren't gonna get those money that you get from human workers, and so they should be taxed in the same way. I hadn't really thought about it about AI. Uh, Scott, I, I, I'm, I, I think I'm ... Yeah, I think you're more qualified to answer this.

   4. SGScott Galloway1:24

      I don't know if that's true. Uh, m- my view around taxation is that the moment you start taxing specific industries, you weaponize special interest groups to come to their defense, and you also create some confusion around, like, is Oracle AI? You know, if, if McKinn- ... I mean, at what point ... What qualifies as an AI company and not an AI company? Is Microsoft an AI company? What, what I'm a big fan of, and I think that the, the, the caller is alluding to, I wanna go back to Reagan-era taxation, and that is, there's no difference between ... I think the capital gains tax deduction is nothing but a transfer of wealth from young to old because somehow we've decided that sweat is less noble than money. And that is, the money I make on money gets taxed at a lower rate than the money that young people make on sweat. So, I would like to see an elimi- elimination of the capital gains tax deduction and raise those rates to current income and restore a progressive tax structure. In my view, you do it across all income and all firms because I think the moment you start getting into this notion of let's put a super tax on this type of firm, I think that's, I think you regulate them, I think you have an EPA, you have an AI Act, you have privacy, you have laws. But in terms of taxation, I just think you say, look, above a certain level of profitability when you sell a stock, you pay this much in tax.

   5. KSKara Swisher2:47

      Mm-hmm.

   6. SGScott Galloway2:47

      I think taxes need to go up. I think we need to do away, we need to raise long-term capital gains from 21 to 37%. It makes no sense, and I'm paying lower taxes than people actually working for a living.

   7. KSKara Swisher2:57

      Mm-hmm.

   8. SGScott Galloway2:57

      But I think you apply it to every company 'cause a lotta, a lot of ... For example, the AI boom is gonna make a lot of people in the construction industry very, very rich.

   9. KSKara Swisher3:05

      Yeah. Ha- it is. That's one people that, group of people that are benefiting. Yeah. Yeah, do you tax them?

   10. SGScott Galloway3:11

       Your thoughts, Kara?

   11. KSKara Swisher3:11

       Would you tax them, right? Would you tax-

   12. SGScott Galloway3:12

       Oh, uh, my out of ... Uh, uh, there's so many loopholes right now. The only way we get there is with an AMT.

   13. KSKara Swisher3:18

       Yeah.

   14. SGScott Galloway3:18

       There should be an AMT.

   15. KSKara Swisher3:19

       Yeah, 100%.

   16. SGScott Galloway3:19

       Anything above $10 million and, uh, anything above 3 million, you pay a federal AMT of 40%.

   17. KSKara Swisher3:26

       Yep.

   18. SGScott Galloway3:26

       Because what happens is guys like me weaponize the tax code and do 1202 and buy assets-

   19. KSKara Swisher3:32

       I don't even know what that is.

   20. SGScott Galloway3:32

       ... and we end up paying high teens in tax rates.

   21. KSKara Swisher3:35

       Yeah.

   22. SGScott Galloway3:35

       So the stated, the stated ... Uh, we focus too much on tax rates, not on the tax code, and enough already.

   23. KSKara Swisher3:42

       Yeah.

   24. SGScott Galloway3:42

       There is no reason why someone working for money should be taxed at a higher rate than someone who is making money from investments.

   25. KSKara Swisher3:47

       Although I don't see anything wrong with taxing robots if they're workers. I don't know. I don't know. It's-

   26. SGScott Galloway3:50

       It's an interesting one.

   27. KSKara Swisher3:51

       Yeah.

   28. SGScott Galloway3:51

       Uh-

   29. KSKara Swisher3:52

       Yeah, I just, I, when he said it and I thought, "Oh, Bill Gates." And then I thought, "Oh actually, he's really smart. I forgot." Anyway, it's an interesting question. We have to deal with all these things and what happens with displaced workers and how we're gonna pay for that or get them different jobs. So, there's gonna be a lot of rethinking of all the way the workplace is taxed to how it's conducted, what people get paid, um, and obviously the damage that some of this AI is gonna do. There's gonna have to be some mitigation.

3. 4:15 – 7:23

   What’s One Policy You Would Implement?

   1. KSKara Swisher4:15

      Uh, okay, Scott, next question. This one is a tough one. Let's listen. (screen whooshes)

   2. LILiam4:18

      Hey, Scott and Kara. I'm Liam, a high school senior from New York, and I wanna ask the following. America certainly has its fair share of economic and social problems, but a lot of the time these problems stem from the same root causes. Too often though, our politicians create costly Band-Aid solutions rather than trying to address the underlying issues. So my question to you guys is, if you could implement one single policy to try and solve the most problems at once, what would it be? Thanks for taking the time to answer. (screen whooshes)

   3. KSKara Swisher4:47

      Wow. That's a great question. I, I hate that we're ... Just one thing? If I had to pick, (sighs) $25 minimum wage.

   4. SGScott Galloway4:55

      I like that. Um-

   5. KSKara Swisher4:57

      And, uh, let me explain very quickly.

   6. SGScott Galloway4:58

      Yeah.

   7. KSKara Swisher4:58

      Because I think it, it lists all boats. If people get paid more, they'll spend more. It creates a better economy. I know there's initial costs for businesses that have these things, but it creates an, uh, uh, people that can do a living wage, they spend money. They wanna do things. They lean into the future. I just, it, it, it would be great. I, I, the second one would be, uh, uh, eight million houses, more housing, but go ahead.

   8. SGScott Galloway5:19

      One's a program. One is structural or l- legislative. Um, I do think a lot of this reverse engineers to, in terms of inability to get things done, to Citizens United.

   9. KSKara Swisher5:31

      Mm-hmm.

   10. SGScott Galloway5:31

       If I could overturn-

   11. KSKara Swisher5:32

       Oh.

   12. SGScott Galloway5:32

       ... Citizens United-

   13. KSKara Swisher5:33

       Yes.

   14. SGScott Galloway5:33

       ... I would ... I think a lot of our problems stem from the weaponization of Washington by corporate interests and corporate money.

   15. KSKara Swisher5:39

       Oh, wow.

   16. SGScott Galloway5:40

       Um, and then-

   17. KSKara Swisher5:41

       Wow, Bernie Sanders. I like that answer.

   18. SGScott Galloway5:44

       Well, uh, I mean, it's just true. Uh, there's, there's more, there's more full-time lobbyists living in DC working for Amazon than there are sitting US senators. So what do you know? Uh, anyway, uh, but, uh, you know, a close second, mandatory national service, universal childcare, lower Medicare eligibility by two years a year for 10 years until three-quarters of America has essentially socialized medicine. And you know, I could go on and on.

   19. KSKara Swisher6:08

       Yeah.I love it. I love that answer. I was not expecting it. Boy, that came out left field there, Scott. All right, Scott, let's take a quick break and we'll be back with more listener questions. (instrumental music)

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   21. KSKara Swisher7:22

       Scott, we're back.

4. 7:23 – 15:45

   Investment Strategies

   1. KSKara Swisher7:23

      The next listener wants to know what we're doing with our money. Let's listen.

   2. SGScott Galloway7:26

      Hi, Scott and Kara. It's Eric from Brooklyn. Scott, you talk a lot about how you spend, how you invest, and I imagine how you save. Kara, you don't, and you come off as maybe a bit more frugal. Can you share a little bit about your investment, spending, and saving philosophy in the context of your shared success? Um, thank you so much and, uh, hope we'll see you soon.

   3. KSKara Swisher7:48

      Gosh, thanks Eric. A little personal. Um, uh, I am not ... I don't think about money a lot and that's my problem. I'm not interested in it. And I make a lot of money, I do. Um, for, especially for a journalist, I, I'm like, I'm like Daddy Warbucks of journalists in that regard. But I would say I save a lot. I have a lot of savings and I diversify. I'm sort of your basic person, uh, basic bitch of investing. I have bonds, I've got l- quite a bit of real estate that I hold onto as f- for savings, as Scott calls it. Um, I, um, I don't spend a lot of money. I really don't. Uh, it's, it, it has nothing to do with me being frugal, I just don't ... I'm not, I don't like buying a lot of stuff. I'm wearing the same ... All my clothes I've had for 20 year ... I don't buy a lot of clothes, I don't buy drugs, I don't buy ... I don't go out a lot. Um, I'm really boring. (laughs)

   4. SGScott Galloway8:35

      You don't buy drugs? Where did that come from? (laughs)

   5. KSKara Swisher8:37

      I don't buy ... Well, n- no one here buys drugs. (laughs) Maybe you. I don't buy th- like I don't drink, I don't party. I, I'm trying to think-

   6. SGScott Galloway8:43

      Right.

   7. KSKara Swisher8:43

      ... like what costs money. I, I have a Chevy Volt, like, and a Kia, so I don't really care about cars.

   8. SGScott Galloway8:48

      You're the, you're the primary breadwinner in a family of four-

   9. KSKara Swisher8:51

      4 billion.

   10. SGScott Galloway8:51

       ... 4 or 6 people.

   11. KSKara Swisher8:52

       Yeah. I-

   12. SGScott Galloway8:53

       I mean, that in itself is-

   13. KSKara Swisher8:54

       Yeah. Yep.

   14. SGScott Galloway8:55

       Mommy's gotta make real money.

   15. KSKara Swisher8:56

       Mommy's gotta make real money. And so that's spent on the kids. I definitely get them through college and ... But I did those savings plans for college for, for my boys and I'm doing them for my little kids. That worked out really well actually, I didn't have to think about it. Um, and I did that 20 years ago for my older kids. Um, I think I, um ... What I do s- spend on, I have way too much cash compared to what I need, but I like to have it. I'm one of those sort of people. I do spend money on a couple of things. Um, I always will upgrade. I mean, I always get first class. I fly, well, you know, I don't have a private plane, but I, I would love to have one, but, um, I'm sorry to say that, people who love to save energy, but I think they're wonderful. Um, and I, I will upgrade all the time, like upgrade hotels, a- and things like that. So, I, I, I've gotten ... I got old very early and then I'm like, I didn't want to be in bad food, I didn't want to stay in bad places. I suppose if I spend on anything a lot, it's vacations. I really, I, I do. But I'm still more frugal than Scott. Scott is real- ... I really admire Scott's vacation spending. Um, I don't know. Scott, what do you think?

   16. SGScott Galloway10:02

       Well, you know, I think a lot about this.

   17. KSKara Swisher10:04

       Mm-hmm.

   18. SGScott Galloway10:04

       One of my addictions is money.

   19. KSKara Swisher10:05

       Yeah.

   20. SGScott Galloway10:05

       And that is, I continue to be too focused on it to the detriment of my mental health, and it takes time away from my family. I grew up with a scarcity of money until, you know, I got through my senior year of college on Top Ramen and bananas. That's not an exaggeration. I was in student debt, um, you know, even at the age of 27. I was traum- not traumatized, but I had a difficult time paying for my mother's, um, uh, healthcare. So I've been very focused on money and got very lucky. And that's not a humble brag. I think I'm a monster. I think I'm talented and hardworking, but I did get lucky, and now I am, by most people's standards, wealthy. Uh, my approach to spending money is that we don't own money, we rent it. And I also ... You collide that with my atheism and I believe that this is all coming to an end pretty quickly for me. So I spend a great deal of money. I spend between 3 and $400,000 a month. Uh, I own homes all over the world. I, uh, have a plane, and I spend most of my money on homes and experiences. And-

   21. KSKara Swisher11:11

       Not gifts for Kara, just so you know.

   22. SGScott Galloway11:13

       (laughs)

   23. KSKara Swisher11:13

       Just-

   24. SGScott Galloway11:13

       But along those lines, the way I try and keep in check is I think hoarding money is a virus. When I hit my number eight years ago, I decided anything above that number I would give away. And what I do each year is I look at my total spending and I match it and I give that amount of money away.

   25. KSKara Swisher11:27

       You are very generous.

   26. SGScott Galloway11:27

       And it keeps my ... N- My net worth has not increased in eight years.

   27. KSKara Swisher11:31

       Yeah.

   28. SGScott Galloway11:31

       And, uh, because I think hoarding wealth is a virus. There's no reason anybody needs to be a billionaire. But there's n- I can't stand it when wealthy people can't, aren't good at spending money. I have an amazing time.

   29. KSKara Swisher11:43

       Yeah.

   30. SGScott Galloway11:44

       I do things for my friends and family to-
5. 15:45 – 23:02

   Advice for Single Parent

   1. KSKara Swisher15:45

      (swoosh sound)

   2. LILisa15:45

      My name's Lisa. I'm the mother of a 17-year-old boy and a 13-year-old girl. Two years ago, their father died unexpectedly. Kara, as someone who lost their father and also as someone who's raised children without a male partner, and Scott, as someone who was largely raised by a single mother, I'm looking for advice. Kara, what do you wish your mom did to keep your dad's memory alive? What did she do right or wrong? Scott, what did your mom do right to make you feel like one parent was enough? What do you wish she would have done if, for example, she had had more financial resources? Thank you both. (swoosh sound)

   3. KSKara Swisher16:17

      Man, these are good questions. They're highly emotional (laughs) . God, Jesus.

   4. SGScott Galloway16:21

      Yeah.

   5. KSKara Swisher16:22

      I don't think my mom did a very good job. I, I hate to trash my mom this episode, but it's true. Uh, you know, she lost contact with my dad's, uh, parents, and I reestablished it when I was in college myself. Uh, you, when you're a kid, you're a little bit at cross-purposes of loyalty, and I, I thought that was not good. Uh, she threw away a lot of pictures, um, which I recovered, some of which I spent a lot of time finding, stuff about my dad. And I have, right now have a big box of letters of his that I just read one that was wonderful. Uh, um, I, I think she should have spent a lot more time talking about him, and, and I don't, I don't think she remembers h- herself. But I don't think she was kind to his parents. Um, so I, that was one thing, is if your grandparents were good people, make sure your kids know them and know their relatives on your dad's side and therefore his friends. I wish I knew more about my dad's friends. And I found out later when I wrote a piece in The Washington Post, I got inundated with friends of his that my mother never told me about, that I then went and met, and all these stories. There was a g- as, I think I've said this before, there was a gay couple who my dad was lovely to, and I didn't know that. I, I, it was a wonderful thing to find out. Uh, a young, uh, African American woman he tutored wrote me from... Now she was a doctor, and said that she wanted to thank him. Like, an ex-girlfriend (laughs) of his wrote me saying it should've been me, uh, that married him (laughs) , uh, which was funny. Like, there's a picture of him behind me. I have a lot of pictures of him around. One thing I'm sad is my kids won't know him. I named my s- and I also named my son after my dad, so that's what I would say.

   6. SGScott Galloway17:54

      It's nice. Yeah. (sighs) I mean, there's a... Just thinking about it, um, stirs emotions. So when I was 15 and in California, you were what you drove and e- or just having a car was everything. You had no social life in high school in LA. There was no public transportation unless you had a car. We didn't have a lot of money. My mom used to come home, uh, when I was 15 and a half and honk the horn, and we'd go into a garage at this giant apartment complex and she would teach me how to drive stick on her 19, like, '77 Opel green-

   7. KSKara Swisher18:27

      Oh, yeah.

   8. SGScott Galloway18:27

      ... you know, lime green Opel Manta.

   9. KSKara Swisher18:29

      Mm-hmm.

   10. SGScott Galloway18:29

       And then on my 16th birthday when I passed my driver's test, she came home and she had bought this shitty Acura, and she put her arms on my shoulders and put keys in my hand and said, "You're a handsome young man and you have a car."

   11. KSKara Swisher18:41

       Oh. Scott, you're breaking my heart.You okay?

   12. SGScott Galloway18:50

       Yeah, I'm good. The, the best thing, literally, I think of any parent or any mother. Um, if you tell your kids every day they have value, they start to believe you.

   13. KSKara Swisher19:07

       Yeah, 100%. Scott, I bought you an Acura for your-

   14. SGScott Galloway19:10

       There you go.

   15. KSKara Swisher19:11

       ... for Christmas. (laughs)

   16. SGScott Galloway19:12

       That's what I needed.

   17. KSKara Swisher19:12

       I gotta get you out of this. Uh, that is a beautiful story.

   18. SGScott Galloway19:15

       No, but I-

   19. KSKara Swisher19:15

       I didn't know that.

   20. SGScott Galloway19:15

       When I, when I-

   21. KSKara Swisher19:16

       Why didn't I know that?

   22. SGScott Galloway19:17

       You know, you get... The good news is you become more thoughtful. When I reverse engineer all my blessings, the two core things, it's big government, assisted launch Pell Grants, University of California, uh, DARPA, the internet, uh, and also just hands down, I think I've always had a base of confidence that, that my mother gave me.

   23. KSKara Swisher19:34

       Oh my God, I can't believe-

   24. SGScott Galloway19:35

       The more-

   25. KSKara Swisher19:35

       ... your mother did this.

   26. SGScott Galloway19:35

       ... the more, uh, pragmatic piece of advice is that unfortunately if you were to reverse engineer a young man's problems to a single point of failure, it's when he loses a male role model. And you've had, your husband has passed. I think it's especially important that you get men involved in your son's life.

   27. KSKara Swisher19:55

       100%.

   28. SGScott Galloway19:56

       Uh, Kara, you do a great job, uh-

   29. KSKara Swisher19:57

       I do. I didn't mention that.

   30. SGScott Galloway19:58

       ... with, with your brothers.
6. 23:02 – 26:55

   If You Had All the Money in the World…

   1. KSKara Swisher23:02

      Okay, Scott, moving on. This question comes from Paul via email. I'll read it. "If you had all the money in the world ..." These are such good questions. Let me read this. "If you had all the money in the world, what would you be doing with your precious time at this moment with that money, and why aren't you doing that?" Oh my God, Paul. Wow, Paul. That's a lot. Scott, you go first on this one. And I'll, I ha- I gotta think for a second.

   2. SGScott Galloway23:24

      I'm doing it. I realize how privileged I am, and I realize this is, you know, a function of my being born a white male heterosexual. And I, uh, you know, um, I do exactly what I'm ... Money ha- plays, uh, money as a construct puts no constraints on my life. I am doing exactly what I wanna be doing every day. Every day. I'm, I'm blessed, and I realize that there's only 0.1% of the populace can do that. If I had billions of dollars, and I'd started a private equity firm like-

   3. KSKara Swisher23:53

      All the money in the world.

   4. SGScott Galloway23:55

      W- well, what I would be focused on right now if I had, say, hundreds of millions to waste, I'm gonna spend millions, but I don't have tens or hundreds of millions, I'm very, very focused on restoring some of the traditional American values and getting Democrats elected in '26 and in '28.

   5. KSKara Swisher24:10

      Yeah, that's what I'd do. Yeah, I would do, put a, take a bunch of money and solidify a progressive, uh, a pr- not a, not, like, hateful to conservatives, but, like, in American values that are about fairness and equity and things like that. So I'd spend money on that. I would spend money on, um-I would, I'd, I'd f- I'd do the MacKenzie Ba- Scott. That's what I would be. That's what I ... I just suddenly show up with money and not be heard from or seen from again. I would ... That's how ... I would do what she's doing, exactly what she's doing, and suddenly give Howard a whole bunch. She's d- done two gifts to Howard and she's ... All of a sudden, she's over at Planned Parenthood and then she's here. She's so diverse in her giving, um, that I, I love it, and it's, uh, that's how I would behave. I would, um, I would also create, um, uh, uh, universal (laughs) daycare. I mean, that's what I would do for people. Better childcare, uh, for, uh, all kinds of parents. Uh, uh, I, I would somehow figure out a way to fund. Like right now, N- New Mexico has it 'cause they have all this oil and gas or shale, uh, money. They can do it. Every state, we should have, uh ... Nationally, we should have universal daycare.

   6. SGScott Galloway25:18

      Yeah.

   7. KSKara Swisher25:19

      Universal daycare. That's what I would do. I would spend less on health stuff, but I can see why ... Um, again, uh, money is ... I don't spend a lot of money so I wouldn't buy anything. I wouldn't ... Uh, I'm trying to ... Would I buy anything? Maybe like my own Taylor Swift concert perhaps. That's what I would do.

   8. SGScott Galloway25:33

      Yeah, I might buy-

   9. KSKara Swisher25:33

      Anything crazy you would buy?

   10. SGScott Galloway25:34

       I might, I might buy a Gulfstream G800.

   11. KSKara Swisher25:35

       I'd invite Scott just to hurt him, play with his ears. (laughs) You'd be so nice to Taylor Swift. Anyway, something like that, something like ... Someone I enjoy like that. All right, Scott, one more quick break. We'll be back f- uh, with more from our listeners. Support for this show comes from Rubrik. A lot of companies are deploying AI agents now. They're automating tasks, handling workflows, and making decisions. But here's the thing, sometimes they mess up. What a surprise. They might delete the wrong files, make changes you didn't authorize, or just go off script. And when that happens, you're stuck trying to figure out what went wrong and how to fix it, unless you're using Rubrik Agent Cloud. Rubrik Agent Cloud is a platform that allows you to monitor, govern, and rewind AI agent actions. One platform to help you unleash more agents faster without the risk. It's running in the background the whole time watching what's happening, making sure things stay on track so you get full visibility, set guardrails so agents don't go rogue, and if something breaks, you just roll it back. If your business relies on AI agents, you need the ability to monitor, govern, and rewind their actions. Right now, our listeners get exclusive early access to Rubrik Agent Cloud. Head to rubrik.com. That's R-U-B-R-I-K dot com. Rubrik.com. Okay, Scott, we're back

7. 26:55 – 30:08

   Tattoo Talk

   1. KSKara Swisher26:55

      and we're ending on something very special. A few weeks ago, I asked what tattoo I should get for Scott, ideally on my ass. Let me read some of the answers we got. "A roll of toilet paper with an S on one of the sheets." "The Professor Galloway memorial tattoo should feature an angry but dignified Daisy Duck with a lot of pink shading." Interesting. "A penis that cleverly embeds his name on it."

   2. SGScott Galloway27:19

      Hmm.

   3. KSKara Swisher27:19

      "SC on one cheek and TT on ... (laughs) other." (laughs) Get the O is the asshole? Get it? Get it?

   4. SGScott Galloway27:27

      Yeah.

   5. KSKara Swisher27:27

      Okay.

   6. SGScott Galloway27:28

      I get it.

   7. KSKara Swisher27:28

      Uh, "Groucho nose and glasses with Scott's nose and glasses." I don't like any of these. I do like the SC TT I'd say. Uh, I need more. Scott, do you have any suggestions?

   8. SGScott Galloway27:40

      Uh, I would get some ... I would just s- "In case of emergency, call Scott." Um, or-

   9. KSKara Swisher27:45

      Oh, my god. Break glass? Okay.

   10. SGScott Galloway27:47

       Or maybe a tiny raccoon holding a beer-

   11. KSKara Swisher27:50

       Oh.

   12. SGScott Galloway27:50

       ... because it says-

   13. KSKara Swisher27:50

       You know what? I, uh ... I think, "That's good," is what I should get, just the words-

   14. SGScott Galloway27:54

       Um-

   15. KSKara Swisher27:55

       ... "That's good."

   16. SGScott Galloway27:55

       ... a barcode, a barcode that if you scan it, it said, "The problem with Scott is ..." Um ... (laughs)

   17. KSKara Swisher28:04

       (laughs) See, you're better.

   18. SGScott Galloway28:06

       Uh-

   19. KSKara Swisher28:06

       Yeah.

   20. SGScott Galloway28:06

       Let me see. Uh, I don't know. Um-

   21. KSKara Swisher28:09

       I would ... How about a cat and a dog sort of fighting but hugging at the same time? Something like that?

   22. SGScott Galloway28:15

       You know-

   23. KSKara Swisher28:15

       No?

   24. SGScott Galloway28:15

       Tattoo of a receipt, "Total: zero, zero, zero."

   25. KSKara Swisher28:18

       Right.

   26. SGScott Galloway28:18

       "I am putting up with Kara."

   27. KSKara Swisher28:20

       Ha ha ha ha ha.

   28. SGScott Galloway28:21

       Um-

   29. KSKara Swisher28:22

       Uh ...

   30. SGScott Galloway28:23

       A broken halo with the caption, "Scott tried."

Episode duration: 30:08