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Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway are at SXSW! After Scott kicks off the show with an epic Elon Musk impression, they discuss Elon's business struggles, whether Trump is actually reining him in, and how more and more companies are moving to Texas. Then, Trump's crypto summit, and predictions about whether more companies will go private amid the IPO slump. Plus, Kara goes there with Scott, and asks a bold question about their relationship. Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 7:14 - Elon’s Businesses 19:15 - Companies Moving to Texas 25:02 - Kara Asks Scott "The Question" 26:00 - Trump's Crypto Plans 33:17 - IPO Predictions 38:58 - Q&A #pivot #podcast #sxsw #elonmusk #donaldtrump #doge #tesla #crypto #bitcoin #ipo #intel Producers: Lara Naaman Zoë Marcus Taylor Griffin Video Editor: Julian Velard Vox Media's Executive Producer of Audio: Nishat Kurwa Subscribe to Pivot on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pivot/id1073226719 Subscribe to Pivot on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4MU3RFGELZxPT9XHVwTNPR Follow us on Instagram and Threads at: https://www.instagram.com/pivotpodcastofficial Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@PIVOTPODCAST Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at https://podcasts.voxmedia.com/show/pivot

Scott GallowayhostKara SwisherhostAudience member (Charlie from Vancouver)guest
Mar 10, 20251h 2mWatch on YouTube ↗

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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Kara Swisher, Scott Galloway Skewer Musk, Crypto, and U.S. Politics Live

  1. In a live SXSW edition of Pivot, Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway mix raunchy banter with sharp analysis of Elon Musk, U.S. politics, crypto, and the IPO market. They argue Musk’s political turn is irrational for Tesla but strategically effective for clearing regulatory obstacles across his empire, while SpaceX remains fundamentally strong. They slam Trump’s proposed “strategic Bitcoin reserve” as pure pay‑for‑play kleptocracy that weakens the U.S. dollar and fuels future scams. Audience Q&A ranges from trade schools and young men’s prospects to Canada–U.S. relations, European elections, and whether any serious check on Musk or aging corporate leaders is likely.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

Musk’s politics are hurting Tesla but not SpaceX—for now.

Galloway calls Tesla “crashing” in brand and fundamentals, arguing Musk’s red‑pill posture alienates core EV buyers and leaves Tesla wildly overvalued, while SpaceX still delivers unmatched cost per kilogram to orbit and will likely surpass Tesla in value.

Trump’s Doge/Elon theatrics distract from a generational tax heist via deficits.

They argue the firings of regulators and ‘Doge’ drama are a misdirection from tax policy that massively benefits the top 0.1% while loading younger generations with an $800B+ deficit burden that crowds out future investment.

A ‘strategic Bitcoin reserve’ is indefensible policy and textbook pay‑for‑play.

Galloway says crypto donors gave Trump roughly $285M, and in return they get a pseudo‑strategic reserve built from seized Bitcoin; it has no real national‑security rationale and actually undermines the U.S. dollar’s sanction power.

Bitcoin may be a store of value; most other crypto remains speculative.

He distinguishes Bitcoin—finite supply, market-accepted as a store of value—from other tokens with no enforced scarcity or proven utility, predicting a wave of crypto scams now that regulation has been relaxed and clarity removed.

State‑level tax and cost arbitrage will keep pulling companies and people to places like Texas and Florida.

Galloway frames inter‑state competition as healthy economic arbitrage (lower taxes, cheaper living), while Swisher counters that for LGBTQ families, hostile state governments dramatically change where it’s safe to live and raise kids.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

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Tesla has basically become a brand that means very negative brand associations.

Kara Swisher

Tesla grew 1% and it trades at 144 times earnings. Even after shedding a third of its value, it's the most overvalued company in tech.

Scott Galloway

This is a conspiracy between the 0.1% and an administration that wants you to look over here and ignore the fact that we're about to levy the greatest increase in taxes in history on young people called the deficit.

Scott Galloway

What's gonna happen if we run out of Bitcoin? How is that a defense threat?

Scott Galloway

For the first time in our history, a 30‑year‑old isn't doing as well as his or her parents were at 30.

Scott Galloway

Elon Musk’s political strategy, Tesla brand damage, and SpaceX performanceTrump, Doge, deregulation, and the broader deficit/tax agendaCrypto policy, the ‘strategic Bitcoin reserve,’ and regulatory captureState competition for corporate HQs (Texas, Florida, Delaware, California)Stagnant IPO market and rise of massive private valuationsHigher education economics, trade schools, and young men’s strugglesGlobal democracy, foreign elections, and money’s influence on politics

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