Kara Swisher on Musk vs. Altman: "Start Wrestling with a Pig…Get Filthy” | Pivot

Kara and Scott unpack the aftermath of the White House Correspondents’ Dinner shooting — the suspect, the media response, and how Trump is using the incident to push for his ballroom. Then, as the Musk vs. Altman courtroom battle gets underway, they break down who has the upper hand. Plus, Big Tech layoffs, the DOJ dropping its Powell probe, and a potential Spirit Airlines bailout. #pivot #podcast #karaswisher #scottgalloway #WHCD #ballroom #samaltman #elonmusk #layoffs #DOJ #powell #spirit 00:00 Intro 01:06 WHCD Shooting Aftermath 18:38 Musk vs. Altman 31:53 Tech Layoffs 42:42 DOJ Drops Powell Probe 45:22 Spirit Airlines Bailout? 49:05 Soldier Charged with Betting on Maduro 54:34 Wins and Fails Producers: Lara Naaman Zoë Marcus Taylor Griffin Todd Wiseman Video Producer: Rich Shibley Vox Media's Executive Producer of Podcasts: Nishat Kurwa Subscribe to Pivot on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pivot/id1073226719 Subscribe to Pivot on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4MU3RFGELZxPT9XHVwTNPR Follow us on Instagram and Threads at: https://www.instagram.com/pivotpodcastofficial/ Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@PIVOTPODCAST Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or email pivot@voxmedia.com

Scott GallowayhostKara Swisherhost

Apr 28, 20261h 7mWatch on YouTube ↗

EPISODE INFO

Released: April 28, 2026
Duration: 1h 7m
Channel: Pivot
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EPISODE DESCRIPTION

Kara and Scott unpack the aftermath of the White House Correspondents’ Dinner shooting — the suspect, the media response, and how Trump is using the incident to push for his ballroom. Then, as the Musk vs. Altman courtroom battle gets underway, they break down who has the upper hand. Plus, Big Tech layoffs, the DOJ dropping its Powell probe, and a potential Spirit Airlines bailout. #pivot #podcast #karaswisher #scottgalloway #WHCD #ballroom #samaltman #elonmusk #layoffs #DOJ #powell #spirit 00:00 Intro 01:06 WHCD Shooting Aftermath 18:38 Musk vs. Altman 31:53 Tech Layoffs 42:42 DOJ Drops Powell Probe 45:22 Spirit Airlines Bailout? 49:05 Soldier Charged with Betting on Maduro 54:34 Wins and Fails Producers: Lara Naaman Zoë Marcus Taylor Griffin Todd Wiseman Video Producer: Rich Shibley Vox Media's Executive Producer of Podcasts: Nishat Kurwa Subscribe to Pivot on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pivot/id1073226719 Subscribe to Pivot on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4MU3RFGELZxPT9XHVwTNPR Follow us on Instagram and Threads at: https://www.instagram.com/pivotpodcastofficial/ Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@PIVOTPODCAST Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or email pivot@voxmedia.com

SPEAKERS

Scott Galloway
host
Professor of marketing at NYU Stern and co-host of Pivot, known for business/tech analysis.
Kara Swisher
host
Journalist and tech commentator, co-host of Pivot and host of On with Kara Swisher.

EPISODE SUMMARY

In this episode of Pivot, featuring Scott Galloway and Kara Swisher, Kara Swisher on Musk vs. Altman: "Start Wrestling with a Pig…Get Filthy” | Pivot explores pivot debates WHCD shooting, Musk-Altman trial, layoffs, and policy failures The hosts frame the White House Correspondents’ Dinner shooting aftermath as a symptom of easy gun access and a toxic, social-media-driven political climate, while criticizing performative media coverage and rapid politicization by the Trump ecosystem.

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