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New Report Raises Questions About Biden's Age

Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway debate the new special counsel report that's leading to questions and concerns about President Joe Biden's age and memory. Listen to the full conversation on our latest episode, wherever you get your podcasts. #pivot #podcast #biden #trump #election #age

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  1. KS

    Special Counsel Robert Hur has, uh, released, um, his report on President Joe Biden's handling of classified documents. The report concludes no criminal charges against Biden are warranted and also says, uh, there was evidence that Bi- Biden willfully retained a disclosed classified materials as a private citizen. There were a number of references to Bo- Biden's cognitive abilities, notably calling him a sympathetic, welting, elderly man with a poor memory. I have to say, this was- the media coverage is out of context of what- I read the entire thing and if you read it, which no one will, um, nonetheless, it- this is what happened. It was damaging. Uh, Biden lashed out at the special counsel during a press conference late last week, particularly at the claim that he could not remember the year his son Beau died. That was- they- he- the guy was talking about the strategy around, uh, a trial. Biden did mix up the presidents of Egypt and Mexico at a press conference. That said Donald Trump mi- uh, mixed up, uh, the presidents of, I think, Turkey and then he thought Nikki Haley was Nancy Pelosi. So, let me just equalize that. Donald Trump also weighed in saying if Biden wasn't going to be charged with classified documents then neither should he, calling his own case selective prosecution. It is not. Um, so, it- it obviously created a lot of things. People were furious about the number of stories in the New York Times and columns, and I would agree. There were seven of them talking about Biden's age and nothing- and- and they did not put what Trump said a day later about, uh, letting the Russians attack Europe, um, in the same spot. It was very weird, uh, media selection. I never say the media's biased but, boy, was that something to see. Um, I- I don't- it's still a problem and, uh, a- a large amount of people believe both are too old, I think over 60%. More people believe Biden is too old compared to Trump. Let's not equalize it. Trump has 91 indictments. It's not comparable. Um, but it's still a problem. So- and you've talked about this a lot, um, so, so what do you think about this? Well, how do you get beyond this? I think he- you saw him moving out last night during the Super Bowl even though he didn't do the traditional interview. He did a ton of social media. It was all very clever, funny, making fun of himself. Um, he's gotta get out there, I think, ultimately. What is- what are your thoughts?

  2. SG

    I saw it simple as, uh, either really poor judgment or a planned hit piece because he was there to talk about the legal veracity of these documents which the president, President Biden, turned over versus President Trump tried to hide and destroy evidence. And again, it goes back to what my friend Dov Seidman says, "It's not what you do, it's how you do it." And basically, this special prosecutor did his job to the extent that it was clear. He said this was- uh, you know, this was an error in judgment. As soon as he recognized his error in judgment, he fully cooperated and he's the one that disclosed he had (laughs) these documents. So, he- he- he drew sharp relief between the two cases and did his job. He's not there though to be a neurobiologist and make comments that he c- anyone reviewing this thing would go, "You realize this is gonna be blown up into something much bigger and i- it has no legal frame." It's not appropriate. Now, the- the larger issue here is that when you have a 77 or 78-year-old obese man and an 81-year-old man, there's about a 7% chance every year that they're gonna die. So essentially, between now and the election, there's a little less than a coin flip chance-

  3. KS

    Yep.

  4. SG

    ... that one of these two-

  5. KS

    We talked about this.

  6. SG

    ... slips and breaks a hip or something like that. And what is just so upsetting and frustrating is that America produces more remarkable people, I believe, than any nation in history. We have remarkable military leaders. We have remarkable artists, businesspeople. I- every time I go to Washington, as much as we shitpost Washington, I meet remarkable people, and we end up with two people, quite frankly, that just should h- be nowhere near the White House because of biology. It has nothing about their character. Let's just put that aside right now. People this old should not be put in positions that require this exacting a cognitive, physical, and emotional, and mental stamina which nobody has at that age. I don't- I don't care- I don't care if you're fucking Jack LaLanne. This is just insane. But anyways, here we are, here we are, but the reality is they're both- uh, they're both really old men. And so, uh, i- I- it- I find it discouraging that that's- those are the two people we've produced. But this, in my view, was either very poor judgment or a naked hit piece.

  7. KS

    Yeah. It was a hit piece.

  8. SG

    Because to think that this wasn't gonna go crazy in the media and that they were gonna zero in on this shit was just not-

  9. KS

    I- I thought the media could have done a much better job.

  10. SG

    ... to be honest with the impact.

  11. KS

    Because K- Trump has been saying i- like literally at Pennsylvania and then North Carolina, he said a series of incoherent things. I think the point I was trying to make actually on Chris Wallace, uh, the show because they were like, "This is a big problem." Like, are- are you- Trump, you know- i- you know, he's not as- Trump isn't as bad. I'm like, "Almost worse." Because he says incoherent things.

  12. SG

    We've gotten used to a Trump.

  13. KS

    Uh, you're used to it. You're used to his inco-

  14. SG

    He lies so much that we- that we don't think it's cognitive decline.

  15. KS

    Someone- someone- someone wrote, "He- Trump is incoherent and occasionally is coherent and Biden is coherent and is occasionally incoherent."

  16. SG

    That's right. That's exactly right.

  17. KS

    But more- more than that, Biden has always had gaffes, right? He's definitely old, no question, and he has more gaffes than ever. He's always has gaffes. Trump is getting increasingly insane. That- that's- that's- and that's like- it reminds me- and the reason I think Biden gets more attacked for it is because he's that- I'm thinking of a nursing home. He's the nice guy in the nursing home that occasionally can't find his apartment, right? That kinda- like I'm gonna use a metaphor. Trump is the guy in the- uh, in the cafeteria who's- who accuses everyone of stealing his fork or his jello or whatever. The reason he seems more vigorous is 'cause he's louder, but that doesn't make him any less cognitively disabled, right? He just seems vigorous and that's true, but the crazy one in the nursing home is the one I'm worried about. The loud one is the one I'm worried about. Uh, not the sort of friendly old guy who's effective, by the way, speaking of which. Now, um, the day- let me just say, the day after the- the- the- his comments encouraging Russia to do whatever the hell they want, any NATO country, doesn't meet defense g- guidelines, this is a dangerous, incoherent person who already was problematic. The NEC- NA- NATO Secretary General said Trump's words could undermine security and put American and European forces at risk. These comments, uh, and- and Nikki Haley even said, "This kind of comment that makes Joe Biden look clear-headed." Joe Biden is clear-headed about this. Um, these comments are- uh, if he- if he's not incoherent, then he's dangerously, uh, leading us into a world war. It's just astonishing that- that there's even a comparison between the two and that equalization of this. And the fact that the New York Times did not put this on the very top of the- of the thing and kept referring to Joe Biden's- that stupid report was, I think, a dereliction of their duty. Uh, that's- I'd never say that about a media but in this case, when I heard that out of his mouth, I was like, "Are you kidding me what he just said?" Um, dangerous and if he meant it, he's dangerous, and if he's incoherent, he's even worse, more dangerous.

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