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Kara and Scott are joined by MS NOW’s Stephanie Ruhle to unpack SpaceX’s blockbuster IPO, OpenAI’s public market ambitions, and rising inflation. Then, they discuss the White House’s Epstein headache, Paramount taking aim at Netflix, and the growing push to ban social media for teens. #pivot #podcast #karaswisher #scottgalloway #elonmusk #spacex #ipo #openai #inflation #jeffreyepstein #trump #paramount #warnerbros #socialmediaban 00:00 Intro 00:13 SpaceX IPO 14:19 OpenAI Files for IPO 15:58 Inflation Rising 27:40 WH Epstein Freakout 36:25 Paramount/WB Deal Hurdles 42:01 Social Media Bans 51:19 Predictions Producers: Lara Naaman Zoë Marcus Taylor Griffin Todd Wiseman Vox Media's Executive Producer of Podcasts: Nishat Kurwa Subscribe to Pivot on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pivot/id1073226719 Subscribe to Pivot on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4MU3RFGELZxPT9XHVwTNPR Follow us on Instagram and Threads at: https://www.instagram.com/pivotpodcastofficial/ Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@PIVOTPODCAST Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or email pivot@voxmedia.com

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Jun 12, 202656mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. SpaceX IPO stakes: pricing, Musk’s politics, and who investors are really buying

    Kara, Scott, and guest Stephanie Ruhle frame SpaceX’s IPO as more than a company debut: it’s a bet on Elon Musk’s power and behavior. They juxtapose the eye-popping valuation with Musk’s inflammatory political interventions abroad and ask why underwriters and markets show little moral hesitation.

  2. Index inclusion and “manufactured scarcity”: how the IPO could be engineered to pop

    Scott argues the undercovered story is rule-bending that forces passive funds to buy, while limiting shares available to trade. He claims the combination of index demand and a constrained float creates a powerful, artificial squeeze upward—potentially a massive wealth transfer to insiders.

  3. Government contracts, political leverage, and “embedded” corporate power

    The conversation shifts to Musk’s relationship with government: reliance on contracts, influence over policy, and the idea that once a firm is entrenched, it’s hard to unwind—even under a new administration. Ruhle likens government entanglement to a tick bite that doesn’t easily come out.

  4. How the IPO may trade: hype cycles, retail FOMO, and “cult stock” dynamics

    Kara and Stephanie predict intense early enthusiasm, with many buyers ignoring the prospectus and chasing a quick trade. Scott calls SpaceX a “cult, not a company,” arguing Musk’s history of delivering returns despite questionable fundamentals fuels FOMO.

  5. Can divestment matter? Morality vs financial self-interest

    A listener asks whether collective divestment from funds that must hold SpaceX could send a meaningful signal. Ruhle says economic boycotts are the only language that consistently forces change, but doubts people will follow through; Scott argues most will choose returns over principle.

  6. OpenAI (and Anthropic) IPO filings: timing, fragile markets, and “don’t be last”

    The group quickly pivots to OpenAI filing for an IPO and compares the AI IPO wave to the SpaceX benchmark. Ruhle argues these firms want to avoid being the last to market if AI enthusiasm cools; Scott says a strong SpaceX debut would reset valuation expectations upward for everyone.

  7. Inflation print and political fallout: compounding costs and who gets hurt

    Inflation at 4.2% becomes a discussion about affordability, messaging, and distributional pain. Ruhle argues Trump’s “I love it” soundbite is politically damaging; Scott explains compounding and emphasizes inflation hits earners without assets hardest—fueling resentment and instability.

  8. Ruhle’s new show pitch: why business + politics coverage needs a reset

    Before departing, Ruhle explains the thesis behind “Money, Power, Politics”: the economy drives voting and policy is increasingly shaped by money, grift, and regulatory capture. She criticizes traditional business TV as being too market-investor-centric and calls for broader public-facing accountability journalism.

  9. Epstein files “war room”: White House panic, media strategy, and public numbness

    Kara details reporting from Haberman/Swan about an internal Epstein “war room” and chaotic comms ideas, then asks if it will matter politically. Scott doubts it will break through compared with other crises, while Kara argues Epstein remains foundational for parts of the base and won’t fade.

  10. Bill Gates and Epstein: reputational damage and crisis containment tactics

    They discuss Gates’ closed-door testimony and how timing can minimize coverage. Kara argues Gates is permanently tarnished and will face Epstein questions indefinitely, regardless of philanthropic accomplishments; Scott agrees on the reputational hit and notes the classic “bury it on a big news day” play.

  11. Paramount–Warner Bros. merger turbulence: Netflix as scapegoat and debt reality

    Kara recounts Paramount’s claim that Netflix is trying to poison regulators against the deal, but both she and Scott are skeptical that Netflix is running an overt campaign. They focus instead on antitrust scrutiny by state AGs, EU review concerns (including foreign wealth fund backing), and the deal’s heavy debt load.

  12. Teen social media bans: why regulation is finally moving (outside the U.S.)

    Canada and the UK consider bans for under-16s, with Australia as a cautionary example about enforcement and circumvention. Scott strongly supports bans and argues social media rewires adolescent development; Kara says even imperfect rules matter because they signal societal boundaries like seat belts or tobacco limits.

  13. Predictions: podcast ad windfall and “the fix is in” for SpaceX

    Scott predicts a surge in spending as AI companies pay major podcasts for “exclusive” endorsements or positioning. He then returns to SpaceX, forecasting the IPO structure and political influence will drive a strong first-day signal—an engineered pricing outcome that benefits insiders and amplifies future AI IPOs.

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