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Why is Everyone Freaking Out About AI Right Now? | Pivot

Kara and Scott unpack the recent AI panic, as Dario Amodei calls for a slowdown, Donald Trump dismisses concerns, and Sam Altman says OpenAI won’t go public this year. Then, they discuss Mark Carney’s push for closer ties with the EU, and why Canada and the U.S. may not be getting back together anytime soon. Plus, California’s new online child-safety laws, and Mitch McConnell’s surprise return to the Senate. Subscribe to Pivot! https://www.youtube.com/@pivot?sub_confirmation=1 00:00 Intro 00:19 The AI Panic 17:53 OpenAI Rules Out 2026 IPO 22:51 California Social Media Safety Laws 27:05 Mark Carney Courts Europe 35:21 Mitch McConnell Returns 43:54 Wins and Fails #pivot #pivotpodcast #podcast #karaswisher #scottgalloway #ai #anthropic #darioamodei #samaltman #openai #elonmusk #grok #markcarney #canada #tradewar #trump #california #airegulations #airegulation #regulation #mitchmcconnell #ussenate #senator Producers: Lara Naaman Zoë Marcus Taylor Griffin Todd Wiseman Vox Media's Executive Producer of Podcasts: Nishat Kurwa Subscribe to Pivot on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pivot/id1073226719 Subscribe to Pivot on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4MU3RFGELZxPT9XHVwTNPR Follow us on Instagram and Threads at: https://www.instagram.com/pivotpodcastofficial/ Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@PIVOTPODCAST Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or email pivot@voxmedia.com About Pivot With great power, comes great scrutiny. Every Tuesday and Friday, journalist Kara Swisher and NYU Professor Scott Galloway offer sharp, unfiltered insights into the biggest stories in tech, business, and politics. They make bold predictions, pick winners and losers, and bicker and banter like no one else. Episodes blend breaking news analysis with bold predictions, sharp debate, and the occasional argument between the two hosts. From New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network.

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At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Pivot argues AI panic reflects governance failure, not unstoppable machines

  1. Swisher and Galloway argue the AI panic is driven less by “runaway AI” and more by human incentives, weak governance, and a largely unregulated frontier-model industry.
  2. They criticize Trump and congressional leadership for dismissing or delaying meaningful oversight, framing it as a failure of competence and integrity rather than a lack of ideas.
  3. They outline concrete regulatory mechanics—pre-market safety review, mandatory incident reporting, independent evaluators with subpoena power, and compute-based fees—modeled on agencies like the FAA, FDA, SEC, and NTSB.
  4. They highlight how AI safety rhetoric can double as competitive strategy, potentially used by incumbents to shape regulation that disadvantages open source and smaller rivals.
  5. They pivot to geopolitics and domestic governance, praising Mark Carney’s EU outreach amid U.S. trade hostility and condemning U.S. gerontocracy through Mitch McConnell’s return and calls for term/age limits and mandatory physicals.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

The U.S. is running a high-stakes experiment: a trillion‑dollar AI sector with minimal regulation.

They argue that letting companies ship increasingly capable models without binding rules creates systemic risk (biosecurity, cyberattacks, misinformation, youth mental health) while concentrating gains privately and externalizing harms publicly.

Accountability should attach to AI makers and executives—not to “AI” as an abstract actor.

They contend leaders should be legally on the hook for foreseeable harms caused by their deployed systems, similar to owners of dangerous dogs or parents who negligently allow access to lethal weapons—potentially including criminal penalties.

A workable AI safety regime already has templates: pre-market review + incident reporting + real enforcement.

They propose a regulatory architecture modeled on the FAA/FDA/SEC: pre-deployment safety review for frontier models, mandatory incident reporting (like the NTSB), independent evaluation with subpoena power, and funding via fees on frontier compute rather than taxpayers.

AI risk management is inherently multilateral—closer to nuclear/bioweapons governance than normal tech policy.

They argue U.S.–China coordination is essential because both countries share interests in preventing bioweapons acceleration, destabilizing misinformation, and youth harms; without diplomacy, unilateral postures won’t contain global risks.

Some AI ‘safety’ advocacy is also competitive positioning—especially against open source.

They view calls for “slowdown” from major labs as partly strategic: regulation can entrench incumbents who can afford compliance and potentially disadvantage open-source and smaller competitors.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

AI is not gonna kill ten, uh, there's not a less, there's a ten percent chance that AI will kill us. There's a ten percent chance that these companies and their leaders will kill us.

Kara Swisher

We have never in the history of the modern economy had a trillion-dollar industry that is totally unregulated.

Scott Galloway

If one of their bots creates a, a virus and kills people, they need to go to jail, period.

Kara Swisher

Pre-market safety review for all models above a certain capability line.

Scott Galloway

Tim Snyder has coined it best. We are in the midst and witnessing superpower suicide.

Scott Galloway

Trump dismissing AI concernsAnthropic “slowdown” call and industry incentivesLiability for AI harms and executive accountabilityRegulatory models: FAA/FDA/SEC/NTSB analogiesIndependent evaluation and subpoena powerOpenAI IPO delay and market fragilityCalifornia child online safety and AI companion laws

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