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Will Reddit's IPO Be Successful?

Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway discuss Reddit going public and whether the IPO will be a winner. They also discuss reactions and critiques from the Pivot fanbase on Reddit. Listen to the full episode wherever you get your podcasts.

Kara SwisherhostScott Gallowayhost
Feb 28, 20247mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 0:30

    Reddit files for IPO: valuation target, user scale, and a power-user share program

    Kara lays out Reddit’s long-awaited IPO filing and frames it as an important test for the 2024 tech IPO market. She highlights key headline metrics, the $5B+ valuation talk, and the unusual plan to let tens of thousands of power users buy at the IPO price.

    • First major tech IPO of the year; first social media IPO since Pinterest (2019)
    • Bankers seeking at least a ~$5B valuation
    • Reddit scale: ~73M daily active users; among most visited US sites
    • Plan to offer ~75,000 power users access to IPO-priced shares
    • Reddit has operated since 2005, making it a long-maturing public-market candidate
  2. 0:30 – 0:57

    Business model and controversy: ads dependency and data-licensing deal with Google

    Kara notes Reddit’s heavy reliance on advertising and flags new tensions around monetization. She points to the recently announced data-licensing agreement with Google as a controversial move among parts of the user base and asks Scott for his take.

    • Advertising remains Reddit’s core revenue engine
    • IPO seen as a broader signal for whether markets are reopening
    • Data licensing emerges as a key new revenue lever and flashpoint
    • $60M Google deal is presented as the most controversial recent development
    • Concerns that users/community may resist monetization approaches
  3. 0:57 – 1:27

    IPO market “thaw”: bullish public markets and the hunt for a breakout deal

    Scott situates Reddit’s offering in a broader market rebound, arguing sentiment is improving. He cites rising indices and NVIDIA-driven enthusiasm as catalysts, and points to an IPO pipeline where Reddit or Shein could become the first big winner.

    • Perception that IPO windows are reopening as markets hit new highs
    • NVIDIA and AI-driven gains reviving “animal spirits”
    • Multiple IPOs queued up, waiting for one to “pop”
    • Shein and Reddit positioned as potential bellwethers for the cycle
    • Scott expresses personal optimism about Reddit
  4. 1:27 – 1:52

    Reddit’s traffic rank as the bull case: “third most trafficked site in the US”

    Scott argues the simplest investment thesis is Reddit’s massive user traffic, comparing it to the scale associated with much larger companies. He lists top US sites and emphasizes Reddit’s surprisingly high placement as a mismatch versus a $5B valuation.

    • Scott checks “most trafficked sites in America” as a starting point
    • Claims ranking: Google #1, YouTube #2, Reddit #3
    • Compares Reddit’s traffic to other giants (Facebook, Amazon)
    • Kara adds anecdotal validation: her kids use Reddit
    • Traffic scale framed as the core justification for investor interest
  5. 1:52 – 1:56

    A quick detour on rankings: Yahoo’s surprising placement and Twitter’s decline

    The hosts react to the traffic list, particularly Yahoo appearing above Twitter. The exchange underscores how legacy internet properties can still command meaningful audience attention despite shifts in cultural relevance.

    • Yahoo’s presence in the top traffic list surprises Kara
    • Scott notes he is a Yahoo shareholder
    • Kara suggests Twitter is “probably dead,” implying diminished reach
    • Highlights divergence between perceived relevance and actual traffic
    • Sets up a broader point about attention eventually monetizing
  6. 1:56 – 2:40

    Attention vs. ad dollars: why Reddit might be under-monetized relative to its reach

    Scott explains a long-running media dynamic: over time, advertising revenue tends to align with where consumer attention goes. He argues that highly trafficked digital destinations usually correspond to much larger valuations, implying Reddit has room to grow revenue and market cap.

    • Recalls historic charts comparing attention share to ad revenue share
    • Thesis: over time, attention and ad dollars “normalize”
    • Most trafficked sites often become trillion-dollar-scale businesses
    • Reddit’s proposed ~$5B valuation looks small versus its traffic rank
    • Kara agrees the valuation sounds like a “bargain”
  7. 2:40 – 2:51

    Monetization reality check: heavy ad reliance and vulnerability to ad market swings

    Kara tempers the enthusiasm by emphasizing Reddit’s current financial mix and exposure to advertising cycles. The discussion surfaces the risk that Reddit’s business isn’t as diversified or resilient as the largest platforms.

    • Kara emphasizes Reddit’s revenue concentration in advertising
    • Ad markets can be volatile, affecting performance and valuation
    • Scott counters that Meta/Google/Alphabet are also ad-driven
    • Kara notes Reddit is much smaller, which can amplify risk
    • Sets up the question of whether Reddit can scale monetization effectively
  8. 2:51 – 3:13

    Platform governance and brand risk: moderation history and ‘shaggy dog’ identity

    Kara brings in qualitative factors: leadership familiarity, Reddit’s moderation evolution, and historical controversies around toxic communities. She characterizes Reddit as a distinctive, sometimes unwieldy social platform with persistent brand and governance challenges.

    • Kara references multiple interviews with CEO Steve Huffman
    • Credits Reddit with early focus on content moderation
    • Acknowledges past issues with “heinous” communities/content
    • Calls Reddit a “shaggy dog” social platform—unique but messy
    • Highlights reputational and operational risks alongside opportunity
  9. 3:13 – 3:28

    AI ‘spice’ and data licensing: the Google deal as a new narrative for growth

    Scott pivots back to upside, pointing to the $60M Google data deal as a sign Reddit can monetize its corpus in the AI era. He frames data licensing and AI positioning as a strategic story that could boost valuation—while noting it also introduces risk.

    • $60M Google licensing deal described as adding “AI spice”
    • Expectation that licensing revenue could grow over time
    • Possibility Reddit brings more content/data monetization in-house
    • Data/AI monetization framed as both opportunity and risk
    • Reinforces the market’s appetite for AI-adjacent narratives
  10. 3:28 – 3:40

    Avoiding the Snap/Pinterest trap: can Reddit translate traffic into durable growth?

    Scott warns Reddit can’t drift like other social IPOs that struggled post-listing. He argues that if Reddit maintains its traffic leadership and successfully attaches an AI-driven monetization story, it could outperform and help reignite the IPO market.

    • Snap and Pinterest cited as cautionary examples of stalled trajectories
    • Key requirement: convert massive traffic into stronger monetization
    • AI framing seen as a lever to change investor expectations
    • Reddit’s sustained position among top global sites is central to the bull case
    • The IPO’s reception could influence broader tech offering momentum
  11. 3:40 – 7:56

    Scott’s investing intent and the bigger signal: Reddit or Shein as an IPO market catalyst

    Scott openly says he plans to try to buy into the IPO, predicting Reddit or Shein could “set the IPO market on fire.” Kara notes Shein’s different business category (retail), underscoring how varied the next wave of offerings may be.

    • Scott discloses intent to seek IPO allocation
    • Predicts Reddit or Shein could be the breakout deal for 2024 IPOs
    • Frames success as a sentiment catalyst for the entire IPO pipeline
    • Kara contrasts Shein as a retailer versus Reddit as a platform
    • Ends on the notion that the next big IPO winner will shape the cycle

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