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Product SchoolAxon CPTO on How Law Enforcement Uses AI to Save Lives, Not Just Hit Metrics | Jeff Kunins | E303
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EPISODE INFO
- Released
- July 8, 2026
- Duration
- 41m
- Channel
- Product School
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EPISODE DESCRIPTION
In this episode of The Product Podcast by Product School, Carlos González de Villaumbrosia sits down with Jeff Kunins, Chief Product Officer and Chief Technology Officer at Axon, the company that created the Taser and the body cameras law enforcement agencies wear. Axon ingests more video per year than YouTube, and with a market cap of approximately $32.9 billion and $2.78 billion in revenue, growing 33% year over year, it is one of the highest-growth companies in the S&P 500. What you'll learn:
- How law enforcement agencies are using AI inside body cameras and Tasers to save lives, not just hit metrics.
- Why Axon declared a public moratorium on facial recognition AI for six years and what finally changed.
- How Axon embeds external activists and researchers directly into product manager squads as a design input, not a compliance process.
- Building first-party AI models for real-time license plate detection while using foundation LLMs for everything else.
Key takeaways:
- Axon created the Taser and the body cam, and now ingests more video per year than YouTube. Most people have never heard of them.
- Build only what you must to be differentiated. Everything else, license from the best available source.
- Ethics review is not a compliance burden. When embedded in the product lifecycle, external critics help you see around corners and design better products.
00:00 🎬 Cold Open 00:58 🎙️ Introduction 02:46 🏢 What Axon Does 05:20 🔫 Founder Story: Taser Origins 07:43 📈 Scaling Founder Leadership 08:29 👥 C-Suite Org Design 09:43 🧩 Hardware Software Product Org 10:13 🛒 Prime Style Bundles 13:17 🔒 Security Inside R&D 13:38 🏛️ Selling to Government 16:34 🛡️ Federal, Military, Dedrone 18:24 ❤️ Measuring Lives Saved 22:00 ⚡ Shipping Hardware Fast and OTA 27:55 🤖 AI Strategy: Build vs Buy 32:28 🚫 Ethics and Facial Recognition 💼 Build your AI Operational Model with Product Partners: https://prdct.school/3RMzy0l 🚀 Learn AI skills and become an AI Builder: https://prdct.school/3RVzRDv ABOUT US: Product School ( https://prdct.school/3IHRjtN) is the leader in AI training for Product teams, trusted by Fortune 500 companies and a community of 2.5M+ professionals. Our expert-led, live, hands-on programs, run by AI-first product leaders, embed practical AI skills to help organizations innovate faster, experiment at scale, and achieve measurable business outcomes.
SPEAKERS
Jeff Kunins
guestChief Product Officer and Chief Technology Officer at Axon, leading product and technology for public-safety tools such as body cameras, cloud video, and AI-enabled workflows.
Carlos González de Villaumbrosia
hostCEO at Product School and host of The Product Podcast.
EPISODE SUMMARY
In this episode of Product School, featuring Jeff Kunins and Carlos González de Villaumbrosia, Axon CPTO on How Law Enforcement Uses AI to Save Lives, Not Just Hit Metrics | Jeff Kunins | E303 explores Axon’s CPTO on mission-driven AI, hardware, and responsible policing tech Jeff Kunins explains Axon’s mission-driven focus on “protect life and obsolete the bullet,” including a 10-year goal to reduce US gun-related deaths between police and the public by more than 50%.
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