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Amazing Benefits Of Walking Backwards Everyday You Never Knew About (Heal Pain, Posture & Stress)

This episode is brought to you by: Vivobarefoot: Get 20% off your first order, visit: https://bit.ly/4jF8icF AG1: Get 1 year's FREE Vitamin D3+K2 and 5 travel packs visit: https://bit.ly/43FwxQl Timeline: Get 25% off your order of Mitopure https://timeline.com/livemore Download my FREE Habit Change Guide HERE: https://bit.ly/3VCaV34 Our posture, our breath, the way our feet strike the ground – all tell the story of how we move through life. But how often do we pay attention to this story - or even rewrite it? Today’s returning guest on my Feel Better, Live More podcast believes that pain, stiffness and fatigue aren’t just things to manage – they’re messages. And when we learn to listen to the body with the right lens, we can move better, feel better and even live better. I’m delighted to welcome Lawrence van Lingen back to the show. Lawrence is a highly sought-after expert in biomechanics, bodywork and human performance. Described by Triathlete Magazine as ‘the genius of running,’ Lawrence has over 25 years’ experience working with elite athletes and everyday people.  He’s developed a unique approach that goes beyond traditional methods, blending a deep knowledge of movement, posture and breath to optimise performance and overall well-being. Lawrence works with some of the world’s greatest athletes to enhance their performance and help them with so-called ‘untreatable’ injuries. His online running workshops have become the backbone of remarkable athletic comebacks, and they’ve also helped many people worldwide move without pain and with greater enjoyment.  His first appearance back on episode 491 of this podcast really resonated with a lot of listeners, and I’m so pleased to be diving even deeper into his holistic philosophy. In this conversation, we explore a variety of topics, including: - The life changing benefits of backward walking - The relationship between our stress levels and the way that we move - Why most of us are over-breathing and the implications of doing so - The true role of the diaphragm – not just for breathing, but also for spinal alignment, emotional balance, and nervous system regulation - How modern habits like sitting, shoe-wearing and screen use are affecting us - Why your feet are more than just a base – they’re a sensory system that guides your balance, posture and power - How fascia – the body’s connective tissue matrix – influences everything from flexibility to feeling grounded  - Why stretching alone often doesn’t resolve tightness – and how restoring communication in the body is the real key to lasting change Lawrence’s clear explanations and everyday metaphors bring the body’s complexity to life. What emerges is a truly empowering message: your body isn’t broken, it’s just been misunderstood. And with awareness, patience and the right input, it knows exactly how to heal and realign itself. I hope you enjoy listening. Show notes https://drchatterjee.com/559 Connect with Lawrence: https://www.lawrencevanlingen.com/ https://www.instagram.com/lawrencevanlingen/ https://www.youtube.com/@LawrencevanLingen https://twitter.com/lorenzomojo Join Lawrence’s online community https://www.lawrencevanlingen.com Get 10% off with the code FBLM10. #feelbetterlivemore #feelbetterlivemorepodcast ------- Order MAKE CHANGE THAT LASTS. US & Canada version https://amzn.to/3RyO3SL, UK version https://amzn.to/3Kt5rUK ----- Follow Dr Chatterjee at: Website: https://drchatterjee.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drchatterjee Twitter: https://twitter.com/drchatterjeeuk Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drchatterjee/ Newsletter: https://drchatterjee.com/subscription DISCLAIMER: The content in the podcast and on this webpage is not intended to constitute or be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Never disregard professional medical advice or delay in seeking it because of something you have heard on the podcast or on my website.

Dr. Rangan ChatterjeehostLawrence van Lingenguest
May 28, 20252h 7mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 0:57

    Why backward walking is an “antidote to modern life”

    Lawrence explains why he often prescribes backward walking to elite athletes and everyday people: it counters the constant flexion and tension of modern living. He frames it as playful, grounding movement that restores length, timing, and posture.

    • Backward walking as a posture “reset” after lots of sitting and flexion
    • Introduces play and novelty into movement
    • Changes gait timing and reduces habitual tension
    • Encourages openness/length—“get the chair out of your posture”
  2. 0:57 – 2:02

    Calming the nervous system and decompressing the low back

    The conversation shifts to specific benefits: backward walking can down-regulate the nervous system and create space through the pelvis and lower back. Lawrence links the practice to “tensegrity” (fascial support) and learning to put full weight through the leg with less rushing and bracing.

    • Backward walking can feel calming and grounding (autonomic shift)
    • Decompresses lower back/pelvis and creates joint space
    • Encourages full-foot loading and trusting the body’s structure
    • Reduces tension patterns that carry into walking and running
  3. 2:02 – 6:00

    Movement as stress regulation: sympathetic vs parasympathetic

    Rangan and Lawrence explore how movement quality affects stress physiology. Lawrence argues that learning to down-regulate through movement improves sleep, decision-making, relationships, and even thinking—because walking can become rehabilitation rather than another stressor.

    • Modern life keeps many people chronically “wired” (sympathetic dominant)
    • Breath + movement strongly influence autonomic state
    • Down-regulating in the evening improves sleep and next-day resilience
    • The same activity (walking) can be rehab or stress depending on mindset/quality
  4. 6:00 – 8:05

    Why backward walking can work: pattern interruption, heels, and softer hips

    Rangan probes why backward walking changes stress levels; Lawrence explains it’s partly novelty/neuroplasticity, and partly biomechanics. Using the whole foot and learning to trust heel contact can shift tone, soften hip tension, and promote parasympathetic activation.

    • Novelty creates a ‘fresh look’ at walking (neuroplasticity)
    • Toe-up, tense walking can feed sympathetic activation
    • Heel contact and full-foot loading can promote parasympathetic tone
    • Softening hips/adductors/hamstrings changes nervous system output
  5. 8:05 – 12:25

    Trust in movement, trust in life: injuries, confidence, and elite examples

    They connect “trust” to both physical stability and personal identity. Lawrence shares how improving movement reliability reduces fear of injury and builds confidence, illustrated by triathlete Taylor Knibb’s shift from frequent MRIs to resilient performance.

    • Injury fear undermines identity and embodied confidence
    • Building trust in joints/body can transform wider life outlook
    • Taylor Knibb example: from 13 MRIs in 3 years to none in ~2 years
    • Confidence shows up socially and psychologically when the body feels safe
  6. 12:25 – 19:16

    How to start backward walking: safety, surfaces, and the 5‑minute rule

    Lawrence gives practical instructions: prioritize safe open space and ideally go barefoot on grass or sand for sensory input. He recommends five continuous minutes because the brain “breaks down” after ~90–120 seconds, and the later minutes drive neuroplastic gains.

    • Start somewhere safe (people often bump into things at first)
    • Best case: barefoot on grass/sand for foot sensory feedback
    • Carpet/indoors or shoes are acceptable—progress over perfection
    • Aim for ~5 continuous minutes; later minutes may drive more change
  7. 19:16 – 21:14

    Key technique cues: soft toes, heel loading, and belly-button orientation

    Rangan highlights that many people instinctively do the pattern incorrectly. Lawrence outlines the essential cues—relaxed toes, heel contact with full weight, and correct torso orientation (belly button toward the lead/front leg) to restore gait mechanics and nervous-system effects.

    • Soft toes: let toes bend/relax as you step back
    • Heel must come down; load the heel with full weight
    • Torso/solar plexus points toward the lead (front) leg
    • Common error: belly button points toward the stepping-back leg (reversed gait)
  8. 21:14 – 22:49

    Decompressing the spine and improving running form—fast

    Lawrence defines “spinal decompression” using a suspension-bridge analogy: reduced muscle tension creates length and disc relief. He suggests measuring height changes and using before/after running video; he expects noticeable form improvements within ~2 weeks of practice.

    • Spine length can increase when paraspinal tension releases
    • Decompression may reduce disc pressure and help back pain patterns
    • Measure height and film running form to track changes
    • Backward walking (even 3x/week) can quickly improve running mechanics
  9. 22:49 – 32:55

    Play, curiosity, oxytocin—and why most people don’t enjoy running

    They argue that playfulness and curiosity signal a healthier parasympathetic state, while defensiveness and reactivity reflect sympathetic dominance. Lawrence cites survey data suggesting many runners don’t enjoy running, and proposes movement practices that reframe exercise as enjoyable and sustainable.

    • Play/curiosity correlate with parasympathetic regulation and neuroplasticity
    • Reactive/guarded states reflect stress physiology
    • Flow rope and backward walking often create smiling/laughter (play)
    • Strava survey claim: many run for benefits but don’t enjoy it—sustainability problem
  10. 32:55 – 45:01

    Running injuries, the ‘Strava effect,’ and redefining success

    The discussion critiques performance obsession, comparison, and pace-tracking pressure. Lawrence shares examples of improved running efficiency (including elite triathlete Jan Frodeno) and emphasizes that ‘trying too hard’ can worsen outcomes—efficiency and feel matter more than metrics.

    • Comparison/pace tracking can add stress and degrade experience
    • Efficiency can reduce soreness—pain after runs isn’t inevitable
    • Elite example: Frodeno felt workouts ‘didn’t touch sides’ after efficiency gains
    • Running should include play, variation, and internal focus, not constant PB chasing
  11. 45:01 – 46:47

    Respecting joint mechanics: move well first, then strengthen

    Lawrence explains ‘respecting joints’ as honoring the natural coupled motions and constraints of each joint. He challenges the usual rehab narrative—first learn a pattern that doesn’t stress the joint, then strengthen and condition that better pattern.

    • Joints have built-in movement patterns (e.g., hip coupling)
    • Pain often signals movement out of pattern and ligament/cartilage stress
    • Rehab priority: restore non-painful mechanics before loading/strengthening
    • Strength layered on dysfunction can entrench problems
  12. 46:47 – 56:36

    Marathon mindset, pain thresholds, and the cost of pushing through

    They discuss the London Marathon and broader endurance culture, emphasizing identity-free decision-making and long-term health. Lawrence gives a practical guideline: pain above ~3/10, worsening during the run, or persistent pain should prompt reconsideration—joint inflammation can become systemic and long-lasting.

    • Lawrence’s marathon plan: run with a friend; prioritize fun and camaraderie
    • If pain escalates, he would stop—identity not tied to finishing
    • Example: Taylor Knibb agreement to step off if future career risk arose
    • Rule of thumb: >3/10 pain or worsening pain is a red flag; joint damage is hard to reverse
  13. 56:36 – 1:08:59

    Community as performance medicine: culture, tribe, and learning by assimilation

    They contrast Western individualism with community-based running cultures (e.g., Kipchoge’s group training). Lawrence argues ‘culture is the coach’: supportive groups shape behavior, reduce comparison, and naturally improve movement through shared rhythm and calm.

    • Kipchoge never runs alone; community enforces consistency and support
    • Western solo training can amplify ego, tracking pressure, and isolation
    • Running with better movers improves your form through assimilation
    • Lawrence’s community model: culture shapes habits more gently than commands
  14. 1:08:59 – 1:23:06

    Tonic vs phasic muscles, breathing, and somatovisceral movement

    Lawrence defines tonic (postural/breathing) vs phasic (movement) muscles and explains how tight tonic muscles inhibit phasic strength (e.g., ‘sleepy glutes’). He links this to the diaphragm/pelvic floor, polyvagal theory, and the modern deficit in slow, center-led ‘somatovisceral’ movement.

    • Tonic muscles: postural/breathing, slow-twitch; dysfunction = tight/reactive
    • Phasic muscles: movement/propulsion; dysfunction = weak/inhibited (glutes/core)
    • Tight tonic system can prevent phasic strengthening from ‘sticking’
    • Somatovisceral movement: slow, spine/organ-centered motion from the ‘engine’
  15. 1:23:06 – 1:37:30

    Practical toolkit: Flow rope patterns, tire walking, and the ‘happy hip hack’

    They outline several ‘upstream’ drills that correct gait and nervous-system balance indirectly: flow rope (especially underhand figure-eight and dragon/drag-and-roll), resisted/tire walking for hip extension, and the simple happy hip hack (same-side arm overhead with stepping) to restore patterning and glute activation.

    • Flow rope: underhand figure-eight is foundational; improves symmetry/timing
    • Tire/resisted walking adds load to reintroduce hip extension (‘press earth away’)
    • Happy hip hack: step + same-side arm overhead; hard to do wrong; heel stays down
    • Drills aim to restore tonic–phasic balance and improve running without over-cueing
  16. 1:37:30 – 1:50:41

    Screens and posture: ‘email apnea,’ vision, neck load, and flexibility

    Lawrence describes how screens affect breathing (screen/email apnea), attention loops, and vision—then connects eye mechanics to postural tone. He offers a simple eye-focus drill (near/far/panoramic) that can immediately improve toe-touch flexibility, and explains how forward-head posture magnifies neck load and headaches.

    • Screens can disrupt breathing patterns and tighten the diaphragm (apnea)
    • Small-screen focus reduces comprehension/retention vs paper or big screens
    • Eye muscles link to neck/postural muscles; fixed focus increases tone
    • Forward head posture multiplies neck load; contributes to pain, fatigue, headaches
  17. 1:50:41 – 2:07:13

    Wrap-up: integrating systems, building trust, and where to find Lawrence’s resources

    They conclude that integrated movement improves systems thinking, confidence, and long-term quality of life. Lawrence shares how his own running and self-trust improved with age, then points listeners to his online community and free AERI breathing app—emphasizing safe breathing and sustainable habit-building.

    • Integrated movement feels like ‘one thing,’ enabling better systems thinking
    • Start small; don’t let perfection block progress
    • Online community: weekly mobility/mastery/breathing/strength sessions
    • AERI app: free guided breathing with emphasis on safety and resilience

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