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Dr Rangan ChatterjeeDr Rangan Chatterjee

Fastest Way To Decreased Lifespan – & You’re Doing It Daily! (Prevent Disease With This One Habit)

This episode is brought to you by: BON CHARGE: Save 20% off with code LIVEMORE https://boncharge.com/livemore Download my FREE Sleep Guide HERE: https://bit.ly/3OzqCap When we think of sunlight, vitamin D is usually the first thing that comes to mind. But the truth is, the full spectrum of light that we get exposed to when we spend time outside plays a vital role in how we sleep, how we feel and even how our cells create energy. This week’s returning guest is Dr Roger Seheult, who believes that sunlight is one of the most accessible and underutilised tools we have for improving health – and the science he shares is compelling. I’m delighted to welcome back to my Feel Better, Live More podcast for our third conversation. Roger is a quadruple board-certified physician in Internal Medicine, Pulmonary Diseases, Critical Care and Sleep Medicine. He is also an Associate Clinical Professor at the University of California, Riverside, and Assistant Clinical Professor at Loma Linda University. Alongside his clinical practice, he co-founded MedCram, a medical education platform with over one million YouTube subscribers, widely used by hospitals and medical schools worldwide. Roger is also a sought-after lecturer and has received multiple awards for his contributions to medicine and education. His passion lies in making complex medical science accessible, and he regularly lectures to schools, hospitals and media outlets. In this conversation, we discuss: ● Why deficiency in sunlight can show up as fatigue, poor sleep, inflammation or even raised cholesterol. ● The three “macronutrients” of light – visible, ultraviolet and infrared – and how each plays a different role in mood, immunity and cellular energy. ● How infrared light penetrates deep into the body, supporting mitochondrial function and how it may help protect against diseases such as diabetes and dementia. ● Why spending 15–20 minutes a day outside – even in the shade – can be enough to recharge our cells. ● The growing evidence that sunlight exposure lowers the risk of all-cause mortality, cancer and heart disease. ● Practical strategies for getting the benefits of sunlight safely, even if you live in colder climates or spend much of your day indoors. Roger also shares his “eight laws of health” – simple, timeless principles that include nutrition, rest, fresh air and sunlight – and explains how neglecting them leads to the chronic conditions he often sees in his work in intensive care. This is a fascinating conversation that will change how you think about sunlight. It isn’t just something that makes us feel good – it’s a fundamental part of how our bodies stay healthy. And the best part? It’s free and available to us all. #feelbetterlivemore ---- Connect with Roger: Website https://medcram.com https://instagram.com/medcram/ https://twitter.com/rogerseheult https://youtube.com/channel/UCG-iSMVtWbbwDDXgXXypARQ #feelbetterlivemore #feelbetterlivemorepodcast ------- Order MAKE CHANGE THAT LASTS. US & Canada version https://amzn.to/3RyO3SL, UK version https://amzn.to/3Kt5rUK ----- Follow Dr Chatterjee at: Website: https://drchatterjee.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drchatterjee Twitter: https://twitter.com/drchatterjeeuk Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drchatterjee/ Newsletter: https://drchatterjee.com/subscription DISCLAIMER: The content in the podcast and on this webpage is not intended to constitute or be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Never disregard professional medical advice or delay in seeking it because of something you have heard on the podcast or on my website.

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Oct 15, 20251h 57mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 2:13

    Why sunlight deficiency shows up as fatigue, inflammation, and higher mortality risk

    The conversation opens with how hard it is to pinpoint “sunlight deficiency” because its effects show up across many systems. Broad symptoms like fatigue, pain, inflammation, and sleep problems are discussed alongside lab markers that track with sunlight exposure. Dr. Seheult frames daily sunlight as the lowest-effort, highest-impact health intervention.

    • Sunlight exposure correlates with mortality, not just mood or vitamin D
    • Common signs: fatigue, inflammation, pain, sleep disruption
    • Lab shifts reported with more sun: improved cholesterol/triglycerides
    • Sunlight positioned as a top ‘low-hanging fruit’ intervention
  2. 2:13 – 5:09

    We used to design hospitals for light: Florence Nightingale and the lost wisdom

    They explore how prior generations prioritized sunlight and fresh air in healthcare architecture. Florence Nightingale’s bedside observations are used as an anchor for why direct sunlight was historically considered therapeutic. Modern science is then positioned as finally explaining mechanisms behind these observations.

    • Historical hospitals were built to maximize light and ventilation
    • Florence Nightingale emphasized fresh air and direct sunlight
    • Modern health culture deprioritized light compared to diet/exercise/sleep
    • Today’s molecular biology helps explain old clinical observations
  3. 5:09 – 8:14

    Making invisible light visible: infrared photography and what indoor life blocks

    Dr. Seheult describes a smartphone film that converts infrared into visible, revealing how much infrared exists outdoors and how little is present indoors. They connect this to modern indoor living (90%+ of time inside) and the health implications of removing a major part of the solar spectrum. The segment sets up infrared as the ‘missing’ piece people can’t easily track.

    • Infrared is abundant outdoors and strikingly absent indoors
    • Windows and modern buildings can block substantial infrared
    • Visualizing infrared helps people grasp what they’re missing
    • Indoor living dominates modern life (~92–93% indoors)
  4. 8:14 – 18:01

    The 'macronutrients of light': visible, UV, and infrared—and what each does

    They ‘zoom out’ and define three major components of sunlight: visible light, UV, and infrared. Visible light supports mood and circadian timing; UVB drives vitamin D synthesis; infrared penetrates deeply and may impact whole-body physiology. This reframes sunlight as a multi-part biological input rather than a single vitamin D story.

    • Visible light: mood/SAD protection and circadian entrainment
    • UVB: vitamin D3 production via skin chemistry
    • Infrared: long wavelength, deep penetration beyond skin/eyes
    • Analogy: light has ‘macronutrients’ like food does
  5. 18:01 – 21:50

    Infrared physics and penetration: clouds, water absorption, trees as IR mirrors

    They address whether cloudy climates still allow meaningful infrared exposure. Infrared is absorbed by water in clouds, but foliage reflects infrared strongly, spreading it throughout outdoor environments. They discuss warmth through clothing and introduce a study showing near-infrared can traverse the human thorax.

    • Infrared penetrates clothing and tissues; felt as warmth
    • Clouds reduce infrared somewhat, but outdoor levels remain high
    • Leaves/grass strongly reflect infrared, boosting ambient exposure
    • Glen Jeffrey study detected near-infrared through ~30 cm thorax
  6. 21:50 – 31:13

    What infrared does biologically: mitochondria, aging energy decline, and vision gains

    Dr. Seheult links infrared exposure to mitochondrial function—the cell’s energy production system—which declines with age. He explains how restoring mitochondrial efficiency can influence many diseases tied to energy deficits. The Glen Jeffrey work is highlighted showing improved color vision after targeted near-infrared exposure.

    • Infrared influences mitochondrial ATP production and efficiency
    • Aging reduces mitochondrial output substantially (notably retina)
    • Mitochondrial dysfunction connects to many chronic diseases
    • Near-infrared exposure improved color vision thresholds in trials
  7. 31:13 – 35:19

    How much sunlight is enough: biphasic dosing, shade strategies, and modern indoor traps

    They emphasize you don’t need hours of sun exposure—short bouts can have multi-day effects. The concept of biphasic response is introduced: more is not always better. They contrast today’s indoor commute/office lifestyle with prior eras and recommend daily outdoor exposure as a realistic baseline.

    • Small doses can work: ~15–20 minutes may last for days
    • Biphasic effect: benefit plateaus or diminishes with excess exposure
    • Shade near trees can provide meaningful infrared with less UV risk
    • Modern routines systematically eliminate daytime outdoor light
  8. 35:19 – 41:00

    Personal changes and the 'infrared scurvy' idea: why modern lighting removed a key spectrum

    Dr. Seheult shares how he now prioritizes outdoor breaks during hospital shifts and encourages colleagues to do the same. They discuss how energy-efficient building design intentionally eliminates infrared as ‘waste heat.’ The segment culminates in the metaphor: lack of infrared light may be ‘the scurvy of the 21st century.’

    • Practical habit change: outdoor lunch breaks for sunlight exposure
    • Efficiency-driven architecture/light design strips infrared from environments
    • Human comfort optimization can conflict with biological needs
    • Quote: ‘Lack of infrared light is the scurvy of the 21st century’
  9. 41:00 – 49:00

    Beyond sunlight alone: the eight pillars (NEWSTART) and a systems view of chronic disease

    They broaden the lens to an eight-factor framework: nutrition, exercise, water, sunlight, temperance, air, rest, and trust/faith. The idea is that chronic disease often reflects violations across multiple pillars, while acute care saves lives but doesn’t address root causes. Sunlight remains the focus as the most overlooked pillar for many modern people.

    • NEWSTART: nutrition, exercise, water, sunlight, temperance, air, rest, trust
    • Chronic disease often reflects multi-pillar lifestyle mismatches
    • Fresh air includes benefits from nature (phytoncides, microbiome)
    • Medication is vital acutely, but lifestyle pillars matter for prevention
  10. 49:00 – 54:10

    Key trials and the abscopal effect: vision, glucose control, and whole-body signaling

    They review randomized controlled evidence for red/near-infrared benefits, including vision and blood sugar outcomes. Dr. Chatterjee highlights the surprising ‘abscopal effect’ idea: treating one body area can influence another, possibly via mitochondrial signaling. This supports the claim that light can act systemically, not just locally.

    • RCT evidence: near-infrared improved color vision outcomes
    • Red light (e.g., 670 nm) associated with improved glucose tolerance
    • Abscopal effect: benefits can appear in sites not directly illuminated
    • Mitochondria may communicate across tissues; even found circulating
  11. 54:10 – 1:03:30

    When to use red light panels vs the sun: winter benefit, office studies, and a COVID hospital trial

    They address practical use of red light devices as a supplement when sunlight is unavailable—especially in winter or for immobile patients. Office studies suggest infrared additions (incandescent bulbs or panels) can improve outcomes, particularly when baseline sunlight is low. A striking Brazilian COVID trial is described where 15 minutes/day of near-infrared reduced hospital stay length.

    • Red light tools can help when outdoor sun isn’t feasible
    • Office study: incandescent IR improved vision vs LED-only lighting
    • Red panel benefits appeared mainly in winter (when sunlight is scarce)
    • COVID trial: near-infrared ‘jacket’ 15 min/day shortened stay ~4 days
  12. 1:03:30 – 1:07:10

    Windows, low‑E glass, and modern building tradeoffs: why ‘near a window’ isn’t the same as outdoors

    They clarify that some benefits can occur near windows, but modern low‑E glass often blocks infrared to reduce cooling costs. Older hospital window studies may not translate to today’s construction materials. A simple heuristic is offered: if you feel warmth through the window, more infrared is likely getting through.

    • UVB for vitamin D is blocked by glass; outdoors required
    • Modern low‑E glass often blocks infrared as well
    • Older ‘window proximity’ hospital studies may predate low‑E glass
    • Feeling warmth through window can indicate more IR transmission
  13. 1:07:10 – 1:19:04

    Sunlight risk-benefit and skin protection: UK Biobank data, melanoma nuance, and daily ‘solar rhythm’

    They discuss epidemiologic evidence from the UK Biobank and other studies linking greater solar exposure with lower all-cause, cardiovascular, and cancer mortality. Melanoma risk signals are described as not clearly increased in that dataset, prompting calls to rethink blanket sun avoidance. They also explain the day’s natural progression (IR-rich mornings/evenings, more UV mid-day) as a built-in protective rhythm, advocating gradual exposure rather than seasonal extremes.

    • UK Biobank: higher solar radiation/solarium use linked to lower mortality
    • Melanoma incidence not clearly elevated in that analysis
    • Natural daily spectrum shift may prime antioxidant defenses (melatonin theory)
    • Practical compromise: shade, clothing, hats to gain IR with lower UV risk
  14. 1:19:04 – 1:38:02

    LED lighting, screens, and ‘bright nights’: why light timing drives mortality, sleep, and child health

    They explain how LEDs concentrate visible light while stripping infrared—an unprecedented human exposure pattern. Then they pivot to circadian harm from nighttime light and screens, citing large observational work showing light is helpful in daytime hours but harmful overnight. The discussion ends with concerns about children’s evening screen-based homework, delayed sleep, and downstream metabolic and mental health impacts.

    • LEDs: high visible efficiency but minimal infrared; a novel environment
    • Retina needs energy support (IR) alongside visual stimulation (visible)
    • Population studies: light helps by day, increases mortality risk at night
    • Children’s evening screens delay sleep; Kindle vs book studies show measurable impact
  15. 1:38:02 – 1:57:27

    Action plan + evidence: morning outdoor light, SAD boxes, nighttime darkness, and the ‘green heart’ tree study

    They consolidate practical recommendations: get outside daily (especially morning), use a SAD light box when needed, and aggressively reduce nighttime light exposure. Dr. Seheult adds short-term metabolic evidence (sunlight predicts insulin sensitivity and triglycerides within a week) and seasonal mortality patterns peaking after the shortest day. They close with the Green Heart Project: planting 8,000 mature trees reduced inflammatory markers (hs-CRP), supporting nature exposure as a scalable health intervention.

    • Daily outdoors 15–20 minutes; morning is best for circadian + mood
    • SAD box (10,000 lux) as a winter aid for visible light timing
    • After ~9 pm: dim, low-position lighting; minimize screens/blue light
    • Evidence: sunlight predicts metabolic markers within 7 days; seasonal death peaks in winter
    • Green Heart Project: tree planting linked to ~13–20% hs-CRP reduction

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