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Dr Rangan ChatterjeeHow To Improve Your Sleep And Why You Should | Professor Matthew Walker | Audio Only
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WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT
Matthew Walker Explains Sleep Quality, REM Therapy, Caffeine, Trackers and Immunity
- Walker argues sleep is an investment in lifespan, healthspan and productivity, and says the seven to nine hour guideline requires roughly eight hours in bed because of sleep efficiency.
- Both the quantity and the quality of sleep matter, and Walker advises getting out of bed after about 25 minutes awake so the brain does not learn to associate the bed with wakefulness.
- Walker describes REM sleep as overnight emotional therapy that strips the emotional charge from memories while keeping the facts, and links sleep loss causally to anxiety.
- Walker says COVID changed sleep in amount, timing and dreaming, and discusses his softened stance on caffeine, the pros and cons of sleep trackers, and the link between sleep and immunity.
- He closes with practical tips such as a wind-down routine, removing clocks, keeping phones out of the bedroom and seeing a doctor first if you have a sleep disorder.
IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING
5 ideasSeven hours of sleep needs about eight hours in bed
Because healthy sleep efficiency is 85 to 95 percent, Walker calculates you need to be in bed close to eight hours and 13 minutes to get a minimum of seven hours of sleep.
Small increments of extra sleep add up
Walker suggests going to bed 15 minutes earlier, doing bedtime tasks an hour before, and using a to-bed alarm, and Chatterjee likens the gain to compound interest.
Don't lie awake in bed for long stretches
Walker says that after about 25 minutes awake you should get up, do something calm in dim light, and return only when sleepy, so your brain relearns that bed means sleep.
REM sleep strips emotion from memories
Walker says you sleep to remember the details of an experience but to forget its emotional charge, which is why he calls REM sleep overnight therapy and relates it to PTSD.
Sleep loss directly drives anxiety
In Walker's study, one night without sleep pushed 50 percent of healthy participants to clinical-grade anxiety, and modest night-to-night drops in sleep quality predicted next-day anxiety.
WORDS WORTH SAVING
5 quotesSleep is the single most effective thing that you can do to reset your brain and body health each and every day. Sleep is, on the basis of all of the scientific evidence, it is the elixir of life.
— Matthew Walker
we never sit at the dinner table waiting to get hungry. So why would you lie in bed waiting to get sleepy?
— Matthew Walker
it's not time that heals all wounds, it's time during sleep and specifically dream sleep that provides that form of emotional convalescence.
— Matthew Walker
Sleep is not like that as a physiological process. Sleep is much more like landing a plane. It takes time to gradually descend down, and you need to build in a routine.
— Matthew Walker
Less sleep does not equal more productivity. That was not true in the rote industrial era, and it's never been more true now in the digital knowledge era.
— Matthew Walker
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SPEAKERS
Matthew Walker
guestSleep scientist and professor, known for research on sleep and author of "Why We Sleep".
Dr. Rangan Chatterjee
hostMedical doctor and host of the podcast "Feel Better, Live More".
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