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Nervous System Expert: "If Your Body Does This, DON’T Ignore It! — It Means You’re In Survival Mode"

This episode is brought to you by: AG1: Get 10 FREE Travel Packs and Welcome Kit worth $80 visit: https://bit.ly/43FwxQl Download my FREE Sleep Guide HERE: https://bit.ly/3OzqCap Many of us are living with chronically dysregulated nervous systems, yet we mistake this reactive state for normal. Research suggests that our nervous system acts as a lens through which we experience reality. But when that lens is out of balance, we start to see threats where none exist – and respond in an exaggerated way to everyday situations. Today’s guest believes that by learning to work with our body’s innate wisdom, we can transform not just how we respond to stress, but how we experience life itself. Jonny Miller is the founder of Nervous System Mastery, a 5-week bootcamp where he has taught over a thousand students - from the CEO of a rocket-ship company and burned-out startup founders to busy parents and elite performers - how to cultivate calm, rewire reactivity and restore aliveness. After experiencing profound grief following the loss of his fiancée Sophie, Jonny embarked on a journey to understand how our nervous system shapes every aspect of our lived experience. During this incredible conversation, we discuss: • Why anxiety isn’t actually an emotion, but a protective strategy used by the nervous system to shield us from deeper underlying feelings, and the difference between managing emotions and truly feeling them • The three core skills of nervous system mastery: interoception (tuning into our internal world), self-regulation and emotional fluidity, and why developing these can transform every part of our lives • How emotions themselves typically last just 10 - 20 seconds, but our resistance to feeling them creates what Jonny calls “emotional debt,” which can keep us stuck for weeks, months or even years • Why working with the body (a bottom-up approach) can be more effective than trying to ‘think’ our way out of stress, and how it differs from cognitive strategies like reframing • How practices like cold exposure can help train us to stop resisting discomfort and allow challenging sensations to move through us naturally Jonny’s reflections on grief are particularly moving. He shares how losing Sophie taught him that emotions – even the most painful ones – carry their own kind of wisdom. At its heart, this episode is about remembering what the body already knows. Jonny shows us that beneath our stress and reactivity lies a deep intelligence, and that when we learn to trust it, we can move through life with more presence, resilience and peace. I hope you enjoy listening. #feelbetterlivemore ---- Connect with Jonny: Website https://www.jonnymiller.co/ X https://x.com/jonnym1ller?lang=en Instagram https://www.instagram.com/jonnym1ller/?hl=en-gb Podcast https://curioushumans.com/ Nervous System Mastery Course http://nsmastery.com #feelbetterlivemore #feelbetterlivemorepodcast ------- Order MAKE CHANGE THAT LASTS. US & Canada version https://amzn.to/3RyO3SL, UK version https://amzn.to/3Kt5rUK ----- Follow Dr Chatterjee at: Website: https://drchatterjee.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drchatterjee Twitter: https://twitter.com/drchatterjeeuk Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drchatterjee/ Newsletter: https://drchatterjee.com/subscription DISCLAIMER: The content in the podcast and on this webpage is not intended to constitute or be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Never disregard professional medical advice or delay in seeking it because of something you have heard on the podcast or on my website.

Dr. Rangan ChatterjeehostJonny Millerguest
Jul 2, 20251h 43mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. RC

    As you well know, we don't see the world as it is, we see the world as we are.

  2. JM

    Mm-hmm.

  3. RC

    What are some signs, in your view, that might indicate our nervous systems are a little bit out of whack which may color the way we view the world-

  4. JM

    Mm

  5. RC

    ... and change the way we experience life?

  6. JM

    Yeah. I mean, that's beautifully said. I view the nervous system as a, as literally a lens through which we experience reality. And I think our state of our nervous system and the degree to which we're in a mode of reactivity completely dictates our experience of life. So some signs would include, um, f- forms of reactivity. So if you're, like knee-jerk anger is obviously a clear one, or if there's a sense of fatigue or lethargy or, um, sleep is obviously a huge one as well. That's a big symptom of nervous system dysregulation.

  7. RC

    What, that we can't sleep?

  8. JM

    That we or, or, or wake up, struggle to fall asleep, struggle to kind of downshift at the end of the day without kind of using substances. And also, I, I think challenge in relationship is a huge one that I see in my students. So whether it's kind of conflict in different areas or challenges with creating a sense of connection with people that are close to you. There's a lot. Early symptoms of burnout is another one as well. Um, so I, I think about it in terms of like feather, brick, dump truck, and in the beginning maybe your, your nervous system is, is telling you, like, almost like tickling you with a feather of, like, maybe you're going a little bit too hard, maybe it's time to take a bit of a break. And then there's maybe a brick which could be, you know, you wake up feeling exhausted, maybe you're, you've got brain fog, maybe you, you can't really perform at work. And then for some people it takes a dump truck which might be, um, maybe it's like an intense breakup or it's like a health crisis. Um, and it's often unfortunately the dump truck which gets people to really tune in, but it's really just the body giving you feedback.

  9. RC

    Yeah. It's interesting. Those symptoms you mentioned there, some of them, you know, being overly reactive, relationship struggles-

  10. JM

    Mm

  11. RC

    ... maybe anxiety would be in there-

  12. JM

    Yeah, for sure

  13. RC

    ... you know, for many people.

  14. JM

    For sure.

  15. RC

    These are very, very common these days.

  16. JM

    Mm-hmm.

  17. RC

    And it's kind of interesting as I sort of think about your work, I think about this idea that I often say on this show that when people are not eating well in a nourishing way-

  18. JM

    Mm-hmm

  19. RC

    ... and they've never done it before, they don't know how good they can feel.

  20. JM

    Mm. Yeah.

  21. RC

    Right? So until they actually go through the process of having just whole unprocessed foods for two weeks, they have no idea just how much their processed food diet is affecting them in terms of-

  22. JM

    Mm

  23. RC

    ... energy, vitality, and how they experience the world.

  24. JM

    Mm.

  25. RC

    And I kinda see a similar thing with the nervous system.

  26. JM

    Yeah.

  27. RC

    Right?

  28. JM

    Totally.

  29. RC

    Many people are walking around with these kind of, uh, tight and wound up nervous systems-

  30. JM

    Mm

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