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Dr Rangan ChatterjeeDr Rangan Chatterjee

Neuroscientist: If You Feel THIS, You're Living the Wrong Life (Unlock The One You're Meant For)

This episode is brought to you by: WHOOP: Visit https://join.whoop.com/livemore to get up to 10% off all memberships until December 19th BON CHARGE: Save 25% off sitewise until 31st December https://boncharge.com VIVOBAREFOOT: Get 15% off your first order https://bit.ly/4iG2II4 What is intuition? What happens when we die? And, how does trauma get stored in our bodies? These are just a few of the fascinating themes I explore in today’s episode with returning guest, Dr Tara Swart. Tara is a neuroscientist, a former medical doctor & psychiatrist, a lecturer at MIT, an executive coach and author of 2 books, including her very latest The Signs: The New Science of How to Trust Your Instincts In this episode, Tara shares her own personal story about love, loss, and learning to trust herself again, after the death of her husband, Robin. This life changing experience left her questioning her deepest beliefs as a scientist, when in the midst of her grief, she started noticing unusual signs that she felt - she was unable to ignore. At first, she was sceptical, but these moments gradually helped her reconnect with her intuition in ways she never expected. In our conversation, we explore: - What intuition really is and how to start accessing it again - The gut-brain connection, and how emotions, trauma, and even grief can be stored (and released) in the body. - The practical tools and techniques that helped Tara - and can help you - rediscover your own intuition, including journaling, creative practices and nature - How to gently challenge your beliefs and open yourself to possibility (even if, like Tara, you’re sceptical at first). - Reflections on what science can and can’t explain - and why sometimes, believing in something greater (be it love, the universe, or connection itself) can be a healing force. - How to help your children (or yourself!) grow up with a stronger trust in their inner wisdom, without fear or ridicule. We also talk about the disconnection that many of us feel in the modern world, the transformative power of nature and the many different ways in which humans try to make sense of death. This is a raw, honest and thought-provoking conversation that I’m certain will leave you feeling inspired and eager to rediscover your own inner wisdom. #feelbetterlivemore Connect with Tara: Website https://www.taraswart.com/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/drtaraswart/ Twitter https://twitter.com/TaraSwart Facebook https://www.facebook.com/TheSourceDrTaraSwart/ Tara’s books: The Signs: The New Science of How to Trust Your Instincts US https://amzn.to/4901bZW UK https://amzn.to/3Yg4TbL The Source: The Secrets of the Universe, the Science of the Brain US https://amzn.to/44hFqlJ UK https://amzn.to/48CLF4Y #feelbetterlivemore #feelbetterlivemorepodcast ------- Order MAKE CHANGE THAT LASTS. US & Canada version https://amzn.to/3RyO3SL, UK version https://amzn.to/3Kt5rUK ----- Follow Dr Chatterjee at: Website: https://drchatterjee.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drchatterjee Twitter: https://twitter.com/drchatterjeeuk Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drchatterjee/ Newsletter: https://drchatterjee.com/subscription DISCLAIMER: The content in the podcast and on this webpage is not intended to constitute or be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Never disregard professional medical advice or delay in seeking it because of something you have heard on the podcast or on my website.

Dr. Rangan ChatterjeehostDr Tara Swartguest
Dec 17, 20251h 22mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 0:27

    Why modern life disconnects us from intuition (and what intuition really is)

    Rangan opens by arguing that modern life pulls us away from what matters—especially intuition. Tara defines intuition as “hidden wisdom”: pattern recognition built from lived experience, much of it outside conscious recall.

    • Modern life can sever connection to inner guidance
    • Intuition as unconscious pattern recognition from life experience
    • Hebbian learning as a mechanism for deeply embedded patterns
    • Why intuition often feels like “gut instinct”
    • Intuition as accumulated lessons you can’t explicitly remember
  2. 0:27 – 2:29

    The body keeps wisdom: trauma, serotonin, fascia—and embodied intuition

    Tara expands intuition beyond the brain, explaining emerging ideas about how trauma may be stored throughout the body via serotonin-related vascular changes affecting tissues. This sets up her core thesis: the mind is embodied, and intuition may be distributed across brain and body.

    • Trauma may affect the body via serotonin-mediated vascular changes
    • Fascia/muscles as potential sites where experiences are held
    • Bessel van der Kolk’s influence (“The Body Keeps the Score”)
    • Intuition can be embodied—not just cognitive
    • Yoga as a practical example of mind–body union
  3. 2:29 – 4:10

    Signs you’re cut off from intuition: overthinking, rigid logic, repeated patterns, brain fog

    Asked how to spot disconnection from intuition, Tara points to repeated behavioral loops and relationship dynamics, excessive reliance on logic, and chronic anxiety. She also links intuition to the gut-brain axis, where microbiome issues can contribute to brain fog and reduced clarity.

    • Repeating the same mistakes can signal intuition isn’t evolving
    • Overthinking/anxiety and rigid thinking can drown out gut signals
    • Overreliance on rationality even when something ‘feels wrong’
    • Stress both impairs intuition and grows when direction is lost
    • Gut health and brain fog can cloud access to inner signals
  4. 4:10 – 5:53

    Grief as a rupture—and a reconnection: nature, movement, and ancient grieving practices

    Tara shares how her husband Robin’s death disrupted her ability to trust herself, pushing her to find new ways of operating. Psychological safety from community and time in nature—plus movement and body-based therapies—helped her begin reconnecting to intuition and healing.

    • Loss can temporarily sever self-trust and decision confidence
    • Community support provides psychological safety
    • Nature, walking, yoga as pathways back to intuition
    • Ancient rituals (wailing, drumming, dancing) as embodied processing
    • Body realignment/craniosacral therapy accelerating grief healing
  5. 5:53 – 8:35

    Science vs ancient knowing: what if unprovable experiences still matter?

    Rangan challenges whether “new hypotheses” are simply science catching up to what ancestors already knew. Tara recounts a pivotal moment after Robin died that made her question whether only scientifically provable things are important in human life.

    • Questioning the limits of scientific proof in human meaning
    • A skeptical neighbor’s dismissal becomes a turning point
    • Many people privately report sensing signs or presence
    • Tara’s shift: observing her own experience as a neuroscientist
    • Why these topics resonate widely despite stigma
  6. 8:35 – 18:32

    “Signs” after death: robins, repeating numbers, meaning-making—and skepticism

    Tara explains what she means by signs, describing her early skepticism about mediums and how her experience evolved toward personal, meaningful signals—especially numbers linked to Robin’s interests. She responds to skeptics by emphasizing healing, guidance, and the limits of current knowledge.

    • Common signs: birds, feathers, repeating numbers (varies by person)
    • From skepticism about mediums to personal communication attempts
    • Numbers as a meaningful channel (Fibonacci connection)
    • Skeptical objections: coincidence, confirmation bias, priming
    • Why comfort, guidance, and happiness can be enough justification
  7. 18:32 – 20:03

    Freedom after brush-with-death: near-death experiences, terminal lucidity, and awe

    The conversation broadens to near-death experiences (NDEs) and research suggesting they can reduce fear of failure and increase calm risk-taking. Tara also discusses terminal lucidity—unexpected clarity near death—arguing these phenomena challenge purely material explanations and invite curiosity.

    • NDE research (e.g., Bruce Greyson) and post-experience life changes
    • Learning about NDEs can confer similar benefits to having one
    • Terminal lucidity: damaged brains becoming lucid near end of life
    • Why these cases provoke awe and scientific humility
    • Mind/psyche possibly operating beyond expected brain function
  8. 20:03 – 26:36

    Community, collective unconscious, and synchronicity—and the belief that matters most: love

    Rangan highlights Tara’s focus on community and tribes, prompting her to explain Jung’s collective unconscious and synchronicity. The discussion becomes personal as Tara identifies love—not “signs”—as the larger force she feels connected to, echoing how meaning reduces end-of-life regrets.

    • Jung’s collective unconscious: shared human constructs across time
    • Synchronicity as ‘meaningful coincidence’
    • Feeling connected to something greater can reduce fear and regret
    • Palliative care insights: belief in something greater links to fewer regrets
    • Tara’s reframing: the enduring force is love
  9. 26:36 – 33:13

    A modern ‘zeitgeist’: shared themes across podcasts, culture—and a brief ad break

    Rangan and Tara reflect on how similar spiritual/meaning themes keep emerging across guests and conversations, suggesting a cultural moment. After a short sponsorship segment, Tara notes publishing trends and the renewed popularity of related books on signs and connection.

    • Ideas ‘in the ether’: creative flow, songwriting, and channel-like states
    • Similar topics appearing across unrelated conversations
    • Ad break segment (WHOOP, BON CHARGE, Vivobarefoot)
    • Tara observes a broader cultural/publishing trend on these themes
    • Laura Lynne Jackson’s ‘Signs’ reaching bestseller status years later
  10. 33:13 – 35:43

    What the modern world broke: disconnection from self, others, nature, and the ‘greater’

    Tara lays out four crucial connections—self (intuition), others (community), planet (nature), and something greater (spirituality/source). She argues urbanization, screens, and the prioritization of logic over wonder have weakened these links, while nature restores awe, perspective, and purpose.

    • Four connections: self, community, planet, something greater
    • Displacement from land/nature harms identity and cohesion
    • Tech/urbanization and over-rationality reduce awe and embodiment
    • Wonder and eye contact as simple reconnection practices
    • Purpose as direction that ideally transcends the self
  11. 35:43 – 50:43

    Embodiment in practice: nature walks, 34 senses, art as a human need, and releasing trauma

    Both reflect on how grief drew them into nature, where attention expands and intuition returns. Tara discusses research on humans having far more than five senses, the deep evolutionary roots of art/beauty, and why somatic approaches (movement, yoga, creativity) can be essential for trauma processing.

    • Nature walking as a route to clarity, neuroplasticity, and healing
    • Humans may have ~34 senses (including interoception; immune sense)
    • Knowledge evolves—unknown phenomena can still be real
    • Art/beauty predates cave paintings; creativity is deeply human
    • PTSD: talking alone may fail; body/creative therapies help (Broca’s area)
  12. 50:43 – 1:10:00

    How to rebuild intuition: journaling experiments, head–heart–gut alignment, and future-self guidance

    Tara offers practical coaching tools: journaling decisions where logic conflicts with gut, running low-risk experiments, and reviewing patterns over time. She teaches the “unfurling” head–heart–gut exercise, plus perspective-shifting methods like future-self advice and ‘creative mentoring.’

    • Journaling as evidence-building for trusting gut over time
    • Start with low-risk choices; track outcomes for 6–12 months
    • The ‘unfurling’ exercise: head, heart, belly answers
    • Future-self (7 years ahead) exercise for perspective and clarity
    • Creative mentoring: ask admired figures for ‘their’ advice
  13. 1:10:00 – 1:22:26

    Raising intuitive kids, speaking openly about grief, and a final challenge: ask for a sign

    Tara explains how intuition can be ‘schooled out’ of children through ridicule, urging parents to ask “How do you feel?” as much as “What do you think?” She describes the relief of finally sharing her story publicly, and closes with a practical challenge: choose a symbol tied to a loved one and ask for a sign.

    • Children lose intuition when feelings are dismissed or mocked
    • Use language: ‘What does your heart/gut say?’ plus gentle logic checks
    • Hidden wisdom shows up in everyday cues (tension in a room)
    • Public sharing as relief and a way to honor remembrance
    • Final takeaway: start with solo nature walks—and try asking for a sign

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