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The Disease of More: Why You Feel Unhappy, Lost, Addicted & Stressed | Joshua Fields Milburn

This episode is brought to you by: VIVOBAREFOOT: Get 15% off your first order https://links.drchatterjee.com/4nqvRI3 THE WAY APP: Get 30 FREE sessions and begin your journey towards peace, calm and wellbeing. https://thewayapp.com/livemore What if the biggest source of stress in your life is not your job, inbox, or finances – but the simple fact that you have too much stuff? This week, my guest is Joshua Fields Millburn, co‑founder of The Minimalists, whose documentaries, books and podcast have inspired millions of people around the world to reconsider their own relationship with possessions and success. Joshua grew up with very little money, in a home marked by addiction, violence and instability and, as a young man, became convinced that the solution was to be found in acquiring ‘more’: more income, more status and more material comfort. By the age of 30, he had everything he thought he wanted – the big job title, the nice car, the large house, all the visible signs of having “made it”. And yet, inside, he was anxious, overwhelmed and deeply unhappy. Then, in the space of a single month, his mother died and his marriage ended. Those two events forced him to pause and ask some uncomfortable but essential questions: What am I actually doing with my life? Whose values am I living by? Is this endless consumption really what life is all about? That period of questioning led Joshua towards minimalism – not as a trend or an aesthetic, but as a practical framework for living with greater clarity and intention. In our conversation, we discuss: ● How external clutter is often an outward reflection of internal clutter ● Why products so often promise fulfilment but ultimately deliver dissatisfaction ● The difference between healthy consumption and harmful consumerism ● Practical rules that make decluttering simpler, including the 30-day minimalism game, the 90/90 approach to clothes and why a “sale price” can often become a “fool’s price” ● How identity clutter keeps us stuck - when we cling to things, roles or labels, not because we need them, but because we’re afraid of who we’ll be without them ● How minimalism can improve our health and relationships by creating more time, attention and presence. Joshua is a wonderful human being, a brilliant communicator and someone who thinks deeply about the human experience. He believes that minimalism is the art of “addition through subtraction” - it’s not about having less for the sake of it, but about making space for what matters most. #feelbetterlivemore Connect with Joshua: Website https://joshuafieldsmillburn.com/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/joshuafieldsmillburn Twitter https://x.com/JFM YouTube https://www.youtube.com/TheMinimalists Facebook https://facebook.com/theminimalists The Minimalists Podcast https://www.theminimalists.com/podcast/ Joshua’s books: Everything That Remains: A Memoir by The Minimalists https://amzn.to/4jXtsEr Love People, Use Things: Because the Opposite Never Works https://amzn.to/3YMm0Co #feelbetterlivemore #feelbetterlivemorepodcast ------- Order MAKE CHANGE THAT LASTS. US & Canada version https://amzn.to/3RyO3SL, UK version https://amzn.to/3Kt5rUK ----- Follow Dr Chatterjee at: Website: https://drchatterjee.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drchatterjee Twitter: https://twitter.com/drchatterjeeuk Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drchatterjee/ Newsletter: https://drchatterjee.com/subscription DISCLAIMER: The content in the podcast and on this webpage is not intended to constitute or be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Never disregard professional medical advice or delay in seeking it because of something you have heard on the podcast or on my website.

Dr. Rangan ChatterjeehostJoshua Fields Milburnguest
Jan 20, 20261h 31mWatch on YouTube ↗

At a glance

WHAT IT’S REALLY ABOUT

Escaping the disease of more through intentional minimalism and identity

  1. Consumerism promises happiness through acquiring countable externals (stuff, status, followers) but typically delivers only short-lived satisfaction followed by discontent, debt, and stress.
  2. Minimalism is framed not as deprivation or asceticism but as intentionality: keeping essentials and value-adding non-essentials while letting go of “junk” that blocks time, attention, and wellbeing.
  3. The conversation links external clutter to internal clutter (emotional, mental, spiritual) and argues that boundaries and heuristics help protect against constant advertising and impulse purchases.
  4. Identity clutter—overidentifying with roles, labels, jobs, possessions, or relationships—can trap people in misery because letting go of things can feel like losing the self.
  5. Practical tools (e.g., 30-day minimalism game, 90/90 clothing rule, wait-for-it rule, spontaneous combustion test) provide entry points that can lead to deeper self-inquiry about “enough,” comparison, and meaning.

IDEAS WORTH REMEMBERING

5 ideas

The problem isn’t consumption; it’s consumerism.

They distinguish basic consumption (needs) from the ideology that “more” will make you happy; the latter relocates happiness to external objects and fuels chronic dissatisfaction.

Chasing measurable markers can bury the unmeasurable “gold.”

Square footage, bank balances, followers, and likes are easy to count, but meaning comes from harder-to-measure realities like relationship quality, grief, presence, and joy.

External clutter is often a symptom of internal stories.

People struggle to let go not because of the object, but because of the narrative attached to it (security, identity, “just in case,” status, or unresolved grief/anxiety).

Boundaries beat willpower in an ad-saturated environment.

With thousands of ads per day and constant Black Friday-style nudges, rules like “don’t buy from Instagram ads” or “wait 30 hours for purchases over $30” reduce impulsive decisions.

The ‘true cost’ of an item is bigger than its price tag.

Possessions carry ongoing costs—storage, cleaning, maintenance, worry, protection, emotional debt (shame/guilt)—which can outweigh the initial purchase price.

WORDS WORTH SAVING

5 quotes

Consumerism is the ideology that acquiring more… is going to make you happy.

Joshua Fields Milburn

The biggest disease in society is the disease of more.

Dr. Rangan Chatterjee

The most sustainable product is the product that we leave at the store.

Joshua Fields Milburn

The object of our desire becomes the object of our discontent after it’s acquired.

Joshua Fields Milburn

How might your life be better with less?

Joshua Fields Milburn

The “disease of more” and hedonic treadmillConsumerism vs necessary consumptionCountable metrics vs unquantifiable meaningIdentity clutter and labels (job titles, status, minimalist identity)Advertising, digital noise, and impulse control boundariesTrue cost of possessions (time, anxiety, maintenance, storage)Practical decluttering rules: 30-day game, 90/90, 30/30, spontaneous combustion

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