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World’s Fastest Runner: "Why You Feel Empty Inside!" - Let Go Of Perfection & Find Happiness

This episode is brought to you by: WHOOP: Try the New WHOOP today at https://join.whoop.com/livemore VIVOBAREFOOT: Get 20% off your first order https://bit.ly/44khCNr KETONE IQ: Save 30% OFF your subscription order PLUS get a free gift with your second shipment https://ketone.com/livemore Download my FREE Habit Change Guide HERE: https://bit.ly/3VCaV34 When life doesn’t unfold the way we hoped, it can be tempting to see that as failure. But what if it was those moments that actually shape us the most? This week, I’m delighted to welcome Eliud Kipchoge back to the show for a second incredible conversation - recorded just days after he completed the 2025 London Marathon. Eliud is a Kenyan athlete who is widely regarded as the greatest marathon runner of all time. He has won two successive Olympic marathons and 10 major titles. And of course, he’s the only athlete to have ever run a marathon in under two hours, which he did back in 2019 in Vienna as part of the 1:59 challenge. But as you’ll hear in this conversation, his wisdom goes far beyond running as Eliud shares the life lessons that have shaped his journey - not just as an athlete, but as a human being. You’ll also hear: • Why Eliud believes discipline is what creates freedom - and how keeping promises to yourself builds the self-trust needed to face life’s hardest moments • Why failure is not the opposite of success, but, instead, the soil where wisdom grows • How running has become a metaphor for life - with its highs, lows, unexpected challenges and the need to keep moving forward • How Eliud not being able to finish his last Olympic marathon taught him more than any victory ever could • The true power of community, humility, and purpose - and why Eliud still cleans toilets at his training camp despite being a global icon • How planning, consistency and positive thinking guide his life - and why he believes ego is something we must all learn to let go of Throughout our conversation, Eliud speaks with warmth, humility and compassion. He challenges the idea that goals alone define success - reminding us that it’s the process, the discipline and the way we show up every day that truly counts. Whether you’re a runner or not, this episode is an invitation to reflect on your own mindset, your values, and your relationship with setbacks. Eliud shows us that progress isn’t always linear - and that real growth often happens in the moments we never planned for. I hope you enjoy listening. #feelbetterlivemore ----- Show notes available at: https://drchatterjee.com/567 Find out more about Eliud: About https://www.nnrunningteam.com/team/eliud-kipchoge/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/kipchogeeliud/?hl=en Twitter https://twitter.com/EliudKipchoge Facebook https://en-gb.facebook.com/EliudKipchogeOfficial/ Eliud Kipchoge Foundation https://www.eliudkipchogefoundation.org/ Eliud’s book No Human is Limited US https://amzn.to/4kYE1XE UK https://amzn.to/44ehbEd #feelbetterlivemore #feelbetterlivemorepodcast ------- Order MAKE CHANGE THAT LASTS. US & Canada version https://amzn.to/3RyO3SL, UK version https://amzn.to/3Kt5rUK ----- Follow Dr Chatterjee at: Website: https://drchatterjee.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drchatterjee Twitter: https://twitter.com/drchatterjeeuk Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drchatterjee/ Newsletter: https://drchatterjee.com/subscription DISCLAIMER: The content in the podcast and on this webpage is not intended to constitute or be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Never disregard professional medical advice or delay in seeking it because of something you have heard on the podcast or on my website.

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Jun 25, 20251h 34mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. 0:00 – 2:33

    Running a “beautiful race”: values over finishing position

    Dr. Chatterjee opens by asking Kipchoge whether his recent 6th-place London Marathon was still a “beautiful race.” Kipchoge explains that beauty is finishing with the same spirit you started with—guided by respect, integrity, and humanity rather than a number on a results sheet.

    • A beautiful race means starting and finishing with the right spirit
    • Finishing changes you mentally and physically—completion itself is meaningful
    • Values of humanity: respect, integrity, consistency, love
    • Sport as a movement that can uplift people beyond competition
  2. 2:33 – 6:17

    Goals vs joy: the seed-in-soil lesson on process

    The conversation turns to whether time-based goals help or harm everyday runners. Kipchoge supports having visions, but emphasizes that goals without a roadmap can steal joy—what matters most is the preparation hidden “inside the soil.”

    • Set goals, but don’t set too many or over-fixate on them
    • Preparation and planning are the real drivers of progress
    • Seed metaphor: growth happens invisibly through struggle before results appear
    • “Recipes” for performance: training, discipline, nutrition, consistency
  3. 6:17 – 9:47

    The 119 days matter: redefining success and resilience

    Dr. Chatterjee explores how goals can become a trap when one bad race day erases months of good work. Kipchoge reframes this as a mindset problem: the preparation days are the real accomplishment, and setbacks need “shock absorbers” to bounce back.

    • A disappointing race day doesn’t negate months of great preparation
    • Success includes learning and experience gained during the build
    • Build emotional resilience (“shock absorbers”) for setbacks
    • Goals mainly function to keep you disciplined and on course
  4. 9:47 – 15:39

    Aging, legacy, and nurturing the next generation

    With his long winning streak changing, Kipchoge explains why he says younger runners are “better.” He sees his role shifting toward mentorship—providing holistic training and education so the next generation surpasses him and advances the sport.

    • At 40+, he identifies as a mentor rather than “next generation”
    • Holistic education/training to make younger athletes better than him
    • Fatherly love and guidance toward athletes aged 18–22
    • Long-term contribution: using running to spread unity and respect
  5. 15:39 – 21:19

    The “Kipchoge effect”: inspiring belief and breaking barriers

    Dr. Chatterjee shares how Kipchoge influenced his son’s school project about a sub-2-hour official marathon. Kipchoge describes how this kind of impact fuels him daily and predicts the barrier will fall—driven by courage to think, try, and do.

    • Inspiration as an “ignition key” for motivation
    • Parallel to the Bannister effect (4-minute mile)
    • Belief that sub-2 in an official race is achievable within 10 years
    • Key factor: dare to think, dare to try, dare to do
  6. 21:19 – 25:44

    “No human is limited”: origin story and real-life application

    Kipchoge explains how the phrase crystallized during the 2017 sub-2 project amid public skepticism. He argues limits are primarily mental, and extends the message beyond sport—especially to people facing hardship, like single mothers.

    • 2017 Nike sub-2 attempt sparked the “No human is limited” mantra
    • Limits (and being unlimited) begin in the mind
    • He reframes the 25-second miss as evidence of possibility
    • Message to single mothers: break the “cocoon,” believe, and move forward
  7. 25:44 – 28:06

    Marathon as life: bumps, potholes, and breaking the rock

    Kipchoge expands the marathon-life metaphor, describing everyday challenges as bumps and life-altering setbacks as potholes. His framework is practical: repair what breaks, keep moving, and trust that repeated effort eventually breaks the rock.

    • “Marathon is life, and life is marathon”
    • Bumps = smaller challenges; potholes = major setbacks
    • Fix the puncture (adjust), don’t abandon the journey
    • Progress compounds—no effort is wasted even if results lag
  8. 28:06 – 35:55

    Paris Olympics DNF: pain, self-talk, and choosing to continue

    Dr. Chatterjee revisits Kipchoge’s first-ever Olympic marathon dropout in Paris and asks what happened internally. Kipchoge recounts the pain at 20km, the harsh public narratives, and how he reframed the moment into renewed purpose rather than retirement.

    • Physical breakdown at 20km triggered a difficult decision to stop
    • Negative social media messaging (“best dancer leaves the stage”)
    • Stopping felt harder than finishing; sparked thoughts of retirement
    • He recommitted: keep running and use sport as a messenger
  9. 35:55 – 42:37

    Humility in disappointment: walking with the crowd and letting go of anger

    After dropping out, Kipchoge walked with spectators, gave away kit, and stayed connected to people—an expression of his values. He argues humility and calm thinking are impossible when anger dominates, and that setbacks taught him resilience he might have missed in victory.

    • He walked with hundreds of spectators and shared gear as gratitude
    • Running as a movement: “work together” across continents
    • Anger as a destructive weed; humility enables clear thinking
    • Paris setback increased his capacity to handle future adversity
  10. 42:37 – 47:48

    When goals become identity: process-first mindset and daily variability

    Dr. Chatterjee shares Jonny Wilkinson’s post-victory mental health struggles to illustrate how outcome-identity can cause emptiness. They discuss shifting focus to systems and process, and Kipchoge emphasizes that performance fluctuates—so appreciation must be flexible.

    • Goals help, but become harmful when tied to self-worth
    • Put systems in front of mind; keep goals in the background
    • Parkrun example: progress can be overlooked when standards rise
    • Not all days are equal—performance varies with life and physiology
  11. 47:48 – 1:01:31

    Mindset as a skill: discipline, trust, and the “busy is in the mind” debate

    Kipchoge explains that running performance is driven by heart and mind, built through consistent training that keeps confidence steady. They connect discipline to freedom and self-trust, then debate compassion vs discipline—Kipchoge argues planning reveals “loopholes” even in busy lives.

    • The mind controls the body; internalizing purpose makes effort easier
    • Mindset is cultivated through training consistency and target-setting
    • Discipline creates freedom by reducing chaos and indecision
    • Planning your day the night before prevents perceived busyness
  12. 1:01:31 – 1:09:53

    Kenyan running culture and the power of “we”: teamwork, simplicity, and service

    They explore why Kenya produces so many marathoners and how Kenyan athletes celebrate each other’s success. Kipchoge describes running as a team sport, the NN Running Team’s “we” ethos, and how shared routines—including cleaning toilets—reinforce humility and cohesion.

    • Kenyan advantage: culture, altitude, belief, and respect for sport
    • Joy in others’ success comes from accepting outcomes
    • Running as a team sport: trust, community, shared effort
    • Leadership by example: communal chores maintain humility and standards
  13. 1:09:53 – 1:14:14

    Longevity and redefining a successful race: contribution over trophies

    Dr. Chatterjee challenges the idea of athletes “going on too long,” arguing it only applies if winning is the sole purpose. Kipchoge defines success as finishing well, inspiring others, and contributing to sport’s values—making longevity and legacy central.

    • Staying in sport longer deepens learning, relationships, and purpose
    • Key questions: who am I, what did I contribute, who did I inspire?
    • Success = accomplishment, mastery, and impact—beyond placement
    • Winning alone is less important than the shared journey and example
  14. 1:14:14 – 1:34:10

    Make the world a running world: healing division, belonging, parenting, and ego reduction

    Kipchoge celebrates record London Marathon participation and calls for mass movement—starting with walking—to improve health, productivity, and social cohesion. He addresses self-consciousness, fatherhood lessons, long-term coach trust, revisits his 7 life lessons, defines happiness as acceptance, and closes with practical guidance for reducing ego.

    • Start small: walk 20–30 minutes and observe changes in mind/body
    • Running can unite people and generate ideas; movement supports peace
    • The world belongs to everyone—don’t be ashamed to take space
    • Core principles: discipline, preparation, organization, positivity, teamwork, consistency, adapting to change; happiness as acceptance

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