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Pay Rent, Get Rich? Indian-American Built a $3.1B Startup From That Idea | Ankur Jain, Bilt

📌 Free Entrepreneurship Kit—step-by-step guides, email templates, and proven systems to help you start fast and scale smart - https://clickhubspot.com/955679 In this deep-dive conversation with Ankur Jain, founder of a $3.1B startup Bilt, we explore the untold truth behind building a company, solving real-world problems like housing, and how he’s hacking credit systems to help people save money and live better. Links: 📩 Follow my Newsletter: https://siliconvalleygirl.beehiiv.com/subscribe 🔗 My Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/siliconvalleygirl/ 📌 My Companies & Products: https://Marinamogilko.co 📹 Video brainstorming, research, and project planning - all in one place - https://partner.spotterstudio.com/ideas-with-marina 💻 Resources that helps my team and me grow the business: - Email & SMS Marketing Automation - https://your.omnisend.com/marina - AI app to work with docs and PFDs - https://www.chatpdf.com/?via=marina 📱Develop your YouTube with AI apps: - AI tool to edit videos in a minutes https://get.descript.com/fa2pjk0ylj0d - Boost your view and subscribers on YouTube - https://vidiq.com/marina - #1 AI video clipping tool - https://www.opus.pro/?via=7925d2 💰 Investment Apps: - Top credit cards for free flights, hotels, and cash-back - https://www.cardonomics.com/i/marina - Intuitive platform for stocks, options, and ETFs - https://a.webull.com/Tfjov8wp37ijU849f8 ⭐ Download my English language workbook - https://bit.ly/3hH7xFm Timestamps: 00:35 – How to stop flying economy using Ankur’s app (and how it actually works) 2:13 – $7,900 monthly rent – how much do you earn in rewards? 2:30 – Where can you spend your rewards 3:36 – How rewards convert to real dollars 4:08 – Why no one has done this before 5:20 – How COVID shaped his startup journey 6:18 – The ultimate entrepreneurship guide 7:18 – 2 years of hearing no 7:50 – He spent 18 months in Washington DC changing regulations from within 10:16 – Entrepreneurial mindset – prepare for everything to go wrong 11:12 – What happened to solving big problems? 12:34 – Housing crisis, mental health – why the government doesn’t fix it 13:20 – Founders don’t want to solve problems anymore 13:49 – His mindset for building a $3.1B company 15:34 – The problem with raising money in Silicon Valley 17:37 – His upbringing: his parents’ American dream 19:43 – Startup life as a kid – growing up in an innovation environment 23:35 – Why NYC beats Silicon Valley for startups 26:07 – Starting a company? 2 things you must know I use affiliate links whenever possible (if you purchase items listed above using my affiliate links, I will get a bonus). #podcast #siliconvalleygirl #AnkurJain

Marina MogilkohostAnkur Jainguest
Apr 25, 202528mWatch on YouTube ↗

CHAPTERS

  1. Turning rent into travel perks: how Bilt helps you “stop flying economy”

    Ankur explains Bilt’s core premise: rent is most people’s biggest monthly expense, yet it historically earned zero rewards. Bilt lets renters earn transferable points (airlines/hotels) and other benefits simply by paying rent, making premium travel more attainable over time.

    • Rent as an untapped spend category for rewards
    • Earn points by paying rent each month
    • Transfer points to airline/hotel loyalty programs
    • Goal: make business-class travel achievable through routine rent payments
  2. Does it work with individual landlords? Setup, payment rails, and consent

    Marina asks whether Bilt works if you rent from a person rather than a corporate building. Ankur details how users can register any home and pay rent via multiple methods, while many large properties run payments directly through Bilt for a seamless experience.

    • Works for both large apartment buildings and individual landlords
    • Users can register their home and start earning rewards
    • Multiple payment methods: check, debit, credit card, bank/ACH
    • For many buildings, Bilt runs payments natively so residents earn automatically
  3. Rewards math: estimating points from monthly rent spend

    They walk through a concrete example of how many points rent can generate. Ankur explains the basic earnings assumption (e.g., 1x points per dollar) and what that means in monthly point totals.

    • Example-based explanation of earnings from monthly rent
    • Simple earning model used for illustration (e.g., 1x per dollar)
    • Highlights how quickly points can accumulate because rent is large spend
    • Reframes rent as a long-term rewards engine
  4. Where Bilt points can be used: airlines, hotels, rent, down payments, and local perks

    Ankur outlines the flexibility of Bilt points and the ecosystem around them. Points can transfer 1:1 to major travel partners, be applied to rent, contribute toward a home down payment, or be used for everyday redemptions and neighborhood benefits.

    • 1:1 transfers to major airlines and hotel programs
    • Options to redeem toward next month’s rent
    • Ability to use points toward a home down payment (enabled via regulatory work)
    • Neighborhood and merchant perks (e.g., Lyft rides, gyms, Walgreens partnerships)
  5. How points translate to dollars: valuation depends on redemption, average value estimate

    Marina presses on how points convert into real monetary value. Ankur compares Bilt to other points ecosystems (Amex/Chase) and notes that value varies by merchant and redemption, citing an average estimated value across redemptions.

    • Point value varies depending on airline/hotel/merchant redemption
    • Similar dynamics to other rewards systems (Chase/Amex)
    • Some redemptions yield higher value than others
    • Average estimated value cited around ~2.2 cents per point
  6. Why this didn’t exist before: legacy industry inertia and the cold-start network problem

    Ankur explains the structural barriers: real estate payments are slow to change and often still check-based. Building Bilt required simultaneously onboarding property managers, rewards partners, and local merchants—each demanding the others first.

    • Real estate payments are a slow-moving, legacy system
    • Chicken-and-egg network effects across stakeholders
    • Rewards partners ask for properties; properties ask for rewards; merchants ask for local density
    • Two years of repeated pitching before traction
  7. COVID as the inflection point: stakeholders finally say yes and the flywheel starts

    The pandemic created urgent incentives for each partner group: landlords needed leasing tools, airlines sought new engagement beyond business travel, and local merchants needed at-home customers. That synchronized need triggered Bilt’s initial momentum and growth loop.

    • Property managers needed demand/leasing levers during COVID disruption
    • Airlines looked for new ways to reach younger/non-business travelers
    • Local businesses needed channels to reach customers at home
    • First commitments across groups unlocked growth flywheel
  8. Sponsor break + returning to grit: enduring “no” and iterating the rewards concept

    After a brief sponsor segment, the conversation returns to Bilt’s early struggles. Ankur describes relentless iteration—when airlines weren’t cooperating, the team explored alternative reward pathways tied to credit-building and homeownership.

    • Persistence through repeated rejection
    • Iterating the value proposition when key partners resist
    • Exploring credit-building and homeownership as “rewards”
    • Searching for a win-win that makes adoption inevitable
  9. Changing the system: reporting rent to credit bureaus and making rent history mortgage-relevant

    Ankur explains the regulatory challenge: rent payments historically didn’t help build credit or qualify borrowers despite being a major expense. Bilt spent 18 months working with agencies and housing finance institutions to make rent reporting and rental history usable in underwriting pathways.

    • Rent on-time payment as a missing credit-building mechanism
    • Need for buy-in from credit bureaus and mortgage ecosystem (Fannie/Freddie/lenders)
    • 18 months in Washington, DC to secure approvals (by Oct 2019)
    • Outcome: millions build credit via rent reporting; rental history can support mortgage qualification
  10. Entrepreneurial mindset: obsession with the problem, reframing “no,” and expecting things to break

    Marina asks where Ankur’s determination comes from. He describes focusing on the ‘why’ (the user problem), treating rejection as feedback, and expecting startup difficulty as a baseline condition rather than a surprise.

    • “No” often means you need a better explanation or a better alignment
    • Focus on solving a user problem rather than arbitrary timelines
    • Acceptance that startups are painful by nature
    • Iterate until the proposition becomes a no-brainer for partners
  11. The critique of Silicon Valley incentives: buzzwords over real problems

    Ankur argues the startup ecosystem drifted from solving major societal problems toward chasing fundable trends. He contrasts urgent issues (housing, healthcare, mental health) with hype cycles and describes his motivation to build something more meaningful.

    • Shift from mission-driven innovation to trend-driven fundraising
    • Examples of hype cycles (e.g., NFTs/crypto/metaverse/AI-as-buzzword)
    • Observation of real crises alongside flashy startup fads
    • Emphasis on returning to ‘why’ and real-world impact
  12. Fundraising reality: why venture capital can distort timelines and priorities

    Ankur explains how VC incentives can be misaligned with building the right solution, especially early. He advocates funding via trusted relationships and commercial partners until the business is proven, citing Bilt’s multi-year build before launching widely.

    • VC pressure can prioritize speed and optics over product truth
    • Preferred early capital: self-funding, trusted backers, commercial partners
    • Commercial partners align around solving shared business problems
    • Bilt timeline: started 2018, launched broadly around 2022
  13. Immigrant upbringing and early exposure to startups: learning hustle at home and at the office

    Ankur shares his parents’ American dream story and how it shaped his resilience. He describes growing up around his father’s startup, spending after-school hours in the office, and absorbing the work ethic and risk-taking firsthand.

    • Parents arrived with little and worked relentlessly
    • Story of resourcefulness (job interviews as ‘free flights’ idea)
    • Witnessing the risks of quitting stability to build a company
    • Childhood spent in startup offices: homework, meetings, and observing company-building
  14. NYC vs Silicon Valley: why diverse ecosystems matter for founders

    Ankur makes the case that New York’s cross-industry density (tech, finance, media, fashion, real estate) creates better perspective and reduces echo-chamber thinking. He argues Silicon Valley can become overly homogenous, causing founders to lose touch with mainstream customer needs.

    • NYC offers daily exposure to diverse industries and viewpoints
    • Silicon Valley’s homogeneity can distort founder reality
    • Echo-chamber effect: comparing to other startups instead of serving customers
    • Geography influences the kind of problems founders choose to solve
  15. Advice for founders in regulated, slow-moving industries: commit to the why, stay flexible on the how

    Ankur closes with guidance for entrepreneurs tackling healthcare/housing/other regulated spaces. He emphasizes accepting hardship, staying anchored to the problem, and being willing to pivot tactics while remaining unwavering on mission.

    • Expect pain as part of building category-defining companies
    • Anchor on the “why,” not a single product implementation
    • Use flexibility to pivot when a path stalls
    • “Totally committed, yet completely willing to change” as an operating principle

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