Simon SinekThe Power of Doing One Thing Exceptionally Well with Gymshark CEO Ben Francis | A Bit of Optimism
EVERY SPOKEN WORD
70 min read · 14,151 words- SSSimon Sinek
I don't think I'm your core Gymshark customer.
- BFBen Francis
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
- SSSimon Sinek
But I'm absolutely in love with your company-
- BFBen Francis
Mm
- SSSimon Sinek
... because I preach these models of infinite mindedness-
- BFBen Francis
Mm
- SSSimon Sinek
... and that committing to something bigger than yourself and ensuring that it can outlast you in its current form-
- BFBen Francis
Mm
- SSSimon Sinek
... is very rare.
- BFBen Francis
I think, you know, getting a bit older, we've got three kids now. Everyone wants to be a cool dad, right? And I think there's nothing cooler than building something that really stands the test of time.
- SSSimon Sinek
I am an idealist. The things that I write about, the things that I speak about are about an ideal version of the way the world and business could work. But every now and then, every now and then, I get to meet a company that, well, it's hard for me to be accused of being a crazy idealist if what I imagine exists in reality. People are always asking me what businesses really exemplify the things that I write about. Well, one of them is Gymshark. Gymshark makes one thing for one audience. They make amazing gym wear for people who go to the gym. "We do gym," as they say. And Ben Francis is one of the most remarkable young leaders I've ever met. He's the founder and CEO of Gymshark, and he's only 33 years old, and in 13 years he has built an iconic global brand. And how has he done it? By keeping it absolutely pure and wanting to build a company that can outlast him, in fact, one that can last 100 years. And given how so many young entrepreneurs start their businesses and try to build their businesses, waiting for the IPO, waiting for the exit, trying to have a liquidity event, Ben is the complete opposite. He is driven by the purest form of entrepreneurship, to make great products for one community as best as he can, and the result is profound. This is A Bit of Optimism. I think you know this, I'm a huge fan of yours. Um, we've only met once before.
- BFBen Francis
Mm-hmm.
- SSSimon Sinek
Um, I knew about you and I knew about Gymshark, and it was... I- we met last year for the first time just 'cause I wanted to, to meet you. You are what is, I think, the purest form of what an entrepreneur is-
- BFBen Francis
Mm
- SSSimon Sinek
... and entrepreneur should be.
- BFBen Francis
Thank you.
- SSSimon Sinek
Uh, and you've built a company that has that same purity. Gymshark was born in a gym.
- BFBen Francis
Mm-hmm.
- SSSimon Sinek
You made the product yourself-
- BFBen Francis
Mm-hmm
- SSSimon Sinek
... which is, like, this quintessential entrepreneurial story.
- BFBen Francis
Mm.
- SSSimon Sinek
Other people wanted the stuff that you were making for yourself.
- BFBen Francis
Mm-hmm.
- SSSimon Sinek
And before you know it, you're selling more than you can sew yourself.
- BFBen Francis
Mm-hmm.
- SSSimon Sinek
And thus is born Gymshark.
- BFBen Francis
Yeah.
- SSSimon Sinek
How are you able to maintain sort of, if we use the word purity-
- BFBen Francis
Mm
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